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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/06 16:16:17
Subject: Dawn of War III diorama - Imperial Knight vs Wraithknight duel
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Sure Space Wolves Land Raider Pilot
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/06 16:21:24
Subject: Dawn of War III diorama - Imperial Knight vs Wraithknight duel
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Ultramarine Librarian with Freaky Familiar
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Haha! Suck it, Space Elf!
Good work on the diorama.
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Thought for the day: Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.
30k Ultramarines: 2000 pts
Bolt Action Germans: ~1200 pts
AOS Stormcast: Just starting.
The Empire : ~60-70 models.
1500 pts
: My Salamanders painting blog 16 Infantry and 2 Vehicles done so far! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/06 16:24:06
Subject: Dawn of War III diorama - Imperial Knight vs Wraithknight duel
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Pustulating Plague Priest
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Haha. Best part in the trailer! But since the trailer came out one or two days ago, how long did it take you to make this beauty?
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Faithful... Enlightened... Ambitious... Brethren... WE NEED A NEW DRIVER! THIS ONE IS DEAD! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/06 16:24:36
Subject: Re:Dawn of War III diorama - Imperial Knight vs Wraithknight duel
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Boosting Space Marine Biker
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That is just amazing.. and considering the timeframe to get this done that's incredible work!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/06 16:28:26
Subject: Dawn of War III diorama - Imperial Knight vs Wraithknight duel
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Sure Space Wolves Land Raider Pilot
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SkavenLord wrote:Haha. Best part in the trailer! But since the trailer came out one or two days ago, how long did it take you to make this beauty?
The time frame already appeared in your post.  Two days, indeed.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/06 17:11:46
Subject: Re:Dawn of War III diorama - Imperial Knight vs Wraithknight duel
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Pestilent Plague Marine with Blight Grenade
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Looks ok, it would have been nice to see some color on the Wraithknight other then the green gems.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/06 17:14:33
Subject: Dawn of War III diorama - Imperial Knight vs Wraithknight duel
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Lead-Footed Trukkboy Driver
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Wow... That's incredible!
Two days? TWO days? I can't get a grot painted in two days.
Was it a commission or just because?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/06 17:40:25
Subject: Re:Dawn of War III diorama - Imperial Knight vs Wraithknight duel
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Pulsating Possessed Chaos Marine
Did you guys know Canada has a friggin desert?
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Snoopdeville3 wrote:Looks ok, it would have been nice to see some color on the Wraithknight other then the green gems.
You haven't seen the trailer have you?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/06 19:28:03
Subject: Dawn of War III diorama - Imperial Knight vs Wraithknight duel
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I think I need to change my underwear.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/06 21:06:35
Subject: Re:Dawn of War III diorama - Imperial Knight vs Wraithknight duel
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Sneaky Sniper Drone
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Amazeballs Oo° Two days, haha. i dont get it -_- Do you even sleep?
Really, really awesome! Still getting the chills thinking of the trailer, must have watched it 50 times or so....and now you come along with this. I love you
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Mischief. Mayhem. Soap. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/06 21:24:57
Subject: Dawn of War III diorama - Imperial Knight vs Wraithknight duel
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Xenohunter with First Contact
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Truly very impressive work!! Love the attention to detail!
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I always try to keep this up to date with what projects I'm working on... but they just keep piling up
Hobby addict with a serious problem. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/06 22:57:43
Subject: Re:Dawn of War III diorama - Imperial Knight vs Wraithknight duel
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Imperial Agent Provocateur
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I didn't notice who posted this when I clicked on it, but was interested because of the title. Had I noticed it was you guys, I might not have been quite so shocked but how amazing that is! And in that short timeframe! DAYUM!
Thought it might just be a take on it, but it really has everything from the trailer, even Mr Angelos. Although I only watched it twice, shouldn't the base be a little more "icey"?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/07 04:38:10
Subject: Dawn of War III diorama - Imperial Knight vs Wraithknight duel
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Mutated Chosen Chaos Marine
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Gorgeous! And done in record time I might add! Very nice!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/07 05:40:36
Subject: Dawn of War III diorama - Imperial Knight vs Wraithknight duel
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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Suffer not the Alien to live!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/07 13:47:09
Subject: Dawn of War III diorama - Imperial Knight vs Wraithknight duel
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Dakka Veteran
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Amazing amazing amazing. Minor of the minor details only because I've been staring for so long. The scroll script on the chains word arm needs writing.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/07 13:55:45
Subject: Re:Dawn of War III diorama - Imperial Knight vs Wraithknight duel
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Troubled By Non-Compliant Worlds
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That is amazing!
