Black Library 2017 News/Rumours Thread : Xmas Advent

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**Pilau Rice**

Another one from the Dark Hunters by Paul Kearney

http://www.blacklibrary.com/warhammer-40000/the-blind-king-ebook.html

Dark Hunters stuff in bound perhaps?

**TiamatRoar**

Pilau Rice wrote:
Another one from the Dark Hunters by Paul Kearney

http://www.blacklibrary.com/warhammer-40000/the-blind-king-ebook.html

Dark Hunters stuff in bound perhaps?

It's probably just Paul taking established fluff and making a novel (or series of novels) out of it (another recent example, though far far faaaar from the only one, being the series of World Engine stories). The Dark Hunters fighting the Blind King was part of the fluff since 5th Edition.

**BrookM**

Had a listen of the Long Night and the Eagle's Talon. The latter was meh, nothing too special other than an interesting way of presenting itself as a found footage thing. Long Night though, it was short but interesting, the chap who did Sev's voice was an excellent choice.

"You didn't have to kill him Jago!"

"No.. But it suited me to so."

**Pilau Rice**

TiamatRoar wrote:
Pilau Rice wrote:
Another one from the Dark Hunters by Paul Kearney

http://www.blacklibrary.com/warhammer-40000/the-blind-king-ebook.html

Dark Hunters stuff inbound perhaps?

It's probably just Paul taking established fluff and making a novel (or series of novels) out of it (another recent example, though far far faaaar from the only one, being the series of World Engine stories). The Dark Hunters fighting the Blind King was part of the fluff since 5th Edition.

True, but the World Engine has relevance to the Necrons release.

**reds8n**

**Ratius**

Are the Tallarn books in the HH series a mini series in themselves? They are related?

**Azreal13**

Looks that way, I'm not sure of the characters are recurring or not, but they will at least be linked by events.

Executioner, FWIW, is one of the better HH novellas I've had chance to read.

**BrookM**

I'm going to pick it up, or order it, the moment it goes on sale. Pity free shipping with GW is €50 now.

**warboss**

GW apparently considers the Horus Heresy to be a fractal in the shape of a dollar sign (or GBP swirly "L" in this case). The more I see news about it, the more it is fragmented with no end in sight.

**Azreal13**

warboss wrote:
GW apparently considers the Horus Heresy to be a fractal in the shape of a dollar sign (or GBP swirly "L" in this case). The more I see news about it, the more it is fragmented with no end in sight.

One only has to look at the list of the 100 HH products Red posted back along - I made the point at the time that 12 of the first 15 were full novels, only 2 of the most recent have been (and one or both of those were actually anthologies)

**BrookM**

It was never going to be an easy ride from A to B sadly. At least they're filling in the blanks, or in a lot of cases, providing an awful lot of filler.

**reds8n**

Ratius wrote:
Are the Tallarn books in the HH series a mini series in themselves? They are related?

Yes.

From what I gather you won't have to have read/listened to the others but it will indeed help.

Can't help but think that the Garro collection might have been better off being released prior to Vengeful Spirit but hindsight is etc etc

http://www.blacklibrary.com/new-at-bl/interview-with-the-chapter-master-of-the-dark-hunters.html

Hey readers,
Umbra Sumus is the first ever novel to star the Dark Hunters Space Marine Chapter. With the release of this much anticipated new book now less than 48 hours away, we caught up with author Paul Kearney to find out more about this little-known Chapter and what we can look forward to in this first novel-length adventure.

"...a single under-strength company of Space Marines can be more fearsome than tens of thousands of human soldiers."

NEW@BL: Tell us about your novel 'Umbra Sumus'

Paul: The book deals with urban warfare, the siege and assault of a great city which is teeming with millions of civilians. Not only do we see the desperate defence by the Imperial Guard, but there is also the ferocious onslaught of the Dark Hunters themselves. Through the book, we come to understand how a single under-strength company of Space Marines can be more fearsome than tens of thousands of human soldiers.

