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Eziekiel wrote:loving the look of your LRBTS by the way, those gun boats make IG what they are....and basilisks....plently of basilisks

Thanks, EZ! They've always treated me well I'm not a huge fan of the basilisks, the 36" minimum range makes for a lot of gameboard that can't be shot at. Some clever positioning by your opponent and they're pretty much useless.

Eziekiel wrote:also for you sniper teams if you can get your hands on the spotter from the lascannon team (link to gw site http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?prodId=prod1080054)on idividual bases or on a dread base together (three teams of 2, spotter and sniper) they would go very nice together...one spotting ...one shooting !!

Not a bad idea at all, and kind of fits with actual sniper teams. I had thought about magnoculars for the prone guy instead of shooting, and the lascannon guy would make two. Just one more spotter... I'll have to think about it! (I have a Valk to paint and some melta vets to convert before I get back to the snipers anyway )

Eziekiel wrote:ignore my stuff about the spotters ...i missed ur last two posts :S

No worries

Two games tonight at the FLGS! I'm up to 1200 pt games with the 104th Mechanized, with the recent addition of a Vendetta and Melta Vets.

First game versus Tau: Tons of terrain, as you can see!

Highlights
Scout move vendetta, SEIZE THE INITIATIVE!, Melta vets deploy and destroy (I think I just coined a new phrase!) a hammerhead.
Firewarriors take casualties, fail their morale test, and run off the board.
PCS ties up Shadowsun in CC for three rounds.
More firewarriors take casualties, fail their morale test, and run off the board.
Marbo tosses a demo charge and takes out two broadsides and their two drones.
Close call at the end, when a devilfish zoomed in to contest my objective, but didn't quite make it.
Solid Firstborn Victory!

Second game versus Flesh Tearers:
Highlights:
Immobilize one of two stormravens on turn one.
Non-immobilized stormraven dumps Gabriel Seth 1" from my combined squad. Seth assaults, kills six troops, Firsborn miraculously cause 1 wound, then proceed to fail their morale test and a caught in a sweeping advance. Things are not looking good.
My PCS manages to sneak away, and Seth is distracted by the charging ogryn. My Melta Vets line up on the Stormraven, which is when my opponent kindly reminds me that Stormravens are immune to melta effects
The good news is that Battle Cannons are AP3, and Marines start dying by the handful.
The Flesh Tearers are shortly out of scoring units, and my lowly PCS hides behind a wall and secures victory out of a very grim looking game!

That brings the 104th Mechanized to 5-3-1. Not bad, I'd say!

Old game vs Eldar:
Here's a pic, the highlights are a few pages back somewhere.


Ever since I decided to scrap the attached airborne squad, this is what I've been frantically working on:

Melta-vets to ride in the Vendetta! Some work to do on them yet, but nothing a little GS won't fix CC always appreciated!

Thanks for looking,
Rawson

Hey mate, good effort on the melta lads. This is a proper example of "the simple solution is often the best". I was expecting some hardcore hacking up of models but they are looking good.
Are you gonna be adding backpacks? Similar to the ones you agonised over on the original squad?

Axlbush wrote:Hey mate, good effort on the melta lads. This is a proper example of "the simple solution is often the best". I was expecting some hardcore hacking up of models but they are looking good.

Thanks, Axlbush! The only real hacking was to perform the head transplant of the trooper on the right. The rest was pretty simple: just remove the bits that make it look like a lasgun At least with the Vostroyans, their standard lasgun has quite a unique stock, so just dremeling the laspack, and clipping of the barrel are enough. Then pop on a few melta bits, and VOILA!

Axlbush wrote:Are you gonna be adding backpacks? Similar to the ones you agonised over on the original squad?

I know, I really did agonize over them, didn't I? I won't be adding them to these guys (though it would be kind of funny). I'm sure that Airborne squad will see some action someday...

congratz for that nice winning record!


as for the meltas... the conversions looks convincing and pretty good! but could you give us another shot of that one GS head? the fur looks great...how did you do that? it is very good looking and not overdone...looks rather fluffy^^ and even more interresting... would love to see the face...