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Revenge is a dish best served with mayonnaise and those little cheesy things on sticks. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/07 14:00:10
Subject: Dawn of War III diorama - Imperial Knight vs Wraithknight duel
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Fate-Controlling Farseer
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The trailer came out just a few days ago... how?
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Full Frontal Nerdity |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/07 15:15:16
Subject: Dawn of War III diorama - Imperial Knight vs Wraithknight duel
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Stalwart Space Marine
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Very cool diorama, Polak potrafi
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/08 12:14:56
Subject: Dawn of War III diorama - Imperial Knight vs Wraithknight duel
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Very impressive, looks great!
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--Lord of the Sentinels Eternal-- |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/09 02:47:46
Subject: Dawn of War III diorama - Imperial Knight vs Wraithknight duel
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Wicked Ghast
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I love dioramas and this is a superb example. Well done!
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Nothing to see here, move along mortal. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/09 05:39:50
Subject: Re:Dawn of War III diorama - Imperial Knight vs Wraithknight duel
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Huge Hierodule
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Fantastic Sir.
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was censored by the ministry of truth |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/09 06:12:44
Subject: Dawn of War III diorama - Imperial Knight vs Wraithknight duel
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Perfect Shot Dark Angels Predator Pilot
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Great work
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/09 06:40:44
Subject: Re:Dawn of War III diorama - Imperial Knight vs Wraithknight duel
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Douglas Bader
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Ugh. Yet another piece where you guys do 90% good work and then ruin it with terrible "OSL". Please, please take some time to learn how OSL works and how to do it right. It would be a huge step up in the quality of your finished products.
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There is no such thing as a hobby without politics. "Leave politics at the door" is itself a political statement, an endorsement of the status quo and an attempt to silence dissenting voices. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/09 16:25:39
Subject: Dawn of War III diorama - Imperial Knight vs Wraithknight duel
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Norn Queen
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Absolutely bonkers! Really love it
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goobs is all you guys will ever be
By 1-irt: Still as long as Hissy keeps showing up this is one of the most entertaining threads ever.
"Feelin' goods, good enough". |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/10 06:27:34
Subject: Dawn of War III diorama - Imperial Knight vs Wraithknight duel
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Dakka Veteran
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When I saw the duel in trailer, I immediately thought that I want to see that done with miniatures. I didn't expect it to happen in two days though...
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That place is the harsh dark future far left with only war left. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/10 06:55:56
Subject: Re:Dawn of War III diorama - Imperial Knight vs Wraithknight duel
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Boosting Space Marine Biker
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Peregrine wrote:Ugh. Yet another piece where you guys do 90% good work and then ruin it with terrible " OSL". Please, please take some time to learn how OSL works and how to do it right. It would be a huge step up in the quality of your finished products.
How is the osl wrong here, out of curiosity?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/10 07:06:59
Subject: Re:Dawn of War III diorama - Imperial Knight vs Wraithknight duel
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Drop Trooper with Demo Charge
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Wow, It's amazing how such a great work has been done in such a small time, great job!!
Peregrine wrote:Ugh. Yet another piece where you guys do 90% good work and then ruin it with terrible " OSL". Please, please take some time to learn how OSL works and how to do it right. It would be a huge step up in the quality of your finished products.
The OSL might not be perfect, but it's still a really good work, even more for just two days of work
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/10 07:37:44
Subject: Re:Dawn of War III diorama - Imperial Knight vs Wraithknight duel
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Ultramarine Librarian with Freaky Familiar
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Chapter Master Angelos wrote: Peregrine wrote:Ugh. Yet another piece where you guys do 90% good work and then ruin it with terrible " OSL". Please, please take some time to learn how OSL works and how to do it right. It would be a huge step up in the quality of your finished products.
How is the osl wrong here, out of curiosity?
From my untrained eye? On the left leg of the WK it looks like the OSL is coming from a light source just off the top left of the thigh rather than the more distant explosion to the right. The orange paint is way too intense and isolated. And on the WK's blade it looks like there are two different light sources while the explosion doesn't really show "bright spots" away from the explosion's source that would create that effect. So, logically, the OSL would look like it would be coming from the same source.
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Thought for the day: Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.
