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 StudentOfEtherium wrote:
damn dude, did Valrak kill your dog or something?

I'm curious who these ultra reliable sources he's copying/stealing from are, because I've not seen any others in years.

Edit: I'm quite serious as well when I say if someone can point me at where he got the info for the killteam, BA and Agents from, I'll start going there and cutting out the middle man. I strongly suspect Irbis cannot source it however.

Let's get back on topic please.

Personally I'm really on the fence right now

The last animation they released the other day was great, honestly a very solid release and I WANT GW to keep doing more.

The models they are doing this time around also all look great.


The problem is I do feel that this last year we got a lot less in content; far fewer videos; less backissue material.
I also don't collect either of the two armies on show in the models.

That said I can accept that GW might be between a rock and a hardplace of "provide more videos" and "we want higher quality, more fps, better audio, better animation etc...". Which means if they lean into quality, that's going to impact the budget for how many they can do.



Right now I feel like I'll likely let my monthly sub roll over into the new year. I'm not thrilled enough to go for it all in one go up front (if they'd done a few animations over the last month or so and had models I collected armies for* then I might well have)



*fully accepting that's a 100% "ME" thing not something that is GW's fault.**

**though I could fault them for doing Imperials again and not another Xeno

Nope, I'm out. Been subbed from the start because WH+ could have been amazing, they're GW, they have access to more material than anyone else, they could have accompanied every release with the kinds of concept art drops and designer's commentary we used to get in White Dwarf. Loremasters could have been an unparalleled resource drawing on decades of material, battle reports could have had massive production values with animated markers or pulling out obscure games from GW's history. the Vault could have been the ultimate archive for material, indexed and tagged for ease of navigation.

But no. I've given GW three years to pull their fingers out, but 310 days without a vault update was the last straw, I waited till today because they teased a preview of what's coming but it's all just inane rubbish:

Ooh there's going to be a pub quiz, how droll

Hobby content beyond just painting, great idea, shame it took you three years to realise not everyone's interested in painting

BL Author interviews, fantastic for anyone who gives a damn about what the authors think. personally I care about *what* was written, not what the author was thinking about when they wrote it, death of the author an' all that.

so yeah, cancelled my sub. Might re-up in a few years and binge the backlog of material that has been added in the interim but it's just not worth it for a model that, while admittedly nice, I won't actually use, and a service where one of the major selling points has been left to rot

Bit of a piss take the yearly subs stayed the same price while the monthly subs went up in the prise rise, it used to be sign up for a year and pay for 10 months get 2 free, now with the monthly subs at £5.99 its pretty much pay for 8 months and get 4 free, how about a bone for us plebs/suckers that pay monthly, you know the ones that pay £21.89 more each year!

Im out, ive heard it all before about how great the service will be, 3 full years later after launching its extremely lackluster especially this last year and after unfairly penalising of monthly subbers with a price increase for only them, im definitely done with the gak show of W+

They were talking about volume, with over 150 new shows. That’s like 3 a week. So we get the regulars, like loremasters and a painting tutorial, and one more each week? That does not sound a lot better then what we have now.

If it wasn’t for the spiffy models I’d be out. But they exists, and Magpie Doc Grotsnik must have his shinies.

Well I half justified sticking around by cancelling my WD sub.

The shift to cheaper printing; the fact that honestly I find I don't really read it much; and honestly its just not an exciting sub. You get a different front cover and that's about it really as perks for subbing. I recall when you got a backpack or free model every so often. Heck they can't even agree on how they bundle their cardstock - sometimes its separate; sometimes its punchout; sometimes you have to cut it out yourself.

So yeah, whilst I love paper written stuff I've dropped the WD

Episode 1 of The Tithes does not feel like the caliber of storytelling GW should be at for going into their third year of insisting they should be doing all this stuff their selves on their own platform. That was a couple of game cutscenes linked together.

I think the animators got reasigned to make ads for plastic models and an episode of secret level on Amazon prime

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
If it wasn’t for the spiffy models I’d be out. But they exists, and Magpie Doc Grotsnik must have his shinies.

My finger was hovering over the cancel button yesterday, but when I factored in the free model, and the access to the 40K app I relented and decided to allow the sub to renew this year.

White Dwarf is definitely for the chop though.

I'll probably subscribe again this year. After overindulging in a couple of Ordo boxes for the recent Imperial Agents release, it would be a shame to pass up the Warhammer+ Inquisitor.

