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They are cheaper for a reason. Also some of the stuff have low effort detail, like the AT building.

Ha. If only they were cheaper for us.

Definitely gonna start saving for this

Fingers crossed that they are close to the FW resin and the Necro printed tiles in style and size.

There's nothing inherently inferior about Chinese GW plastic. They do often use China for less detailed kits (Endless Spells and most faction terrain) but some of their higest grade kits (like Warhammer Underworlds warbands) are also made in China.

Bold claim but I'm pretty sure WU band is GW made in UK

 lord_blackfang wrote:
There's nothing inherently inferior about Chinese GW plastic.

Wasn't really implying that. But there were some terrain kits that came out that were noticeably different from GW's usual stuff (and not just because them came off the sprue in plastic bags inside the box).

I'd agree with that some of the 'made in china' terrain stuff was noticibly poorer both in terms of casting (stuff just not lining up properly) but also design to the extent that it didn't seem to be done by the same design/sculpting team (whether that was old physically made stuff scanned in to create the 3d stuff or just trainee sculptors)

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Ha. If only they were cheaper for us.

Or if they’d ship direct to you instead of around the world . China-England-Drop Bear land. Maybe they’d save some on gas.

Chopstick wrote:
Bold claim but I'm pretty sure WU band is GW made in UK

Spoiler:

No prize for you

 lord_blackfang wrote:

Chopstick wrote:
Bold claim but I'm pretty sure WU band is GW made in UK

Spoiler:

No prize for you

Spoiler:

Only Mollog mob and Godsworn hunt seem to be the odd one out, the rest are made in UK

The point stands, China can make the highest detailed kits just fine.

New mini-campaign in White Dwarf! Can have a look at youtube, multiple reviews on the latest white dwarf (october 2019).

The cards are produced in China the models are molded in the UK

come on GW show us Dark uprising!!

Anyone know what day is Essen spiel's seminar?

Baxx wrote:
New mini-campaign in White Dwarf! Can have a look at youtube, multiple reviews on the latest white dwarf (october 2019).

I'll wait for it be collated in "Necromunda: Everything We Released This Year, Minus Some Things, But With Other New Things".

I also appreciate how the Assault on Precinct 17 campaign that is all about the Enforcers wasn't in the Book of Judgement.

It's already being collated into my 100% complete necromunda rules document. Ain't got time to wait!

Seems like WD articles (for Necromunda at least) is reserved for test versions, and we may later see a finished version in pdf or books. But then, books are also released in test versions...

So if someone were just starting out in Necromunda with the starter box, what else would they need?

You guys are confusing me! (Although, admittedly, that is becoming less difficult to achieve...)

What books you want depends on what gangs and additional rules you want. Navigating that is... just a mess.

Voss wrote:
Navigating that is... just a mess.

But not if you're trying to answer godswildcard's quite simple question...

 godswildcard wrote:
So if someone were just starting out in Necromunda with the starter box, what else would they need?

This and this. The first one is the rulebook for the game, the second are the rules for the core 6 gangs (and various other add-ons, hired guns and so on). If you're just starting out these two books are fine and you wouldn't need anything else.

Well... except the Gang Cards, but you can't buy them any more because Games Workshop.

 godswildcard wrote:
So if someone were just starting out in Necromunda with the starter box, what else would they need?

You guys are confusing me! (Although, admittedly, that is becoming less difficult to achieve...)

Oh god, don't ever buy the underhive starter box. pick the gang you want and buy it alongside the Gang of the Underhive and the Rulebook.

Chopstick wrote:
Oh god, don't ever buy the underhive starter box. pick the gang you want and buy it alongside the Gang of the Underhive and the Rulebook.

Underhive is fine as a starter set. Includes two gangs, tactics cards, dice set(x2?), templates, tokens, scatter terrain (doors, barricades, boxes), and cardboard sector tiles for roughly $100. It's a great deal for what you get. It includes a lot of stuff you need but probably don't want to pay a lot for (like $15 dice packs). It's true that Underhive is not the final form of Necromunda (and this was the case when it launched), but it is a good STARTER set.

If you begin with the starter set, then all you need is the rulebook + gang book.

The book in the starter is now outdated, for sure. But the physical contents of the box are pretty worth it, in terms of models/terrain/boards. Entry into the game does seem a bit convoluted for new players though. I'd like to see them do another box that is more future proofed.