VICTORY FOR THE IG!!! and im liking the looks of the new airborn, is there a way i can see the face of the gs hat one?

Excellent and simple work on that melta conversion! Keep up the great work!

Cool models and conversions, love your tanks!

Viktor von Domm wrote:congratz for that nice winning record!

Thank you! I'm quite proud of the 104th!

Hmelrose wrote:Excellent and simple work on that melta conversion! Keep up the great work!

Mantle wrote:Cool models and conversions, love your tanks!

Thanks, guys! I appreciate the encouragement!

Viktor von Domm wrote:as for the meltas... the conversions looks convincing and pretty good! but could you give us another shot of that one GS head? the fur looks great...how did you do that? it is very good looking and not overdone...looks rather fluffy^^ and even more interresting... would love to see the face...

Rogue Wolves wrote:VICTORY FOR THE IG!!! and im liking the looks of the new airborn, is there a way i can see the face of the gs hat one?

"Ask and ye shall receive"

It's an Empire outrider head. The cheek guards don't really follow the Vostroyan theme, but they're not too far off, so I left them. The GS hats I make with an exacto knife instead of a sculpting tool. The sharp point makes it easy to make small, raised shapes (like, fur for example). I make small "V"s to create the texture. Hope the pic and explanation were satisfying to all!

Thanks for looking!
Rawson

aaahhh... outrider heads... one of my favorite choces too...! and you did use the skullhead one too!

i think that is an excellent work mate!

Viktor von Domm wrote:aaahhh... outrider heads... one of my favorite choces too...! and you did use the skullhead one too!

i think that is an excellent work mate!

Thank you, Sah! ::salute::

noe onwards to more fellow soldiers worthy to protect the emperor!

Viktor von Domm wrote:noe onwards to more fellow soldiers worthy to protect the emperor!

Or to bed, whichever comes first!

sleep?...now that is too an option...but needs to be rewarded first^^

hehe i know that head well i have quite a few of those! nice choice too

Rogue Wolves wrote:hehe i know that head well i have quite a few of those! nice choice too

Thanks, Rogue!

Bit of a sick day for me: lame to have the flu, but nice to have a guilt free day on the couch painting up the 104th!

Got a handful of the new troops and Marbo based


Got a little assembly line going: first coat of red and even started in on the gold.


Tried out foundation paint for the first time: khemri brown (to be followed by my beloved Kommando Khaki). I was wishing for DSTs new airbrush: the Vendetta is a deceptively big model!


More of a productive day than exciting, but good none the less.

Thanks for looking,
Rawson

without the hoped/wished for airbrush your vendetta looks very good... and i do have to say... with the mouth watering work of dave we all long now for these...

and good work with the assembly line painting...already the hallmarks of the 104th are to be recognized!

oh...and get better soon...that time of the year we all will have to have someor the other form of the flu...my family is currently untroubled...but that can practically be changed within the hour...kids drag everything back home from the kindergarten...it is a thing that would marvel even old papa nurgle...

an airbrush would make your life alot easier, but i had to paint my vendetta the ol' fashion way and it is still one of my favorite models i have painted

Nothing to add, just saying "hi" and still following along.

Skalk Bloodaxe wrote:Nothing to add, just saying "hi" and still following along.

Well, "Hello" to you, too! I guess I can't accuse you of lurking anymore

Hello Dakka!

Yesterday was (in addition to another sick day) productive enough on a painting level. The Firstborn that I've been painting are no longer embarrassing to put on the game table. They aren't done by any means, but I've at least got blood red, shining gold, scorched brown, and elf flesh on them.

I have three issues that I would appreciate bright ideas on (one big one and two little one)

The big issue:
Tuesday was the first time fielding my Vendetta, and the process revealed an engineering oversight on my part: how do I transport this thing?