Regarding the subscription.

When GW does updates to the rules (40K specifically) the updates are written into the digital rules as well (for example, the pics and rules showing how a Bloodthirster moves between ruins). If someone does not have a subscription, does this function in the same manner?

Not judging if this is a good or bad business practice but I use the app nearly exclusively while playing the game.

 General Kroll wrote:
I factored in the free model, and the access to the 40K app

This is why I sub. The sub for both apps was $6 USD a month as was, so it was cheaper to just sub to WH+ for an annual fee and get at least one model included.

shadowsfm wrote:
I think the animators got reasigned to make ads for plastic models and an episode of secret level on Amazon prime

the amazon show is a separate production. the WH+ animations would have no relationship to it

 Shakalooloo wrote:

Billicus wrote:
They're both Fantasy Men with Guns which feels like a bit of a retrograde step.

And all BALD.

About time we saw some representation and inclusion for the folicularly challenged IMO.

Sarigar wrote:
Regarding the subscription.

When GW does updates to the rules (40K specifically) the updates are written into the digital rules as well (for example, the pics and rules showing how a Bloodthirster moves between ruins). If someone does not have a subscription, does this function in the same manner? .

freely available PDF downloads on the WarCom website.
https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-40000-downloads/

 Platuan4th wrote:

 General Kroll wrote:
I factored in the free model, and the access to the 40K app

This is why I sub. The sub for both apps was $6 USD a month as was, so it was cheaper to just sub to WH+ for an annual fee and get at least one model included.

Same!

Might be tempted to sub if they included White Dwarf as a digital download, even if it was a month behind.

Plenty of great painting guides online, and more detailed ones for lore on just about anything you would want to know. Then maybe one animation a week. Just not worth it, even with the nice models.

The price increase for monthly and not the yearly is GW catching on to the fact that a lot of people are subscribing for a month, binge watching, then cancelling. Which is something I'll most likely be doing at some point.

I considered subscribing for the first time- then they revealed the models and they're nothing I could need. Maybe next year. Or one quiet month to watch the stuff that's in there.

looks like they've removed The Exodite from Warhammer TV. Score and trailer are still up, actual series has been taken down

That's interesting - has any of the content gone missing before?

I don't think so? Certainly nothing I've noticed

The Exodite was 3rd party created so it might be they had a fall out with the party that created it or only paid for a short term licence?

A shame as whilst it didn't really have any Exodites* in it it was great fun seeing Tau and Imperials fighting


*Yes there's one ranger type character, but no dinos!!

 Skinnereal wrote:

Sarigar wrote:
Regarding the subscription.

When GW does updates to the rules (40K specifically) the updates are written into the digital rules as well (for example, the pics and rules showing how a Bloodthirster moves between ruins). If someone does not have a subscription, does this function in the same manner? .

freely available PDF downloads on the WarCom website.
https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-40000-downloads/

Are you stating it is only available as a separate PDF if you don't have a subscription? My app gets completely updated with all the changes.

Ignore. I asked locals who clarified what they have access to without a subscription.

Weird, The Exodite is back now. oddly specific glitch?

Sarigar wrote:

 Skinnereal wrote:

Sarigar wrote:
Regarding the subscription.

When GW does updates to the rules (40K specifically) the updates are written into the digital rules as well (for example, the pics and rules showing how a Bloodthirster moves between ruins). If someone does not have a subscription, does this function in the same manner? .

freely available PDF downloads on the WarCom website.
https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-40000-downloads/

Are you stating it is only available as a separate PDF if you don't have a subscription? My app gets completely updated with all the changes.

Ignore. I asked locals who clarified what they have access to without a subscription.

Yep, updates happen with or without the subscription. The updates to the app update the database, so the sub only opens up locked content. I had indeed failed to answer your question in that reply.

But the PDFs are there for everyone.

That’s my sub gone out. Looking forward to my free model and the chucking more cash at GW for the other.

Then they can join the others. In their boxes. Still in shrink wrap.

Decided to renew, the annual fee was not as steep as I thought it was and well, the first episode of the Tithes was actually pretty good, I have high hopes for the second one as well now. Just hoping that future vouchers are a bit better than the ones we had last year.

I renewed, and I'm finally painting up the Orruk Ironjawz Warboss that was the exclusive AoS mini for the first year.