Thanks everyone!

I feel like I did pretty well for $125...

 Thargrim wrote:
I'd like to see them do another box that is more future proofed.

I'd like to see Necromunda get more than the most cursory support, with products that are sold for more than a week and half the game limited to ForgeWorld resin. Also, given how much GW charges for things these days, I can only imagine what a new Necromunda box set would cost... We'll probably miss the ForgeWorld resin prices...

50% off makes it worthwhile.

 godswildcard wrote:
So if someone were just starting out in Necromunda with the starter box, what else would they need?

You guys are confusing me! (Although, admittedly, that is becoming less difficult to achieve...)

You want the easy solution? Get a rules compilation pdf and complete cards pdf. Hard way? Buy the 2 rulebooks (rules + gangs), then buy Book of Perils and Book of Judgement. You might as well download the free official Chaos Cult pdf, Genestealer cult pdf and additional tactics cards pdf.

For miniatures, if you want max customization, get an extra gang box (escher and/or goliath) and get extra weapon bits (leftovers from 40k or gang specific from Forge World). Stuff like flamers, heavy bolters, heavy stubbers, boltguns, boltpistols etc. Maybe exotic beasts (Forge World, convert or 3rd party). Maybe Brutes (GW, convert or 3rd party).

You may find it useful with some additional tokens not included in the starter box. This may be generic tokens you already have, 3rd party or hard-to-get out of production necromunda tokens. Stuff like wounds, intoxication, webbed, insanity ++.

You may want additional tactics cards and underdog tactics cards. These are mostly no longer for sale, so good luck.

You may want additional Zone Mortalis (2D) tiles, the Badzone Delta-7 box. This is no longer for sale, so good luck again.

Baxx wrote:

 godswildcard wrote:
So if someone were just starting out in Necromunda with the starter box, what else would they need?

You guys are confusing me! (Although, admittedly, that is becoming less difficult to achieve...)

You want the easy solution? Get a rules compilation pdf and complete cards pdf. Hard way? Buy the 2 rulebooks (rules + gangs), then buy Book of Perils and Book of Judgement. You might as well download the free official Chaos Cult pdf, Genestealer cult pdf and additional tactics cards pdf.

For miniatures, if you want max customization, get an extra gang box (escher and/or goliath) and get extra weapon bits (leftovers from 40k or gang specific from Forge World). Stuff like flamers, heavy bolters, heavy stubbers, boltguns, boltpistols etc. Maybe exotic beasts (Forge World, convert or 3rd party). Maybe Brutes (GW, convert or 3rd party).

You may find it useful with some additional tokens not included in the starter box. This may be generic tokens you already have, 3rd party or hard-to-get out of production necromunda tokens. Stuff like wounds, intoxication, webbed, insanity ++.

You may want additional tactics cards and underdog tactics cards. These are mostly no longer for sale, so good luck.

You may want additional Zone Mortalis (2D) tiles, the Badzone Delta-7 box. This is no longer for sale, so good luck again.

^ THIS.

The boxed set is excellent to start out with. You don't even need all of the minis to start playing.

You can put your list together with about 4 or 5 and make your own gang list up the same way we did back in the day. That way, you have the other gangers for upgrades, or gangers to buy after the fights are all over. A gang leader, a couple of gangers 2 with range weapons, 2 with hand to hand, and maybe make one of them a heavy.

Read through what you have onhand, then go for the next add on, such as an additional box of gangers per gang, and maybe a new gang form another house.

100% agreement in downloading the website downloads. They are where you can get the cards from without buying them all. USE CARDSTOCK, and laminate them for added support. that way you can use a grease pencil or a dry erase marker for the cards. Other then that, just download the gang roster and use that.

What part of "just starting out" did you folks not understand?

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
What part of "just starting out" did you folks not understand?

Isn't that how GW view "just starting out"?
Roughly translated to "buy everything".

What's killed my interest, along with most GW stuff these days, is the part where people say "good luck getting those, they're out of print". I really dislike how half the stuff GW spew out these days is unofficially limited edition and is often sold out on pre-order.
It's such a pain getting your friends to play. They come round for a demo game, have fun and say they'll buy into it, only to find the stuff is no longer available.
GW games used to spread and grow through friends and recommendations, now, sales seem to be based around existing gamers and fomo.

Don't forget "throw out $300 worth of books because they are like... so last year."