As you can see, with the current, non-collapsable model, it would take almost an entire tray by itself. I would like to figure out a way to get it in my army case since I usually bike to the FLGS. I have three ideas currently: 1) remove the wings and magnetize them. This is the best option, imo, however I attempted to remove them this morning to no avail. I imagine this would take some serious surgery. 2) Remove the tail and magnetize that. Same idea as the first. Easier to execute, but doesn't free up as much room. Would require cutting off the tail booms just behind the transport bay. 3) Just get a seperate box to carry it in. Not ideal, but saves me from having to hack up the Valk.

The little issues:
First) I cannot for the life of me get the flying stand attachment to stay on the belly of my Valk! I have four pins in it and it still comes off! Any bright ideas?

Second) I picked up CA Marbo last night to start painting him yesterday, but I still don't have a scheme that I'm excited about. I had been thinking about the grey idea from Vik and DST, but wasn't sure on the execution.

Grey jacket, gunmetal armor (washed with Badab, of course), and black camo cloak? That would be sufficiently sneak looking right? He has a "V" with a circle around it on his left shoulder. I was thinking about painting that red and gold to tie him into the Vostroyans.

Thanks for looking!
Rawson

4th option: Modify your bike/carrying option.

For this, we need a pic of your bike. Do you hand carry the case? Do you transport it in a backpack? Do you have panniers/saddlebags or a bike rack?

Hmelrose wrote:4th option: Modify your bike/carrying option.

For this, we need a pic of your bike. Do you hand carry the case? Do you transport it in a backpack? Do you have panniers/saddlebags or a bike rack?

Do you really need a pic of my bike? It's raining outside and it's nice and dry inside I have your standard GW army case with shoulder strap. I just sling it over my back. One Tuesday I borrowed my wife's handlebar basket and put my Valk in that. The problem was that we didn't have any boxes that it would fit in. Either barely too small or massively too big. If I could find the right box, it wouldn't be so hard to modify it to be the permanent carrying method for the Valk.

I got a similiar problem. My ork army is growing and it wont fit in my box anymore. The only thing I can think of is to put some of the vehicles in a back-pack.

Rawson wrote:

Hmelrose wrote:4th option: Modify your bike/carrying option.

For this, we need a pic of your bike. Do you hand carry the case? Do you transport it in a backpack? Do you have panniers/saddlebags or a bike rack?

Do you really need a pic of my bike? It's raining outside and it's nice and dry inside I have your standard GW army case with shoulder strap. I just sling it over my back. One Tuesday I borrowed my wife's handlebar basket and put my Valk in that. The problem was that we didn't have any boxes that it would fit in. Either barely too small or massively too big. If I could find the right box, it wouldn't be so hard to modify it to be the permanent carrying method for the Valk.

Ah, you sling your load. hmm... building a box or case would be an option. Depending on the shape of the bike frame there are a variety of bags and baskets/cases which attach to the frame. If you have a rear fender support you can attach a box or crate to it. If you've got saddlebags or panniers, that could help. the bike racks look like: http://www.rei.com/product/806157/delta-cycle-megarack-super-sherpa-rear-bike-rack-2009-closeout
and can generally be attached one to the front wheel and one to the rear wheel, then you just attach a box to it as needed or get bags which attach to the rack like these:
http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=bike+panniers&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-USfficial&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=6934655593741792711&sa=X&ei=bKQaT_iYIZD1sQKXs8zDCw&ved=0CKUBEPMCMAI

I'd recommend the Valk go into a cardboard box and then into a bike bag if you go that route.

You've already discussed cutting and magnetizing the model. That might be your only option, you'll still need a box though.

the excellent work continues and I stand in awe of your work ethic, Rawson. As for getting your Vendetta to your FLGS, does it not fit into the box it came in? If so, could that not be reinforce with ducttape and some blocks of foam fitted into it to hold said Vendetta in place? I will have a similar problem when my IG army is ready for the battlefield only I have 3 Valks/Vendettas to transport! Like you I cycle to my local wargaming club and I'm thinking to tape one of my Valks to the top of my cycle helmet to let my fellow gamers now who I will be fielding that day!!

