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Guys,I have paid for the shipping during the KS but now I am not sure if it's in included in the store credit or not? That is should I add less minis so that the credit can also cover shipping if I got for drop locations?

Nevermind - seems I figured it out. 20$ less :(

Just finished.

In addition to the freebies, picked up:

Cruz, Heavy Gunner
Mimi the Radio
Aleksandr Kurganov*
Shashenka
Ivanka Kurganova
Dr. Von X
Lady Sigrith*
Arthemisia Rosenkrantz
Vera Krabbenhoft
The Lulus
Jailbird Command Group x4
KST Command Group x5
KST Artillery 3 x2
Jailbird Artillery 3
Jailbird Snipers
One Shot Blondie x2*
Yoko x2
Jailbirds Motorbike 2*
Tania Tanker

*Not for me, but for one or more amigos.

$408, including shipping. Not a terrible day's work.

Just finished up my pledge. I ended up with $0.10 in credit remaining.
I won't bother posting my list or saying how much it was. Suffice to say, it was more than enough to run a full IG army. I have faith I'll get it all eventually, and I already have ludicrous amounts of stuff to keep my hobby time filled until then.

I did kinda wonder why they didn't just use the Skykadia pledge manager, spruce up the images/design a bit to make it look more like their preferred aesthetic, and go with that.

Because of pride.

Because vive la France you American Swine Dog.

I cannot wait to blast La Marseillaise when my mini arrives.

 BrookM wrote:
I cannot wait to blast La Marseillaise when my mini arrives.

I cannot wait! La Marseillaise will accompany my facteur up the street.....

(Twitter weaned)Children of the Nation,
The day of glory has arrived.....

Well, I'm not sure it's so much a case of pride as a desire to control everything. Though, in this case, it's sort of worked. Whilst it's not the smoothest online shop out there it does the job. Most of the issues are down to their implementation and the extra shipping options offered.

As for more renders, there's a reason why we've not seen any more since the pledge manager went live, they've not finished any. Spoke with Jinx last night, who was more forthcoming than Harry.

You : Evening. Any advance on more renders?
Jinx : we are working on it
Jinx : it's nearly midnight here and we are still working
Jinx : we'll be at it all weekend
You : how do I know you're not a cunning chat bot? :p
Jinx : ahahah of course I am, I've been programmed by the evil minds of the Iron Empire!
You : So, Monday for the renders then?
Jinx : I hope so ! One of our lead sculptors's sister is just about to give birth. If it happens this weekend, we might need to push it back a little. In that case, we'll also push the closing date of the PM by one or two more days.
Jinx : bt everyting is well on the way
You : Given the time sensitive nature of the renders, would it not be an idea to put up what you've finished so far? Then add any more in a day or two
Jinx : it may be one option. But as much as it seems hard to believe, the finalisation process / rendering of the sculpts is such that most of the time, all renders ends up ready at the same time, give or take a few hours.
You : So, none of them are actually done and ready to post right now?
Jinx : ahah, I see what you are up to ! don't forget that I have alien super powers!
Jinx : No in fact, none are ready now, everything is in the pipeline and in the finalisation process. But don't worry, everything will be fine
You : Well, if it was just a case of ending up going on the concepts I'd not be so worried. However, there's been a few sculpts that I've preferred based on the extra parts, which we hadn't seen before. Similarly, there's the extras in the troop boxes that we didn't see concepts for so renders would be nice.
Jinx : The extras in the troop boxes will definitely be shown before the PM closes.
Jinx : That is, the extra weapons.
Jinx : For the rest, as I said, we're doing all we can.
You : Well, there's not much else we can do as backers but wait then.
You : And now, I must go.

Oh boy, tomorrow? Let's reset the clocks for a fresh helping of disappointment once more!

One has to wonder if they realize the liter of piss we're all taking in conversation with them at this point.

It could be due to the language barrier that a lot isn't picked up on.

Well, at this point, it's either renders on Monday or a delay to everything if they push the deadline for the pledge manager again.

Mais non! Delays cannot happen, you heard them say it!

Gee Brook, that last one drips so delicously of sarcasm...
....wait
.... now I picked up enough.
Will fill it into a flacon and sell it as "Eau d'TGG - a delicious passion"

 Tannhauser42 wrote:
Just finished up my pledge. I ended up with $0.10 in credit remaining.
I won't bother posting my list or saying how much it was. Suffice to say, it was more than enough to run a full IG army.

It's only now, as this project winds down, that I begin to wonder what the feth I am going to do with all these minis.

Bury yourself in them?

New renders tomorrow?
A full day after their original deadline? How convinient!

That's what was said, unless the sculptor's sister drops the sprog. Though I'm not sure why that would have much of an impact, unless there's a whole Lannister thing going on behind the scenes.

