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**loner**

Deadshot wrote:There is a maximum of 5 of one type of unit. So I think we are looking at 50 Guardsman.

Are they joined or not?

Points need too.

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BTW

Good to have you back Dedrith!

In that case:
50 guardsmen + their dedicated transports.
525 points.

**im2randomghgh**

p_gray99 wrote:
loner wrote:Tidal wave of guardsmen!
24 infantry squads.

Really? 'cos I've got 4 S5 shots each that ignore your armour, so can take you down in a few turns of shooting.
Anyway, 5 kabalite warriors with blaster in a venom with extra splinter cannon, 125pts. You can't hurt me!

Centurion Shas'el, two shield drones-130(?)

**p_gray99**

Deadshot wrote:There is a maximum of 5 of one type of unit. So I think we are looking at 50 Guardsman.

You can have 5 Infantry squads per troops choice, so it's sort of legal. Anyway, I beat them easily.

**BlapBlapBlap**

BLOOD ANGELS Land Raider Crusader with Multi Melta and Extra Armour. Note that Blood Angels allow Land Raiders to DEEP STRIKE onto you. 275pts

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Land Raiders are also Deicated Transports. Would I be allowed to cram my Death Company in there or is this overkill?

10 Death Company with 2 Hand Flamers, 2 Power Weapons and a Powerfist. Totals at 650pts including LR, if allowed. Otherwise excuse this post.

**Deadshot**

3 Squads of 3 Zopanthropes, 1 squads of 2-660

**p_gray99**

Are they very good with anti-horde? 3x 30 orks with nob with power klaw: 645?

**Zweischneid**

p_gray99 wrote:Are they very good with anti-horde? 3x 30 orks with nob with power klaw: 645?

3x Eldar Nightspinner with all available upgrades - 615

**p_gray99**

Zweischneid wrote:
p_gray99 wrote:Are they very good with anti-horde? 3x 30 orks with nob with power klaw: 645?

3x Eldar Nightspinner with all available upgrades - 615

Are they any good with anti-tank? I can predict a loop coming from this, but 5 dark eldar Ravagers, flickerfields: 575pts.

**Deadshot**

4*2 Hydra Squadrons-600

**p_gray99**

Nice. Then again, very difficult to beat. You need 6s to hurt hammerheads' front armour, 13? then 3 Hammerheads, railguns, burst cannons, multi-trackers, disruption pods. 495pts.

**im2randomghgh**

p_gray99 wrote:Are they very good with anti-horde? 3x 30 orks with nob with power klaw: 645?

9x XV9s-675

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Oops that was late.

p_gray99 wrote:Nice. Then again, very difficult to beat. You need 6s to hurt hammerheads' front armour, 13? then 3 Hammerheads, railguns, burst cannons, multi-trackers, disruption pods. 495pts.

But can it beat 3x3 Broadsides?

630

**p_gray99**

Yeah, but the broadsides get boring. Are ork bikers 25pts? I think so. Anyway, 24 of them in 5 units, one with a nob with power klaw: 630

**Zweischneid**

Original post.

Dedrith wrote:In memory of Kogwar's very successful thread, I have been given permission to recreate it.

How to play: Post a unit to beat the last unit posted, this unit should follow the rules of Warhammer 40k and it has to be somewhat close to the point cost of the previous unit posted, preferably less.

The Rules:
-No orbital Strikes
-No Apocalypse units.
-Units can compose of 1-5 squads of the same unit, no more.
-try your best to keep the point value of your units under 1500; with no Apocalypse, this shouldn't be a problem.
-You must post the point value along with a unit.
-I may reset the unit if things get out of hand.
-Units may be taken with their Deticated Transports, with the exception of Land Raiders (land raiders may still be used, just not with another unit)
-Guardsman Marbo may no longer be posted, he's great I know, but he's coming up too often.

THERE IS NO RULE REGARDING VEHICLE ARMOR RATING

I'll start.

10 Man Tactical Squad with Meltagun and Missile Launcher - 180

**im2randomghgh**

Zweischneid wrote:Original post.

Dedrith wrote:In memory of Kogwar's very successful thread, I have been given permission to recreate it.

How to play: Post a unit to beat the last unit posted, this unit should follow the rules of Warhammer 40k and it has to be somewhat close to the point cost of the previous unit posted, preferably less.

The Rules:
-No orbital Strikes
-No Apocalypse units.
-Units can compose of 1-5 squads of the same unit, no more.
-try your best to keep the point value of your units under 1500; with no Apocalypse, this shouldn't be a problem.
-You must post the point value along with a unit.
-I may reset the unit if things get out of hand.
-Units may be taken with their Deticated Transports, with the exception of Land Raiders (land raiders may still be used, just not with another unit)
-Guardsman Marbo may no longer be posted, he's great I know, but he's coming up too often.

