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So, I want to join the super heavy club so during my gaming clubs next apocalypse match I wont be the only person without a super heavy model.. xD But.. I cant decide what to get.. I kind of dont want a regular GW Knight since so many people in the club has those.. But should I pick a Baneblade variant? Or a Forge World super heavy..? What ones are good and fun, And what ones are not worth it..?

Knights are solid all rounders, decent firepower, hth potential, speed and fairly tough.
IG tanks depend on what you will face/what you want to do.
Something like the Shadowswoard is a titan killer but with basically one shot, if it misses, you're in trouble.
I've personally found IG tank superheavies to be a bit static and VS superheavy walkers suboptimal.
Other variants fullfil more sprcific roles, mass troop killers, all rounders or horde killers.

What will you be facing in the club? Mainly knights?

If you have the cash obviously FW purchases are very good - Nid Heirophant, Eldar Revenant, Warhound, Harridan.

Well, I dont want eldar or tyranid units for my imperial guard army.

As to what I face.. Lets see.. We have a Ultramarine player who has a Fellblade, Who also plays Eldar and has a Wraith Knight, We have a Ork player with a Stompa and a Gargantuan Squiggoth, A Necron player with a Obelisk, A Imperial Guard player with a Baneblade and a Knight, A Chaos player with a Chaos Knight.. Umm... Thats all I can think of right now..

I would side with a Knight so.
VS so many other walkers I still feel a tank will get out manouvered and ultimately caught in hth. Poof.
Your knight should hold its own VS the other walkers except maybe the Stompa who has double the HPs and can equal your attacks (with the right build).

Can you afford a Warhound?

Umm... I would love a Warhound Titan but.. I think they are a tad bit too expensive.. I'd have to save for a few years to afford half of it.. xD

There are lots of good manuals out there about how to scratch build a lucius patten warhound out there, young magos.

Go big or you're a heretic. Get a Warlord and hide your Infantry platoons inside it .
In all seriousness though, I enjoy my stormlord you possibly glance av12 to death with the Vulcan mega bolter but if not you can load it up with HWT for extra dakka. If you take aim at infantry, you're deleting a squad of marines a round I promise you.

BANEBLADE!

I'm starting to lean towards getting a Stormlord.. The Vulcan Mega Bolter seems nice, As does being able to fire twice in one turn if it stands still..

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If you get the Baneblade kit you can magnetize it so you can use it as every variant.

Get a Baneblade and magnetize it. Knights are better, but Baneblades are fluffy and fairly well balanced (even underpowered in a few cases.) Shadowsword is my favorite variant.

Go all out and get the Malcador Defender. Not only is it the coolest tank around when you consider it's looks it also has the mighty demolition cannon, sponson mounted Auto Cannon or Las Cannon and 5 Heavy Bolters... all of which can fire at multiple it's own targets! You can even add a heavy stubber to it's already impressive fire power.

It may not be downing enemy titans, but it certainly will support the little stuff.

Or you can buy a reaver titan, give it a power fist and punch enemy titans to death.

Crassus Armored Assault Transport.

It can carry 30 models, and two units(!) can embark/disembark a turn.

Macharius Vulcan gets my vote as coolest looking IG super heavy and its rules went half bad either.

Merellin wrote:
So, I want to join the super heavy club so during my gaming clubs next apocalypse match I wont be the only person without a super heavy model.. xD But.. I cant decide what to get.. I kind of dont want a regular GW Knight since so many people in the club has those.. But should I pick a Baneblade variant? Or a Forge World super heavy..? What ones are good and fun, And what ones are not worth it..?

My recommendation is to have a look at the questoris knight Magaera. it's the cheapest FW knight at £110, similar points and have fancy rules.
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/resources/fw_site/fw_pdfs/Warhammer_40000/Questoris_Knight_Magaera.pdf
you'll also have a bunch of spare bits left over that make for great terrain or objective markers!
edit:just realized you have to have another knight to take one of these - ooops!

I did see this thing while looking for 40k compliant rules for the questoris knight styrix...
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/resources/fw_site/fw_pdfs/Warhammer_40000/Imperial_Guard_Stormblade.pdf

 SirDonlad wrote:

Merellin wrote:
So, I want to join the super heavy club so during my gaming clubs next apocalypse match I wont be the only person without a super heavy model.. xD But.. I cant decide what to get.. I kind of dont want a regular GW Knight since so many people in the club has those.. But should I pick a Baneblade variant? Or a Forge World super heavy..? What ones are good and fun, And what ones are not worth it..?

