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Stay safe UK.

And a reported stabbing just down the road.


Welcome to the second troubles.

 welshhoppo wrote:
And a reported stabbing just down the road.


Welcome to the second troubles.

And this time it's Euro-wide.

Having the army out on the streets seems like less of an overreaction now.

Crazy scary times. Was in London earlier today (Waterloo, Westminster, Charing Cross), heavy armed police presence throughout, but thousands of people as it was such a lovely day... No doubt many many people still in the general area of the incidents.

Update: Appears to be three incidents ongoing

London Bridge: Van hit pedestrians - report of more than one fatality

Borough Market - Reports of stabbings, armed police in attendance and shots fired

Vauxhall - Officers responding to 'incident' in Vauxhall

The live feeds out of london have police clearing the streets, police basically yelling at crowds to get inside for safety and saying if you don't have ballistic protection to take shelter, there was also footage of police making an arrest of one suspect. But the vibe was very much as if there was an active shooter, and this was after the bridge incident and market. One feed of the bridge showed a significant presence of ambulances and riot police.

Jolly Good Times in Old England, eh?

The actions on my street this week would be front page horror if it took place in London. Terrorists? Hardly notice ''em.

Are we going to have a ban on vehicles soon? This gak is getting ridiculous.

 Tactical_Spam wrote:
Are we going to have a ban on vehicles soon? This gak is getting ridiculous.

England is the country that ground all the tips off their knives at one point. My walrus tooth dirk will never be the same.

 BaronIveagh wrote:
Jolly Good Times in Old England, eh?

The actions on my street this week would be front page horror if it took place in London. Terrorists? Hardly notice ''em.

Anyway, hopefully the casualty rate stays low and those responsible are dealt with quickly. Remain vigilant my friends.

 Tactical_Spam wrote:
Are we going to have a ban on vehicles soon? This gak is getting ridiculous.

I'd imagine installing loads of bollards wouldn't be too hard. Expensive, but not hard.

You'd need thousands of them to adequately protect a city like London but it's a start I guess.

There are reports that one or two of the assailants was shot by police and had canisters strapped to his chest. Also reports of people hearing explosions and the police saying they're responsible the detonations, they had to do some controlled detonations of suspicious objects on the bridge itself.






Daily mail has a lot on it http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4569638/Car-ploughs-20-people-London-Bridge.html


the van was a hertz rental it seems

 Crablezworth wrote:
There are reports that one of assailants was shot by police and had canisters strapped to his chest. Also reports of people hearing explosions and the police saying they're responsible the detonations, they had to do some controlled detonations of suspicious objects on the bridge itself.

Spoiler:

By controlled detonations, I'm hoping they mean the murderers' bodies. Don't leave anything of them to be buried.

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:

 Crablezworth wrote:
There are reports that one of assailants was shot by police and had canisters strapped to his chest. Also reports of people hearing explosions and the police saying they're responsible the detonations, they had to do some controlled detonations of suspicious objects on the bridge itself.

Spoiler:

By controlled detonations, I'm hoping they mean the murderers' bodies. Don't leave anything of them to be buried.

In which Shadow Captain Edithae fantasize about commiting Gross Abuse of a Corpse.

They're wearing suicide vests. I hope the Police aren't going to the trouble and extreme risk of trying to remove the vests from the body/still living suicide bomber before detonating. I'd much prefer they just blow him up, even if he is still alive, than risk a Police Officer's life.

Maybe we can at least wait for the blood to dry before engaging in our weird revenge porn fantasies.

I'm broken now. These attacks, all of them, are driving me to depression. I'm just gutted looking at the hopeless situation in front of us. I'm lucky. I live in Northern Ireland were this doesn't happen. I can't imagine what anyone living in London or Manchester or anywhere like that must feel like these days. How do you fight the urge to just stay indoors and give up?

 Crablezworth wrote:
the van was a hertz rental it seems

Ain't that a pun-tastic kick in the fething teeth.

 Future War Cultist wrote:
I'm broken now. These attacks, all of them, are driving me to depression. I'm just gutted looking at the hopeless situation in front of us. I'm lucky. I live in Northern Ireland were this doesn't happen. I can't imagine what anyone living in London or Manchester or anywhere like that must feel like these days. How do you fight the urge to just stay indoors and give up?

Come on over to the good old US of A. We've been relatively free of these types of things

I can see why there’s no US politics topic here anymore, common sense or even basic human compassion are skills lacking in the average Murcin.