We're all about some classic Warhammer 40,000 siege warfare, but we suspect that there are also some compelling stories alongside the brutal urban war?

There are a number of reversals of fortune throughout the novel, where victory turns to defeat and back again. But at its heart, the story is about a tight-knit group of Adeptus Astartes who have all fought together for decades, even centuries, and who would die without thought or question for one another. They are, in the end, brothers in every sense of the word. That does not mean they all like each other. But their brotherhood is all that will carry them through some of the most savage and hopeless fighting they have ever experienced.

What makes the Dark Hunters distinctive from other Space Marine Chapters?

The Dark Hunters are known and revered as the most stubborn in defence of all Adeptus Astartes chapters. Their history is chequered with tragedy. Three times, their brotherhood has been brought to the brink of extinction, but each time they have returned, rebuilt, and have recruited and clawed their way back into the Imperium's annals. They are a poor Chapter as a result, under strength, badly equipped and almost forgotten except in shadowy legends. Not for them the luxury of a vast fleet, or a multitude of armoured vehicles, or a cloud of air support. They have learned to take the roundabout route to victory, to utilise stealth, cameleoline, and the art of ambush.
That said, when they finally are brought to bay, nothing can move them. They will die where they stand.

Thanks Paul.

We're looking froward to it.

Dark Hunters: Umbra Sumus will be available to order this Friday, as either a hardback edition, eBook or MP3 audiobook.

**Ratius**

Tend to agree with the fragmentation effect of the HH series of late.
Im all for a good story and fleshing things out a bit more but they really need another "move it forward significantly" title at this point.

**warboss**

Azreal13 wrote:
warboss wrote:
GW apparently considers the Horus Heresy to be a fractal in the shape of a dollar sign (or GBP swirly "L" in this case). The more I see news about it, the more it is fragmented with no end in sight.

One only has to look at the list of the 100 HH products Red posted back along - I made the point at the time that 12 of the first 15 were full novels, only 2 of the most recent have been (and one or both of those were actually anthologies)

Yeah, I know... but it seems like it is getting worse and not better. I'm expecting at this rate for an exciting collector's edition novella to come out in 2017 detailing the crucial 15 minutes in a Death Guard veteran's life where he tries to discover just which of his new orifices is making a particularly annoying gurgling noise sporadically. The audio edition should particularly be a hit! :(

**Trondheim**

Will be getting those Tallaran books, but I agree with the poster above me. We need to see this series moved ahead now, and we need it deeply

**Azreal13**

warboss wrote:
Azreal13 wrote:
warboss wrote:
GW apparently considers the Horus Heresy to be a fractal in the shape of a dollar sign (or GBP swirly "L" in this case). The more I see news about it, the more it is fragmented with no end in sight.

One only has to look at the list of the 100 HH products Red posted back along - I made the point at the time that 12 of the first 15 were full novels, only 2 of the most recent have been (and one or both of those were actually anthologies)

Yeah, I know... but it seems like it is getting worse and not better. I'm expecting at this rate for an exciting collector's edition novella to come out in 2017 detailing the crucial 15 minutes in a Death Guard veteran's life where he tries to discover just which of his new orifices is making a particularly annoying gurgling noise sporadically. The audio edition should particularly be a hit! :(

At this point (and Red is probably best placed to confirm this) do we even have a full book confirmed after Legacies Of Betrayal? (I'm getting deja vu typing this, so apologies if this has already been covered)

**reds8n**

Nick Kyme's Deathfire is the next full novel in the series AFAIK.

**Knockagh**

warboss wrote:
Ozymandias wrote:
20 quid for a novel about a chapter I've never heard about (but has "mad ambushing skillz)?

Jesus, Black Library, what happened? Show me on the Space Marine where GW hurt you.

Right here.

It's been going on for years and no one seems to want to stop it! I told Mr. Kirby but he just laughed it off and just rambled on about stolen pigs in a moat or somesuch. :(

Buddy your licence is out of date!

**warboss**

It was a random internet google photo. I wish that I had been under 21 in that year!