My recommendation is to have a look at the questoris knight Magaera. it's the cheapest FW knight at £110, similar points and have fancy rules.
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/resources/fw_site/fw_pdfs/Warhammer_40000/Questoris_Knight_Magaera.pdf
you'll also have a bunch of spare bits left over that make for great terrain or objective markers!
edit:just realized you have to have another knight to take one of these - ooops!

I did see this thing while looking for 40k compliant rules for the questoris knight styrix...
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/resources/fw_site/fw_pdfs/Warhammer_40000/Imperial_Guard_Stormblade.pdf

You don't need another knight to run it as a LOW in a guard army. It says you can use it as one for any imperial faction.

The Shadowsword is not....reliable, because you're only delivering a single destroyer hit. But every so often it'll pull off a '6' on the destroyer table and you'll be laughing like a drain.

The fear that gun generates in a super-heavy rich environment is worth it by itself. The absolute best I've ever seen one do is to one-shot an adamantine lance formation*.
The guard player was as shocked as the knight player!

In a tactical sense, I would suggest the best guard superheavy is probably the Hellhammer. A S10 AP1 blast with Ignores Cover is a terrifying thing to face, and can blow away tanks as easily as jinking bikes or infantry in cover.



* Lead knight took a '6' and exploded, scattering onto knight #2. Knight #2 took a destroyer hit, which was also a '6', and clipped knight #3 with its own explosion. With only one knight left, it no longer got its Blade & Shield rerolls for its Ion shield and one bad explodes result later took enough damage to kill it too....

 Kanluwen wrote:
Crassus Armored Assault Transport.

It can carry 30 models, and two units(!) can embark/disembark a turn.

You spelled it wrong! It's CRASSUS ARMOURED ASSAULT TRANSPORT.

I love my Shadowsword:


The Volcano cannon makes short work of any vehicle you can imagine, and you can counter superheavies with it as well. A lot of superheavies can kill swathes of infantry, but frankly I've got the rest of the army for that!

I chose the Helhammer.

It never, ever, works on the TT, but I'm very happy with it.

Stormlord. Fill it up with HWT and watch it rape everything except superheavies. You could also use it to pack some nasty surprises for any walkers that get the idea of assaulting you.
The FW Stormblade is great as well.

 Iron_Captain wrote:
Stormlord. Fill it up with HWT and watch it rape everything except superheavies. You could also use it to pack some nasty surprises for any walkers that get the idea of assaulting you.
The FW Stormblade is great as well.

I'd always wondered why anyone would ever take a stormlord beyond fluff reasons, but that little mechanic is a hidden gem!

Also apparently Techpriests/Ally Techmarines can be a handy cargo for the Stormlord. The guy who introduced me to 40k told me about that.

The Shadowsord is epic and even if it does not do much it will still take an awful lot of firepower away from your other units. It is the same with the Stormhammer - in a game I had my opponents destroyed the maingun on the first turn before it had even fired and I failed to repair it throughout the game. The two of them still spent almost every AT weapon they had trying to kill it, ignoring the other fully functional tanks around it for the most part.

Just played a game against a Stormblade and it killed more than its point cost and didn't die. I am terrified of the damn thing.

Massive range, Plasma massive deadly blast or three large blasts and some useful gubbins: lascannons and anti-infantry weapons.

 Otto Weston wrote:
Just played a game against a Stormblade and it killed more than its point cost and didn't die. I am terrified of the damn thing.

Massive range, Plasma massive deadly blast or three large blasts and some useful gubbins: lascannons and anti-infantry weapons.

I really like units that have more than one firing mode and let you tailor their use a bit. The Praetor is the same concept, it's got an AA, an AP, and an AT loadout you choose at the start of the game. Considering how goofy 40k lists can be, it's nice to have a little flexibility.

It doesn't hurt that both the Stormblade and Praetor look awesome.

A Baneblade variant.

its the right thing to do.

 Desubot wrote:
A Baneblade variant.

its the right thing to do.

QFT

I got a preator for my guard and love it. Massive amounts of missile killy death, you get go choose missile type at the start of the game so its always effective. Plus when you close the missile pod it looks the same as a crassus assault transport.