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I'm slated to get my Conan KS delivery today - assuming the mini quality is acceptable, I'm definitely backing this. That's a great way to do Scylla with the tentacles being separately based. The gods/heroes look pretty boss. One pic of the hydra looks meh, but that may be the paint job/flash.
Finally getting that hydra. Reaper's sold for $15 on their Bones KS. Probably larger, but, for gaming, I figure a hydra's a hydra!
I love the game mechanics. Yes, you have the obligatory dice rolling, but the card activation system is simplicity and genius -- although maybe you miniature wargamers can tell me of other systems that use it. Big dumb monsters get stronger but fewer activation cards in your deck, smaller nimbler units get more activation cards. Your leaders have activation cards that allow you to -- wait for it -- retrieve other activation cards from your deck. So you can pull out those activation cards you want, crush your opponent and -- what? You can't shuffle your discard pile into your draw pile until your opponent does??? Let me rethink my Greek weenie strategy...
Automatically Appended Next Post: WOOVEN dice bag unlocked!
Hell Hound Synchronized Swimming Team unlocked!
And because every hallway needs an odd number of columns...
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I hit KS saturation before this so I'll have to patiently watch from the sidelines. I should be getting my Conan stuff soonish too. I got the notice for shipping.
I have watched a few videos of unboxing on the King level and some people are reporting issues with soft details from retail box contents. I'll see how mine look in hand.
I backed as it looks good, but still haven't recieved any of my conan stuff yet (not even a shipping notice). Was hoping to get my stuff and take a gander at quality, gameplay, etc before backing again. Although I heard they were shipping the small pledges first (darn, i was hoping they would ship to those who spent the most $ first). Oh well, patience is a virtue they say.
Nice to see the gameplay is different from conan too. This way one can have two similar yet different themed games that play differently.
I did hear that there would be some crossover from conan too. I'm very interested to hear more about that. Leonidas vs conan??? Sounds like fun!
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@Shiro the white wolf - the Conan crossover will be an add-on pack. Not everyone wants it as not everyone plays Conan, and this seemed like the fairest approach.
Hmm... pulled more quotes from the comments than I thought I would...
@Doodlekid00 - I've asked about the colour of the plastics in MB and Conan. The MB plastics will not use the pale plastic used for Conan heroes. As for Conan itself, no decision has been made yet on future reprints. The first batch of retail copies was made at the same time in the same colour as the KS ones.
@Smud - yes, I'm Jake Thornton, game designer, former White Dwarf editor, etc. No, I didn't have anything to do with these rules. To be honest, I'm probably a lot less happy with what happened to DS than you are. here isn't the place to discuss it though.
@Seb_Super - we have a huge background to draw from. Greek myth is enormous.
@Glaxos -
(1) On my to do list as well. Personally I'd rather call him Herakles (and heraklean) but that's only one of a number of naming details we need to check again. Partly this is the confusion of a French designer using Ancient Greek names and then translating it into English. The "Ancient Greek" names used in English and French aren't the same.
(2) I know. This was done before I joined the project. In the game the lambda is used as the symbol of the Art of War cards, which seems not inappropriate.
(3) One of the real issues with the background is that all the characters are noted for a dozen different, and sometimes conflicting things. Others, such as Achilles, are so good at everything that they need a weakness to make them work. There is a veteran Achilles stateliness too (which I never told you about) in which he's not slow.
(4) Can't help you there. I could never get very excited about the details of Greek columnar architecture.
@Alex Draper - The English translation will be as good as I can help to make it. I want an unambiguous rulebook too
@Naaba, the Voice of Valhöll - the bases will be grey plastic for production models. The clear ones were done for the original demos and the studio-painted showcase models.
@Perry Grosshans - the aim is to make the whole game Greek-inspired, so yes, there will be many more Greek units. Ancient Greek Myth is the source for all this, not video games or movies (though they can be fun to play/watch too). The only exception is some of the Troops who are a bit made up to fill in the blanks. I still like the idea of a horde of Giant Spiders hanging round with Arachne. If that wasn't mentioned in Greek myth it was only because they forgot
@LP - the shipping to Canada might be custom friendly. We hope so. At present we haven't finalised which shipper we will use (still in negotiation) and so it depends on that.