I'm old enough to remember the “troubles”, attacks will happen more people will die and nothing will change. In the end it will fizzle out, to be replaced with another group of nutters. Life for 99.99 of us will go on unaffected as always.

I know these attacks wont change us one bit, but the futility of there insanity makes me ******* furious as all the scum before them did. Don’t you know your murderous rampage will be forgotten in a week? remember those guys who came before them.....No, no one does. Their for nothing and achieve nothing. Their dead and we are still here, and not going anywhere.

 cpt_fishcakes wrote:
I can see why there’s no US politics topic here anymore, common sense or even basic human compassion are skills lacking in the average Murcin.

Low blow, dude, low blow.

They're dead and we are still here, and not going anywhere.

You have the stones to tell that to the victims' families?

 cpt_fishcakes wrote:
I can see why there’s no US politics topic here anymore, common sense or even basic human compassion are skills lacking in the average Murcin.

That is nice. Reported.

BTW, the person in this thread calling for detonating bomb vests on live suspects was a fellow countryman of yours, buddy.

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 cpt_fishcakes wrote:
I can see why there’s no US politics topic here anymore, common sense or even basic human compassion are skills lacking in the average Murcin.

Low blow, dude, low blow.

They're dead and we are still here, and not going anywhere.

You have the stones to tell that to the victims' families?

Well tragedy always means more in person, death up close is not a fun thing, I know. But tragedy happens and the rest of us get on with our lives. It happened when the Nazis bombed us, it happened when the IRA bombed us, and it happens now when the weirdy beardys attack us. It hurts but we keep going, thats how you win, don’t stop.

 cpt_fishcakes wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 cpt_fishcakes wrote:
I can see why there’s no US politics topic here anymore, common sense or even basic human compassion are skills lacking in the average Murcin.

Low blow, dude, low blow.

They're dead and we are still here, and not going anywhere.

You have the stones to tell that to the victims' families?

Well tragedy always means more in person, death up close is not a fun thing, I know. But tragedy happens and the rest of us get on with our lives. It happened when the Nazis bombed us, it happened when the IRA bombed us, and it happens now when the weirdy beardys attack us. It hurts but we keep going, thats how you win, don’t stop.

Do I need to explain why conflating Nazis, the IRA and Jihadis doesn't work?

It is a good thing that cursing isn't allowed or this would just be a post containment an assortment of expletives.

My heart is with the family of the victims at this time and letting LE do their thing.

What jerks would do that too?

Arses attacking defensively people in the street. I hope to God justice is served and all these terrorist attacks are horrendous.

heres some more news on it....
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-40147164

And whats with these rude comments guys?

 Future War Cultist wrote:
I'm broken now. These attacks, all of them, are driving me to depression. I'm just gutted looking at the hopeless situation in front of us. I'm lucky. I live in Northern Ireland were this doesn't happen. I can't imagine what anyone living in London or Manchester or anywhere like that must feel like these days. How do you fight the urge to just stay indoors and give up?

Just do what people in the Vasque Country did in the old-ETA days. Don't take more risk than needed, but live your live normally. Those are all horrendous attacks, but as a individual you shoudln't put in them more thought time than the most basic. Just like you aren't going by the streent thinking about the posibility of a car loosing control and killing you. Or a roof tile droping in your head from a building. You don't go to a ruined building or walk in the middle of the road, but thats the max you can do before entering in paranoia.


EDIT: Obviously, the police force should go after those terrorist, don't think I'm saying "Just live with that": I'm talkig what as a civilian you should do.

 Galas wrote:

 Future War Cultist wrote:
I'm broken now. These attacks, all of them, are driving me to depression. I'm just gutted looking at the hopeless situation in front of us. I'm lucky. I live in Northern Ireland were this doesn't happen. I can't imagine what anyone living in London or Manchester or anywhere like that must feel like these days. How do you fight the urge to just stay indoors and give up?

Just do what people in the Vasque Country did in the old-ETA days. Don't take more risk than needed, but live your live normally. Those are all horrendous attacks, but as a individual you shoudln't put in them more thought time than the most basic. Just like you aren't going by the streent thinking about the posibility of a car loosing control and killing you. Or a roof tile droping in your head from a building. You don't go to a ruined building or walk in the middle of the road, but thats the max you can do before entering in paranoia.

Exactly, do not let terror consume you or else they will win. If we all come out to show off that we are not afraid they will lose their weapon and will only become more erratic and irresponsible with their power.

My thoughts are with the victims.

Just got home, the radio was saying reports of explosions on the London Bridge. Very little details though.