THERE IS NO RULE REGARDING VEHICLE ARMOR RATING

I'll start.

10 Man Tactical Squad with Meltagun and Missile Launcher - 180

And?

We can go in random circles with broadsides and land raider and then have this thread locked, if you'd like.

**Zweischneid**

No problem with a bit of creativity in picking units.

But the requirement is only ever to beat the last unit posted. Only the last unit posted. That's what creates some fun answers. Not if it is more broadly set to deal with anti-tank, anti-horde, range, cc, etc...

**BlapBlapBlap**

Alrigthy then. 2X 10 Vanguard Veterans with Jump Packs. Power fist and Meltabomb serg in 1 squad, 2 PW in the other. 700 points.

**Tyranic Marta**

2 noise marines squads at ten man with 9 sonic blasters and a blastmaster each.
570

**im2randomghgh**

Tyranic Marta wrote:2 noise marines squads at ten man with 9 sonic blasters and a blastmaster each.
570

XV9 squad with Fusion Cascades and TA-315

XV9 squad with Phased Ion Guns and TA-315

**loner**

im2randomghgh wrote:We can go in random circles with broadsides and land raider and then have this thread locked, if you'd like.

If I may be so rude, who is to blame for it that we go in loops? The one that posted an entry or the one that posts entry's with Landraiders/other-loop-like-thingy.
You post it so you can also decide what you want to put against it.
You can decide what you want to post. The only restriction is what you come up with,

If there's a unit posted then you can decide what you post against it. If you post an Ork against it, then feel free to. If you want to put a Landraider against it, then why not?

XV88 and XV9 are also mentioned a lot, (especially Tau players), why not ban them?

It used to be a lot of fun, untill a couple of guys came and decided to make up new rules or people start debating if the posted unit would really beat them.

But in the end, it's just another thread on the forum after all.
Loner

On topic:

Platoon command: 35
vox

Infantry squad: 110
GL, AC, commissar
IS: 70
GL, AC, vox
IS: 65
GL, AC
IS: 65
GL, AC

A total of 315 points.

**Deadshot**

5 Paladins with Swords, 1 Psycannon, Psybolt ammo-315

**xxmatt85**

Plain old Leman Russ.

**Tyranic Marta**

Ninja'd
Hammerhead tank.... with.... wait for it.... Ion cannon

**Deadshot**

How much, for both?

**prime12357**

Something like 150ish for the tanks, so I'll venture a Legion of the damned squad with a multimelta, meltagun, and combi melta, 215 points. Come to think of it, they should also hold up pretty well against the paladins...

**Dedrith**

loner wrote:
XV88 and XV9 are also mentioned a lot, (especially Tau players), why not ban them?

This.

From what I'm reading, broadsides seem to be as much a problem as heavy armored vehicles, if not more so. There's a handful of ways to deal with vehicles, get creative with it!

I don't want to ban either of them, but I do want to make sure people know that they shouldn't be a first choice.

Dedrith wrote:In memory of Kogwar's very successful thread, I have been given permission to recreate it.

How to play: Post a unit to beat the last unit posted, this unit should follow the rules of Warhammer 40k and it has to be somewhat close to the point cost of the previous unit posted, preferably less.

The Rules:
-No orbital Strikes
-No Apocalypse units.
-Units can compose of 1-5 squads of the same unit, no more.
-try your best to keep the point value of your units under 1500; with no Apocalypse, this shouldn't be a problem.
-You must post the point value along with a unit.
-I may reset the unit if things get out of hand.
-Units may be taken with their Deticated Transports, with the exception of Land Raiders (land raiders may still be used, just not with another unit)
-Guardsman Marbo may no longer be posted, he's great I know, but he's coming up too often.

-Tau Broadsides and Space Marine Land Raiders are not banned, but highly discouraged.

There is no rule regarding vehicle armor rating.

**Tyranic Marta**

ahh no apocaplypse, thus xv 9's are out

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20 bloodletters, 360 points

**forruner_mercy**

prime12357 wrote:Something like 150ish for the tanks, so I'll venture a Legion of the damned squad with a multimelta, meltagun, and combi melta, 215 points. Come to think of it, they should also hold up pretty well against the paladins...

5 Incubi, Klaivex, Demiklaives, Murderous Onslaught
-155 points

**MrMerlin**

2 units of storm troopers

**Tyranic Marta**

Three squads of 5 chaos space marines with rhino's and havok launchers on the rhinos. 375

**forruner_mercy**

Voidraven bomber with implosion missiles
-265 points