30k Ultramarines: 2000 pts
Bolt Action Germans: ~1200 pts
AOS Stormcast: Just starting.
The Empire : ~60-70 models.
1500 pts
: My Salamanders painting blog 16 Infantry and 2 Vehicles done so far! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/10 08:56:19
Subject: Re:Dawn of War III diorama - Imperial Knight vs Wraithknight duel
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Douglas Bader
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Look at the top fin thing on the back of the wraithknight in the first picture. See how it's just a big blob of red/orange with hard edges? Real light shouldn't be so intense that it completely overwhelms the base color of the surface, and if it somehow was that bright it certainly wouldn't be just one blob with immediately adjacent areas completely dark. Light intense enough to overwhelm the base color would be bright and obvious on that whole side of the wraithknight: all the way out to the tip of the fin, the back ends of the guns, etc. Just look at some real light sources illuminating nearby surfaces and you see something very different.
The reason it looks like it does is that it's a textbook example of the "look at me I have an airbrush" style of painting used by a lot of commission painters. You have to have OSL because "pro painted" models always have OSL, but you really don't want to do OSL. It takes a lot of effort and artistic skill to do OSL right, something that is not compatible with getting the commission finished and moving on to the next paying customer. So you just spray a blob of the light color on some nearby surfaces and hope that the customer is sufficiently impressed by the soft edge fading an airbrush does by default (something you can't really do with a "normal" brush). If you're really feeling adventurous or the customer is paying for the higher tier of quality you might even spray a blob of a lighter shade in the middle of the first blob. But you're certainly not going to spend a ton of time carefully layering the subtle shades and highlights of proper OSL. Automatically Appended Next Post: GloomyFenix wrote:The OSL might not be perfect, but it's still a really good work, even more for just two days of work
That's why I said "90% there, but ruined by terrible OSL". And the rest of the work isn't all that impressive, honestly. It's a competently executed example of the "look at me I have an airbrush" style and looks ok from a distance, but it's pretty obviously a rush job that doesn't hold up very well under closer inspection. And stuff like the the obvious seam on the tip of the battle cannon and the un-drilled heavy stubber barrel just shouldn't happen on professional work.
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There is no such thing as a hobby without politics. "Leave politics at the door" is itself a political statement, an endorsement of the status quo and an attempt to silence dissenting voices. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/10 09:33:13
Subject: Re:Dawn of War III diorama - Imperial Knight vs Wraithknight duel
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Peregrine wrote:
Look at the top fin thing on the back of the wraithknight in the first picture. See how it's just a big blob of red/orange with hard edges? Real light shouldn't be so intense that it completely overwhelms the base color of the surface, and if it somehow was that bright it certainly wouldn't be just one blob with immediately adjacent areas completely dark. Light intense enough to overwhelm the base color would be bright and obvious on that whole side of the wraithknight: all the way out to the tip of the fin, the back ends of the guns, etc. Just look at some real light sources illuminating nearby surfaces and you see something very different.
The reason it looks like it does is that it's a textbook example of the "look at me I have an airbrush" style of painting used by a lot of commission painters. You have to have OSL because "pro painted" models always have OSL, but you really don't want to do OSL. It takes a lot of effort and artistic skill to do OSL right, something that is not compatible with getting the commission finished and moving on to the next paying customer. So you just spray a blob of the light color on some nearby surfaces and hope that the customer is sufficiently impressed by the soft edge fading an airbrush does by default (something you can't really do with a "normal" brush). If you're really feeling adventurous or the customer is paying for the higher tier of quality you might even spray a blob of a lighter shade in the middle of the first blob. But you're certainly not going to spend a ton of time carefully layering the subtle shades and highlights of proper OSL.
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GloomyFenix wrote:The OSL might not be perfect, but it's still a really good work, even more for just two days of work
That's why I said "90% there, but ruined by terrible OSL". And the rest of the work isn't all that impressive, honestly. It's a competently executed example of the "look at me I have an airbrush" style and looks ok from a distance, but it's pretty obviously a rush job that doesn't hold up very well under closer inspection. And stuff like the the obvious seam on the tip of the battle cannon and the un-drilled heavy stubber barrel just shouldn't happen on professional work.
For a 2 day work, I think its mighty impressive. From the conversion to the painting and the timeframe that all of these was achieved. Sure its not perfect, but you give way less credit than what the artist who did this deserve. Still, I guess your critique would be decent if you didn't complain so much.
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