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Decrepit Dakkanaut






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I don't think the SDE 2.0 / Legends minis are the problem. That's relatively easy, as the render work has already been done.

   
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 JohnHwangDD wrote:
I don't think the SDE 2.0 / Legends minis are the problem. That's relatively easy, as the render work has already been done.


It's more how late they are coupled with it looking like nothing physical has been done. Renders may be done, but there is building the molds, casting samples, vetting samples, modifications to the mold, and then production. It doesn't need to be now, but it seems that nothing is running in parallel and their latest update was a shamless plug for more cash ($90 for 12 minis), of which 2/3rds don't have a prototype or render, for a game they cannot even get out the door. Right now, like NAS, it seems they will try to push it all through at once, and again have delays due to that.

I think it isn't so much the delay (although that is getting a bit daft given we are over a year behind schedule), it's the multiple follow on kickstarters and then the current poor update involving high dollar sets of figures. I previously backed NAS, and it was delayed by 6+ months, and had mediocre to poor customer support when it did launch (the game is fine, I play a simplified version with my daughter and she likes it, but it also was not well planned out). Given a 16 month delay on this one....

Pretty, but highly unreliable. for those who already have/play SDE, this is fine. For those, like me, looking to get into the game it's 'eh'. It's why I did not chip into the Relic Knights set, even if I would have enjoyed painting some of the models. For Sodapop, going forward, I will wait until it hits the shelves.

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I backed Legends, and that will likely be my last SPM/ND-related purchase. I passed on NAS and RK2 because I thought the underlying game lacking. Based on the rules support, I just can't see myself giving these guys any more money.

   
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Decrepit Dakkanaut




UK

I'd guess that if they gave the go ahead for the legends minis now they'd be on the hook for finding and paying for long term storage while the rules were finalised then printed as none of the places that do assembly will want (or have space) for the stuff to hand around for long.

So they'll be waiting to coordinate the printing and mini production

 
   
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SoCal, USA!

A new SDE:Legends Update appears!

Spoiler:
We got some really great feedback last week - and wanted to find a different way to visually share with you our progress week to week. I hope this helps, as always, we are keen to stay as transparent as able. Your love, time, and investment make this all possible! We are working on a visual progress bar for all our working elements that will greatly help you know at a glance what is going on!

Here is the texty version - pretty graphics to come next week:

Super Dungeon Development - 33% (Wave 1 is ready for layout, Wave 2 assets will be ready when Wave 1 of Relic Knights is completed)
Artwork, Sculpting, Layout - 33% (All character, treasure, item, and board art is complete, most of the sculpts are done, waiting to see production samples for the bosses of legends)
Pre-press and Manufacturing - 33% (Most of Wave 1 sculpts are approved, next step after layout is to check Wave 1 eproofs)
Fulfillment - 0% Wave 1 -
SDE 2.0 - 80% (This Wave includes SDE 2.0 Classic, Frostbyte Ravagers, Crownguard, and the two heroes/mini bosses. This stuff just needs to be laid out after Way of the Fighter)
Wave 2 - (x) - 40%
Wave 3 - Legends - 0% (Ninja Deke is hard at work)


It's exceedingly underwhelming.

They don't have anything ready. Legends (and presumably all of the promised campaigns)? 0%

But they're working on Pet Parade!

OMFG. Fail so hard.

Not another fething penny after these fethers deliver Legends.


   
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UK

Soda Pop have a new range of 1/7 (edit) scale resin figures coming for relic knights, previewing at Gencon

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That is woefully under detailed for a 1/6 scale kit. Even an anime styled one.

Or, perhaps to put it another way, this looks like a 28mm kit that was scaled up. Bit of a missed opportunity in my opinion.

~Eric

   
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Those bazongazongs are the only detail most people will need. At least they're actually true to the real thing!
   
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Those proportions are, yeah, a bit ridiculous, and the detail is pretty ridiculously chunky for a model that scale.


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Plastictrees





Calgary, Alberta, Canada

 spiralingcadaver wrote:
Those proportions are, yeah, a bit ridiculous, and the detail is pretty ridiculously chunky for a model that scale.


The proportions are...about right given who it's referencing.
   
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California the Southern

Nah, detail looks about right for a 1/6 scale kit.

Was looking at some unbuilt garage kits at a shop today in fact, and this has a lot more surface detail then some of the ones I saw.

Granted, some of those kits were older 90s ones that were way out of my price range as well, but still.

I guess if there's a market for it, might as well give it a try.

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plastictrees wrote:
 spiralingcadaver wrote:
Those proportions are, yeah, a bit ridiculous, and the detail is pretty ridiculously chunky for a model that scale.


The proportions are...about right given who it's referencing.


Agreed, proportions seem true to the reference.

highlord tamburlaine wrote:Nah, detail looks about right for a 1/6 scale kit.

Was looking at some unbuilt garage kits at a shop today in fact, and this has a lot more surface detail then some of the ones I saw.

Granted, some of those kits were older 90s ones that were way out of my price range as well, but still.

I guess if there's a market for it, might as well give it a try.


Yes, but Garage kits are mostly one person operation side business right? I would expect sharper and more detail from a professional company.
   
