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I have some major issues with the new DA Codex and I think GW should just have let a few people proof read it before releasing it to us.
I know other Codexes are having there issues as well and even the Rulebook does, but the DA Codex jsut tops it all.

The first and most obvious thing is the Ravenwing Strike Force:
Most of you know it already, but for those who don't:

The RSF allows you to take 3 HQs as long as they have the "Ravenwing" special rule. Unfortunately, there is only 1 HQ that does - Sammael.
While you can mount almost anything on a bike, none of these are actually allowed in the Ravenwing Strike Force, making 2 HQ slots unusable.
Some People argue, that HQs on Bikes should automatically get the ravenwing rule, others change the RSF so you can pick HQs as long as they are equipped with a bike and again others play it RAW.

IMHO: Just a very bad job GW did here and without an FAQ/Errata this discussion will stay topic whenether the RSF is brought.

Second: The Deathwing Redemption Force
While it is perfectly possible to play a RSF on it's own, the DSF is on itself not a choice.
Without Deep Strike Turn 1 you automatically lose the game. Even with drop pods you lose since you dont use their rules as normal.
Worst of all: No Land Raider allowed - all units HAVE to enter in Deep Srike Reserve.
In addition you cannot use some of the most Unique Deathwing HQs like Ezekiel. No Terminator Armor - no Deep Strike. Oh boy....

Third: The Deathwing Strike Force
Basicly same issues as above, except you can now use drop pods to get some units onto the field. But it becomes even weirder.

Under "Restrictions" it does not say that you must place anything in Deep Strike and therefore might argue, that you can in fact place stuff on the bord. You even might use Deathwing Models that can not Deep Strike like Asmodai or Ezekiel.
BUT: it's a "Command Benefit" that you must place everything in Deep Strike.
Now you can pick whatever HQ you want as long as it has the Deathwing Rule - except for anything that can not Deep Strike... oh man....
And again no Land Raiders.

So basicly both Deathwing Formations forbid the use of Land Raiders and rely heavily on VenDreads in Pods surviving first turn.

I'm starting to believe the only things GW does well is customer service and forging the narrative.

People house-rule as they see fit, I suggest following the same pattern.

Overall the codex is miles better than previous attempts but yes a little extra proof reading wouldn’t have hurt. Reading through the codex it is obvious that they did put a lot of thought into it but there is also a feeling that it was somewhat rushed by the end. Personally I think this is a case of somebody on the team attempting some last minute changes and edits just before it was due to go to print and not realising that their new proposed rules contradicted what was already there.

The DWSF's wording seems to suggest that you just indiscriminately stuff everything in the detachment into Deep Strike Reserve whether they could Deep Strike or not. I've honestly seen it argued both ways.
Which could be seen as being even worse. Not to mention that leaving something so foggy when it's gonna cause real problems is just a huge mistake.
And of course no real solution to the "lose turn 1" issue besides spamming Dreads like crazy.
Certainly encouraging me to concoct a house-ruled version, which I might post up in Proposed Rules sometime soon.

The Ravenwing HQ Problem is just inexcusable, made worse by some as mentioned still pushing to play it RAW instead of even trying to fix it...

Certainly could've really used more proofreading. Even outside that, for all that's gained there's still some things lost that really shouldn't have been (the "X as Troops" stuff, Banner of Devastation and so on).

You do the proofreading when you care about the product and, by extension, about your clients.

When a company does not care, you get products like the latest DA codex.

To a certain degree, I understand GW's point of view: people keep buying them anyway, so why bother.

 Korinov wrote:
You do the proofreading when you care about the product and, by extension, about your clients.

Also, when you have time and resources. Given the breakneck speed of new codex releases, it's not that surprising a few balls got dropped along the way.

Yoyoyo wrote:

 Korinov wrote:
You do the proofreading when you care about the product and, by extension, about your clients.

Also, when you have time and resources. Given the breakneck speed of new codex releases, it's not that surprising a few balls got dropped along the way.

The speed in which they are published has no bearing on their development time. Some of those releases (Harlies, Ad Mech, Knights etc.) could have been sat on for months or even years.

What's more, even with the time constraints, they still had plenty of time to sort out the blatant BS.

 Grimtuff wrote:
The speed in which they are published has no bearing on their development time.

That ain't free though.

And they had the time to check it beforehand, too.

Yoyoyo wrote:

 Korinov wrote:
You do the proofreading when you care about the product and, by extension, about your clients.

Also, when you have time and resources. Given the breakneck speed of new codex releases, it's not that surprising a few balls got dropped along the way.

That's not really an excuse when they have control over the release schedule. It still boils down to them not caring about the product, because if they did care and a fast release schedule was resulting in a lower quality product, they would slow the schedule down.

IMHO there is no other explanation than a rushed product / too tight deadlines.
But for the money they are taking for a small book the amount of mistakes is outrageous.
At least they should add an errata as soon as possible.
The fact that they are not shows, that they are satisfied with selling the copies and don't care about what's next.

GW have zero interest towards writing FAQs or erratas, there's no revenue in those. I honestly think they'll never release either of those again and I'm pretty much fine with it. Other people are so much better at fixing the rules for this game so the process is best left to actual professionals, those guys running the biggest tournaments.

The whole game would become a lot better if GW stopped pretending every now and then that they care at all about the rules and would just focus on making miniatures.

I have come to the conclusion that GW just doesn't edit anything that says Codex: Dark Angels on it. The last two DA Codex have had similar problems. Inconsistent wargear options on the same unit entries, lack of rules on referenced wargear, and if you were lucky enough to get the digital version, your HQ section was filled with a page about Vampire Lords from the Vampire Counts army book.

It's just very frustrating, especially when you are a huge fan of Dark Angels and you pay $100+ for the Limited Edition codex- and it's full of mistakes. Editing mistakes that took all of 10 minutes of casual reading to spot when the codex dropped.

You forgot one other issue:
RWSF with flyers. You could argue that you have to put everything in reserve once you include ANY flyer... Yet another instant loss if you decide to do something impossible like.. dunno, use one of the fliers in the codex.

^"Deploy as normal" would mean putting the fliers in Reserve and everything else on the table, but I do get the point that it should've been made a lot clearer.

Yeah until GW FAQs deathwing strike force to let use deploy at turn 1 I won't be buying the new DA codex. I've got a Deathwing terminator, landraider and dreadnaught army, I don't like raven wing or land speeders so I am out of luck for now :( oh well

They'll release a new DA codex before any FAQs so don't hold your breath while waiting.

Remember that in the GK digital enhanced edition codex, the universe map, when expanded, has a GIANT pink page that says "REPLACE ME".
That is then replaced by half of the universe map that you were trying to expand, which is completely unmovable and you cannot zoom in or out.

GW editors and QA must be on holiday. Forever.

 Mantorok wrote:

GW editors and QA must have been cut out for more profit.

FTFY. It would be just like GW to go "Why do other companies pay for proofreaders? We have all the proof we need! SAVE MONEY!"