**reds8n**

... Sad news - only rumour but sounds plausible enough

Tallarn. Ironclad is a short novel. Bigger than a novella but not quite a novel and is being sold in the first edition format. In the logo box. For 40 pounds. It is not in the numbered novel line.

..well if this does turn out to be the case won't be reading this until it's reprinted.

Conflicting reports that it's actually £27.50 - £30 which is more what one was expecting.

Different formats maybe ..?

EDIT : Hmm... Ironclad is indeed £40 special edition.

Oh well.

Soulforge is getting a regular release "soon".

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"Blades of the traitor" -- see earlier posts -- : 2 of the stories are Daemonology and Black Occulus both of which are ebooks released via the BL site.

More oddly, the Dark Hunters novel and e-shorts -- previous page, mad ambush skills et al -- appears to have been pulled completely.

Even the blog posts relating to it/them have gone...?

.. which is odd, to say the least.

Can only assume it must be a rights issue perhaps ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark-Hunter ...? Surely not ?!

**BobtheInquisitor**

Surely it's because they are just that good at stealth.

**Looky Likey**

Somebody raised the question with Laurie Golding about the endless reprints of short stories in compilations and stand alone books, he said that was sales and marketing decision, that as editor be had no control, so that was nice.

**Warhams-77**

Several Dark Hunters products like the upcoming novel and an older e-Book from 2011 were removed from the BL website. There is only 404 dead links left of them. The blog posts of late promoting the new book are gone as well. Are there any informations about these incidents ? Something new from the HH Weekender regarding it?

**reds8n**

.. It's always nice when people read a thread

As mentioned earlier there's been no concrete answer but seems likely to be a rights/name issue with the aforementioned other series.

.. which given GW's recent history about IPs is either karma or irony, take your pic.

... and speaking of pics ....

Cover to "Meduson" which will only be available from the new BL store at Warhammer World "whilst stocks last".

**Warhams-77**

reds8n wrote:
.. It's always nice when people read a thread

As mentioned earlier there's been no concrete answer but seems likely to be a rights/name issue with the aforementioned other series.

.. which given GW's recent history about IPs is either karma or irony, take your pic.

My bad, although I skipped through the last 20 posts I had not seen you mentioned it. I have to get a second coffee. Thanks for keeping us updated as much as possible, reds8n

**reds8n**

BL are releasing the various stories that make up "Blades of the Traitor" as individual stories or in one discounted bundle.

Which is fair enough IMO

http://www.blacklibrary.com/all-products/blades-of-the-traitor-ebook-collection.html

Believe that the next hardback HH novel should be end of June/July.

and with many thanks to Mr Shaggy from the Bolthole an update about Medusason

A bit of expansion on "Meduson"...

Only available to buy from the new BL shop at Warhammer World - at least for the first (numbered, limited edition) release. No web purchases etc - only in person over the counter. Once they've done the grand re-opening thing in May (apparently there will be 3 permanent stores there - Black Library, Forge World and standard GW).

Laurie Goulding did specifically say that "Meduson" will be made available on a general release at some point in the future.

He has also stated (more than once) that all Black Library content will (eventually) appear in all formats... so e-books in print, print in e-format, audio in print (and I am guessing in e-format as well?) and that all Horus Heresy content will eventually be released in print in number format (as per the novels).

**reds8n**

http://www.blacklibrary.com/Warhammer/archaon-lord-of-chaos-hardback.html

Book 2 .. due Feb

**reds8n**

http://www.blacklibrary.com/horus-heresy

few new Hh releases this week then :

http://www.blacklibrary.com/horus-heresy/iron-corpses-mp3.html

http://www.blacklibrary.com/horus-heresy/heart-of-the-conquerer-ebook.html

http://www.blacklibrary.com/horus-heresy/tallarn-witness-ebook.html

http://www.blacklibrary.com/horus-heresy/garro-ashes-of-fealty-mp3.html

**nels1031**

Still no Curse of the Phoenix Crown. Sadfaces galore.

**BobtheInquisitor**

Have they written any end times books that cover the events of the new canon?