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Compared to a lot of super hero scale kits, the detail level is actually higher I think

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August releases








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http://sodapopminiatures.com/preorders-21/rail-raiders-infinite




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Legendary figures created by Edgar Rice Burroughs and Robert E. Howard are brought to life as highly detailed 32 mm resin miniatures, for your Pathfinder Worldscape RPG adventures! Preorder yours today! #gencon #booth2827 (http://sodapopminiatures.com/preorders-21)
*models supplied unassembled. Item will start shipping on 08/21/2017


not terribly keen on anything but the Thark, and that seems too short (I seem to remember the were twice as tall as John Carter?)

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As a fan of both authors, only the Tarzan looks appealing.

Bronze Age minis makes WAY better John Carter figs as does Tinman. Tinman also does a very nice series of Tarzan figs.

Be aware there are NSFW minis on their sites

http://tinminis.com

http://bronzeagemin.com/sci-fi/

PS. That Red Sonja is a Roy Thomas creation. Howard's has nothing to do with chain mail bikinis, and is instead a character in an Ottoman siege on Vienna in the 16th century.

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California the Southern

So, new resins as well as prepaints? Soda Pop is branching out it seems.

That Thark does seem kind of shrimpy in comparison to the humans.

Maniac- do you happen to know how large either of those brands' Tharks are?

I may have to order some. I thought there were a few other companies out there that've made Tharks.

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Bronze Age says they are scaled for 32mm battles, and thus 54mm high. That fits with Burroughs' description of them. I just bought a Carter and a Deja's Thoris stand-in. Both are very well done. Sometime down the road I will get a Thark to paint as Tars Tarkas.

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The Battle Barge Buffet Line

For some reason, I keep feeling like they shouldn't have done a complete figure but rather rather a bust for that Marie Claude.

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 warboss wrote:
For some reason, I keep feeling like they shouldn't have done a complete figure but rather rather a bust for that Marie Claude.


Cause people only care about what's above the waist for Marie Claude ?

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I think both Tarzan and Red Sonja are pretty cool.

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SoCal, USA!

 warboss wrote:
For some reason, I keep feeling like they shouldn't have done a complete figure but rather rather a bust for that Marie Claude.


That'd be quite an impressive bust, I think.

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Epic bust.

While I am always glad to see more REH and ERB stuff on the market, the Thank does seem underwhelming and why in the heck is Sonja standing like that?

Another shout out for the Bronze Age Barsoom line, too. Better Tharks. White Apes and Plantmen, too.
   
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INCOMING!
Soda Pop Miniatures and Ninja Division proudly announce the launch of GUTS, collectible tanks and soldiers to enhance your tabletop gaming. GUTS is designed for fans of World War II, and miniature gaming. Making history fun, collectors young and old, will enjoy painting and playing with the expanding line of GUTS miniatures. Cast in high quality metal and resin, these miniatures will be a joy to collect and paint.
Preorder Today!! http://sodapopminiatures.com/guts


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Wow! Win-win on that release.

Gutz looks fun, and I'm liking the Starfinder minis.
   
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Maybe I'm the only one, WW2 chibis seem to me to be in quite bad taste. But again, maybe it is just me.
   
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 Seneca wrote:
Maybe I'm the only one, WW2 chibis seem to me to be in quite bad taste. But again, maybe it is just me.


I have to admit they make me feel a bit uncomfortable.

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Greece

They look about right, I am sure there is a market for them out there, Advance wars popularity shows the aesthetic is popular, but they would need an interesting game, probably boardgame, for them to sell, I do not think the market is big enouph for them to stand alone, except ,maybe? if they are targeted for Asian market?
   
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 Seneca wrote:
Maybe I'm the only one, WW2 chibis seem to me to be in quite bad taste. But again, maybe it is just me.


It's not just you. It's one thing to have 'cute' soldiers and tanks (lord knows I love me some Advance Wars), but to represent the actual war so 'on-the-nose' like this is quite another. By all means have designs inspired by real-world military (case in point, AW does exactly that), but make up your own nations/factions/etc and background, and put some distance between the silly fun miniatures game and a real-life war that remains in living memory for some, else it can come across highly disrespectful.
   
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 MalusCalibur wrote:

It's not just you. It's one thing to have 'cute' soldiers and tanks (lord knows I love me some Advance Wars), but to represent the actual war so 'on-the-nose' like this is quite another. By all means have designs inspired by real-world military (case in point, AW does exactly that), but make up your own nations/factions/etc and background, and put some distance between the silly fun miniatures game and a real-life war that remains in living memory for some, else it can come across highly disrespectful.
I don't remember anybody complaining about Heroes of Normandie, Rivet Wars, Hogan's Heroes, little green army men, or any of the thousands of disrespectful toys, games, movies, and tv shows that have happened in the past 70 years. Is it disrespectful to set a comedy in a concentration camp? Is it disrespectful to have games where the allies fight supernatural Nazis, like Achtung Cthulhu!, Zombie Army Trilogy, Hellboy, Shadows Over Normandie, Wolfenstein, or you know, Indiana Jones? I think BattleLore has fairly cute figures (dwarves riding on cows), but there's an Agincourt scenario in it. Is that in bad taste too? Is there a time limit on disrespect?

At some point, we, as a culture, have to move on from the past so that we can learn from it and play with its concepts in order to produce new works of art and commerce. These Guts figures aren't worthy of even the mildest outrage. It's open season on WW2 and has been for quite a while.
   
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Norristown, PA

I don't mind the the Gutz minis, I think they look cute.. but my first thought when I saw them was more like they were trying to copy Rivet Wars.

The aliens look pretty sweet though.

 
   
 
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