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Could it be they don't want the stuff shown off until it's painted?

That's weird. My flgs has had the iob set for about a week, and most of it's painted up.

BrassScorpion wrote:The new Minotaurs on close inspection are great looking models and large too.

I disagree. I find them to be among the worst plastics GW has ever done. Almost as much of a travesty as the plastic daemonettes, although at least it can be said that the minotaurs are maintaining a consistent level of suck from the previous metal models, as opposed to replacing and making unavailible something that was truly great.

To keep this on topic, the Rat Ogres thankfully show none of the problems that the minotaurs do. The ROgres may be hideous mutated monstrosities, but at least their muscles sit in such a way that they could believably produce movement. They look more like real muscles, rather than inflated air bladders that have been taped to the skin. Their heads resemble rat heads, as opposed to just being a giant muscly block for no reason (muscle-bulge noses, WT ). I can understand if someone doesn't like the design choices for the ROgres, but at least their designer demonstrated some basic attempt at believable anatomy.

Aduro wrote:The FLGS is getting their demo copy in today, but were told by their rep that they are totally forbidden from showing it to anyone until next week. I just find that completely amusing given we've already seen EVERYTHING in it. Although I'm surprised they've got the white templates in it. Doesn't the 40k starter come with the better green ones?

Yeah, but they also have all kinds of futuristic detailing on them. Besides, who would buy those gold-painted plastic templates if the ones included in the starter set weren't lousy?

I figured the starter would come with the gold painted templates, like how the 40k one comes with the green templates even though those are sold separately as well.

Aduro wrote:I figured the starter would come with the gold painted templates, like how the 40k one comes with the green templates even though those are sold separately as well.

I'd have hoped for translucent yellow, myself.

Well I have the red ones from the last gamers ed so I will give away the cheepies.

With regard to the LFGS not painting them up
people have already posted here about going and seeing them being painted up.
And at least a week or so back.

I'm going to go really extreme, and attempt to Maelstrom three/four of these. I just need an Army Book for each and a few more units, and I'm set.




Wait, did that last bit look like a pun?

Heh, it is tempting.

I just ordered both rulebooks off maelstrom this morning, along with the Daemon spell cards. Not that I have a Daemon army, but I thought just in case.

I'm thinking of ordering one of these from GW for speed of delivery, got the rulebook two days early. Then get a second, possible third from Maelstrom.
GW sure knows how to squueze cash from me once or twice a year, even if I had zero plans to spend with them.

The idea of Seaguard vs Corsair battles along a coast battlefield would be pretty funky as well.

Just had a look at the starter box introduction booklet. Weird. Tells you the names of characters and background plus what other races exist in the Warhammer world, but refers to the stat lines in the BRB for actually playing. No introductory scenarios, no rules for the miniatures. You basically need both army books in addition to the starter box to make your first game (and read the full rules book and army books first of course). A big step backwards from the BfSP booklet. Don't know what they were thinking. Weird!

That is odd... They could easily have re-printed a few statlines and the most basic scenario into the intro book, surely?

Basic characteristics listed at the back of the little BfSP Rulebook for all armies
Stats given in the "Read This First" BfSP starter book

That is indeed a step backwards and disappointing to hear.
It is the equivalent of not having batteries supplied.

Disappointing, but frankly, great marketing for GW. "Hey buy this 'starter' set. What? It doesn't come with everything you need to play? Oh, well, let's remedy that. Here are two $25 books that will give you what you need." Remember the old Microsoft adage: "It's not a bug, it's a feature."

Kroothawk wrote:Just had a look at the starter box introduction booklet. Weird. Tells you the names of characters and background plus what other races exist in the Warhammer world, but refers to the stat lines in the BRB for actually playing. No introductory scenarios, no rules for the miniatures. You basically need both army books in addition to the starter box to make your first game (and read the full rules book and army books first of course). A big step backwards from the BfSP booklet. Don't know what they were thinking. Weird!

Isn't that pretty much the same as the 40k starter booklet?

No. The 40k starter set's booklet has the stats and points costs for the units included. All that's missing is the special rules.

In case it hasn't been posted here yet, I'm hearing a $99 US price for Island Of Blood as a confirmed price from GW employees when this set goes on sale this coming Tuesday.

Eek
that will be around the £70 mark?


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£62 at current rates

99 GBP if GW's accountants have their way...

Well I've heard its going to be $150 AUS dollar. Don't see why it would be cheaper/more expensive then the W40k starter set.

Oh, I can see why it would be more expensive than Black Reach, and it apparently will be. I've heard this $99 price at two different stores from employees who were told to provide the information to customers.

Interesting. This is probably why GW follow a policy of very limited times between official sneak peeks and release dates - it gives people time to get over the initial 'Imigodthatsawsome!' and reconsider buying the set. My initial impression of the models was they they're amongst the best GW have done, but the more I see of the Elves, the less awesome they look. There are some odd proportions, and they're still, overall, lacking in dynamism. The Skaven are far more consistent, and still look great to me.

Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:Eek
that will be around the £70 mark?


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£62 at current rates

GW UK have confirmed this will be selling for £60 in the UK.

Where did they confirm this?

How much in Australia?

Wow, now that's an amazing new low if it turns out to be true. I guess they really don't intend on selling the starter set to new players then if you can't even play a game with what comes in the box.

This isn't "batteries not included", this is leaving out essential components from the box, and forcing the customer to call and ask "WTF?", and telling them "Ha ha, oh yeah, you have to give us another $50 in order to play." bs.

At the very least, statlines are in the rulebook. You can play with what's in the box.

Oh, the main rulebook has the summary in the back for all the armies. So as long as that's included with the mini rulebook then I guess you're right.

The GW website says the mini-rulebook has the bestiary.

Took a friend to the local GW for a tutorial WHFB game. That game plus the awesome painted models from Island of Blood on display pushed him over the edge.


He's getting a starter box.