@Rob... Snow - Conan goes to retail towards the end of this month. After all the KS pledges have been sent out.
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I am torn. The game looks fun, but they have mentioned that if this KS does well, there will be other Pantheons in the future. The viking one, Ragnarok interests me a bit more than this one. Granted that's probably 2 years away (also not for sure), but I have a lot of games to play already. That and I also really want to get KDM at the end of this month and I doubt I can afford both with Christmas coming up. I have thought about selling my Conan Kings pledge once it gets in tomorrow and my copy of The Others Kickstarter, but I have not made up my mind yet.
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@Seb_Super - I've been told that there is one scenario where 3 play 1, with the one having a God and the others not.
I was also asked whether narrative campaigns were only 2 player. They vary. Some are only 2 player, some 3-4 player and some 2-4. There is no fixed format - instead each author was told to do whatever made for the most fun and best representation of the story the campaign told.
@Andres - Mythic Battles will not be using the pale plastic like the Heroes in Conan. The models will be in something darker.
@Amarice - AFAIK the card size is standard so that commercially available sleeves will work. We're gamers too, and there's no need to make life harder for ourselves as well as everyone else
@Artur Biesiadowski - the Conan crossover will be an add-on because not everyone will want it. But yes, it's coming. We'll discuss that in detail when it's added.
@Rhino: Keep your Pantheon pledge for now. The two KS overlap, so you can make your decision later!
Well, I don't know anything about the previous game. I did however get my Conan stuff today. Whatever the issue was with soft features, I don't see it. Everything looks fantastic. Quality wise, it's on par with Z:BP.
Looks like my Wargods of Olympus minis will have new friends and purpose
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The mention of the miniatures being made of PVC is very disappointing especially because they seem to acknowledge this by making the spears out of a better plastic.
Absolutionis wrote: The mention of the miniatures being made of PVC is very disappointing especially because they seem to acknowledge this by making the spears out of a better plastic.
It's fine for board game minis. Zombicide, Blood Rage, Conan etc are all fantastic.
MLaw wrote: Well, I don't know anything about the previous game. I did however get my Conan stuff today. Whatever the issue was with soft features, I don't see it. Everything looks fantastic. Quality wise, it's on par with Z:BP.
I think its that the light gray hero figures are slightly translucent so look softer in detail until you get a base coat on them. They arent Mierce quality by any stretch, but pretty damn good for under a buck a dude!
The only issues I ever see with PVC are bendy spears (addressed here) and soft detail on human-scale faces (not a problem with helmeted figures, and fairly easily addressable with head swaps if need be).
Automatically Appended Next Post: Gah. I really like almost everything about the game apart from Achilles. He has a sword from Zelda, armour from World of Warcraft, and a pose from Riverdance. NOOOO
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I'd say that if you're looking for higher quality miniatures, boardgame miniatures ain't it. Boardgame miniatures are still game pieces, which means they can't break when fumblefingers plays the game, and boardgamers won't pay for them after a certain price point. Reaper and Dakka forums are good to find the higher quality stuff.
EDIT: Whoops! Forgot to mention GW and CMON's miniatures.
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Yep. GW miniatures are primarily for miniature wargaming, and these miniatures are typically higher quality than boardgame miniatures. But miniature wargamers are expected to paint and otherwise treat their miniatures with care, while boardgamers usually don't paint their miniatures and will throw them into the box. Thus, boardgame miniatures have to be durable, but this means softer plastic that doesn't hold details as well as the sometimes more brittle wargaming plastic.
CMON is something of an exception to boardgame plastic in that, afaik, they were in the miniatures business before going into boardgames. Typically, it's the other way around. CMON, of course, stands for "Cool Mini or Not", which certainly suggests their miniature background. I don't think it's hard to say that their projects, which can raise over a million dollars, are successful in part because of their miniatures. However, as the exception, if you want CMON-quality miniatures, your best bet is to back a CMON project. I'm definitely looking forward to their World of Smog KS!