 Ouze wrote:

 Tannhauser42 wrote:
Just finished up my pledge. I ended up with $0.10 in credit remaining.
I won't bother posting my list or saying how much it was. Suffice to say, it was more than enough to run a full IG army.

It's only now, as this project winds down, that I begin to wonder what the feth I am going to do with all these minis.

Don't worry about that, you'll never get them, remember...

Hello Jan,

Your constant nagging and complaining on the Comments thread is very tiresome. Same thing on the Live Chat.
There is nothing that I can say that will meet your needs. The questions in your latest message have been answered extensively throughout the many updates that we have posted, including the latest one.

I am sorry that you do not have any hope with us.
I am sorry that you do not believe anything we say.
I am sorry that you are so disappointed in this project.

The very large majority of backers are very happy with what we are doing. I realize that we cannot please everyone and obviously, there is nothing we can do to please you.

We will nevertheless continue to soldier on without your wholehearted support, and we will be happy to send you your rewards selection when it becomes available.

Best regards,
Mireille
Raging Heroes Team








Finally. This is what I wrote them
Dear Loud'n Raging,

I'll make this a short one.
5 days until you close the PM.

You promised us several times that we will get more renders. Well, you promised us to not be forced to decide on artwork... but I guess what you said is not really set in stone.

5 days left. 0 pictures added.

It's getting to the point that I have lost all hope for your company to ever again recceive money from me. Your constant breaking of promises is stunningly bad. Your lack of communication and almost zero interest in answering questions is nothing but a great way to shun away costumers.

I do not have any hopes to recceive my miniatures before the end of 2015. I honestly do not. You might be able to send out Wave 1 "soon", but wave 2 and 3? Almost nothing has been shown and it's been almost a full year since you claimed (you did that!) all of your miniatures are 80% ready.
80%. That is what you said.

I don't want to hear any excuses. Be plain and simple. If you fell behind in your shedule, tell us. Don't run around and ignore our questions.

Sincerely

Jan.goldbeck

I think you overestimated the weight customers carry in their minds. Backers are just a smidge underneath, since we already gave our money.

The kernel of "can't please everyone, and thus anyone" is a great water cooler truism that you don't actually tell customers

 Mathieu Raymond wrote:
I think you overestimated the weight customers carry in their minds. Backers are just a smidge underneath, since we already gave our money.

The kernel of "can't please everyone, and thus anyone" is a great water cooler truism that you don't actually tell customers

You don't think there comes a point with a customer where you just have to be like, "Look, you obviously just want to be pissed. That's fine, just do it somewhere else."

I mean, I'm all for supportive, helpful customer service. But there's got to be a limit, eventually.

I forget - did they actually say that the Pledge Manager would absolutely have all renders at a minimum, and no choices would be locked in until then?

Is so, well...

 Alpharius wrote:
I forget - did they actually say that the Pledge Manager would absolutely have all renders at a minimum, and no choices would be locked in until then?

Is so, well...

Check out my handy-dandy quick summary.

The most important pull quote is "Just want you to know that your choices will NOT be locked-in. You will make your final choices once the sculpts are finalised. As mentioned earlier, we never want our pledgers and future customers unhappy with our minis. "

Beyond the single quote which they are now venturing perilously close to being in explicit violation of, there is something else, something that links in with what Mathieu points out: it's very clear that RH hasn't the slightest regard for feedback that isn't "wow that's great!"

Remember when I pointed out that some of the Heavy troopers had silly huge shoulder pads, and the answer was that a) they had forcefield generators in the shoulders and b) that they acted like American football players, shouldering people aside like linebackers. Good times, good times.

Note also that their constant refrain has been "Compared to most other companies, our sculpts are very very very close to the concepts." Which at the same time is partnered with "most of the time, they actually often find the actual casts BETTER than what they had anticipated from the final 3D renders!"

So you see, sculpts will follow renders, except when they are made better!*

*If you don't think it's better, well... screw you buddy.

They did in the KS comments.

If you think an offhand comment holds the same weight as an actual update, then I guess so.

 Alpharius wrote:
I forget - did they actually say that the Pledge Manager would absolutely have all renders at a minimum, and no choices would be locked in until then?

Yep. That got said. I wish it had gotten done, but I don't know what I could do about it now. (Other than pull my pledge, maybe? But it hardly seems like a big enough deal to be a deal-breaker at this point.)

Well finished my pledge, 2030 here we come.

Disappointment is big from their behavior so far, I wonder if they will get the same from their next kickstarters,

Well, I think that message was a little more customer focused than the one I received. (will post it up later) though there's a number of things that you just don't say to a customer.

As for the part about not being locked in until we'd seen renders for all, it's something to strive for but not something I'm expecting at this stage. I mean, they forgot about a shipping method that they offered during the campaign until they were reminded. That was offered in an actual update as well, which is likely why the comms guy was collating them.