As for the Valk... well... you could hand it to em, saves you lots and lots of transport. But you could also indeed get a nice box for it, fill it with foamy stuff, and carry it like that.

As for Marbo... why make him sneaky? Your army doesn't really look like its going to sneak anywheres, so why should he? A Marbo in gala dress uniform could be just as acceptable.

Keep it up, love this stuff so far!!

You need another Valk-sized tray.

dsteingass wrote:You need another Valk-sized tray.

The problem would be still fitting everything else in the case, especially at higher point levels. I do have another army carrier, though with smaller tray sizes. Maybe I carry the smaller stuff in that one to make room in the big one. Worth thinking about...

MauS wrote:As for the Valk... well... you could hand it to em, saves you lots and lots of transport. But you could also indeed get a nice box for it, fill it with foamy stuff, and carry it like that.

As for Marbo... why make him sneaky? Your army doesn't really look like its going to sneak anywheres, so why should he? A Marbo in gala dress uniform could be just as acceptable.

Keep it up, love this stuff so far!!

A lot of the guys at the club keep everything there, but I'm not really feeling that option. It makes the spontaneous hobby evenings tough. I probably will go with the separate box plan. Hacking up the Valk and magnetizing it seems pretty daunting.

Good idea on Marbo! I'll have to think about that one!

butchyboy73 wrote:the excellent work continues and I stand in awe of your work ethic, Rawson. As for getting your Vendetta to your FLGS, does it not fit into the box it came in? If so, could that not be reinforce with ducttape and some blocks of foam fitted into it to hold said Vendetta in place? I will have a similar problem when my IG army is ready for the battlefield only I have 3 Valks/Vendettas to transport! Like you I cycle to my local wargaming club and I'm thinking to tape one of my Valks to the top of my cycle helmet to let my fellow gamers now who I will be fielding that day!!

Hmmm, a Valk helmet. I like it! The box it came in is indeed too small.

Hmelrose wrote:

Rawson wrote:

Hmelrose wrote:4th option: Modify your bike/carrying option.

For this, we need a pic of your bike. Do you hand carry the case? Do you transport it in a backpack? Do you have panniers/saddlebags or a bike rack?

Do you really need a pic of my bike? It's raining outside and it's nice and dry inside I have your standard GW army case with shoulder strap. I just sling it over my back. One Tuesday I borrowed my wife's handlebar basket and put my Valk in that. The problem was that we didn't have any boxes that it would fit in. Either barely too small or massively too big. If I could find the right box, it wouldn't be so hard to modify it to be the permanent carrying method for the Valk.

Ah, you sling your load. hmm... building a box or case would be an option. Depending on the shape of the bike frame there are a variety of bags and baskets/cases which attach to the frame. If you have a rear fender support you can attach a box or crate to it. If you've got saddlebags or panniers, that could help. the bike racks look like: http://www.rei.com/product/806157/delta-cycle-megarack-super-sherpa-rear-bike-rack-2009-closeout
and can generally be attached one to the front wheel and one to the rear wheel, then you just attach a box to it as needed or get bags which attach to the rack like these:
http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=bike+panniers&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-USfficial&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=6934655593741792711&sa=X&ei=bKQaT_iYIZD1sQKXs8zDCw&ved=0CKUBEPMCMAI

I'd recommend the Valk go into a cardboard box and then into a bike bag if you go that route.

You've already discussed cutting and magnetizing the model. That might be your only option, you'll still need a box though.

I hate the idea of spending hobby budget on transportation, and I'll probably make due with what I have before resorting to some crazy bike system. See my thoughts on DSTs comment.

Thanks for all of the input, guys!