Tyranids 2nd Wave Rumours (Actual Updates on Page 29, Pics on Page 31!)

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**Brother SRM**

Gaunts and Stealers have fine kits, these are the first complaints I've seen about them other than "Gaunts' feet break sometimes"

**kirsanth**

Sometimes?!?!

Pffft.

I may have more hormagaunts with broken ankles than without.

**-Loki-**

What the hell do people do to Hormagaunts to have their ankles broken? Short of having a fine game of cricket, using them as the ball.

If all you're doing is moving them around a table, there's no reason for their ankles to break.

**Red Comet**

-Loki- wrote:What the hell do people do to Hormagaunts to have their ankles broken? Short of having a fine game of cricket, using them as the ball.

If all you're doing is moving them around a table, there's no reasin for their ankles to break.

Maybe people press them too hard against the table when they move them? I think that's the problem right there, but the Hormaguants really are too fragile because of the pose.

I had a friend break 4 Hormagaunts once when he was assembling them. I don't get how.

**-Loki-**

I move them by picking them up by the shoulders or tail and never had issues with their ankles while assembling or painting.

Guess I'm just gentle with my models.

**DarkStarSabre**

-Loki- wrote:What the hell do people do to Hormagaunts to have their ankles broken? Short of having a fine game of cricket, using them as the ball.

If all you're doing is moving them around a table, there's no reason for their ankles to break.

When the slot is a bit tight in the base it can cause fractures I've found.

Likewise, if one escapes the table or shelves and a friend happens to step on it...poor Gaunt is good as gone. At least SMs are rather chunky and easy to repair in that regard.

**-Loki-**

I admit I had issues with the slot being a bit of a tight fit, but I just used a knife to scrape the inside of the slot to make it fit better.

And really, if someone steps on any model, it's going to break to peices. I stepped on a Dark Eldar warrior, and it broke at the ankles, knees, waise, neck, shoulders, elbows and wrists.

It never got put back together.

**Earthbeard**

It's only some of the Hormagaunts that have the issue of snappy ankle, same as battlesuits and the sponsons on marine tanks....just a poor design overall.

But otherwise they are a solid kit, that stands the test of time.

**Surtur**

Holy crap, was he suffering from severe arthritis? How do you break a model at every joint at once?

**kirsanth**

Perhaps I should stop mentioning their ankles and blame the fact that I have foam + soft case for carrying them.

They are the only real casualties though.

**-Loki-**

Surtur wrote:Holy crap, was he suffering from severe arthritis? How do you break a model at every joint at once?

Did you miss the part where I said I stepped on it?

I actually stepped back, so all my weight was on the ball of my foot as I stepped on it. Sounded like I was standing on a pile of rice bubbles.

**Kroothawk**

So according to Darnok's bird, we will see paints, tervigon and Wolves in March and the preorder end of March??
He even insists on "end of March".
Doesn't make sense. Esp. as stores were told to expect info on new paints end of March, so paints will be likely in April.
And the Hive tyrant gone indicates a new Hive tyrant box soon.

Here some more confusing and contradicting rumours, we will see next week what is true:

BramGaunt wrote:Darnok,
Preorders for all of this are supposed to go up at the 25th of february, since that's GWs big Party surprise. 25 Years of 40k, paints, and two kits for two armies? Here we go!
(...)
March's product is the new paint range. Thunderwolves and the Tervigon are more like a bonus, not an actual release.

BramGaunt, so is this all for Tyranids this year?

I honestly don't know. With that much ready for release as the R-team already told us, I seriously doubt that's all the chitin and claws we'll see thins year. Though it may also mean they are aiming for new Codex in the nearer future? But that's only speculation on my side.
(...)
As far as I know, and please take it with salt, the shades of all colors currently available will remain the same, only names and quality change. I only got this second-handed, though, so please don't take it for granted.

straightsilver wrote:Well I am not sure about Thunderwolves, doesn't mean they aren't coming, just that I haven't heard about them yet.

However I am pretty sure there will be some new 40K goodies to go up on pre-order on 25th Feb.

Tyranids is a distinct possibility.

Last I heard the Tervigon would be a dual kit with a previously unheard of beastie which would get rules in WD (like the Eldar Night Spinner).

It's quite possible that this could be the WD on 25th, which is the March one?

If the Tervigon gets released then there is no reason to hold back Thunderwolves so they could feature in the same WD but go up for pre-order later.
(...)
AFAIK there will be releases for a couple of 40K armies in the March WD which goes on sale 25th Feb, so we should see some pics in thenext week or so.

I had it as 'Nids and 'Crons, but it is just as possible there might be some Space Wolf stuff coming, if so it has been kept very quiet.

stiggie wrote:My local store told me about the new store layout plans (or whatever their proper term is).

He was told that on it he had to make space for 3 different large (tank/trygon) sized spaces for tyranids. It didn't have any info on what they were etc just that he had to make space for them, So I Doubt there's just the tervigon coming out for nids...

BramGaunt wrote:I don't want to destroy hope and I definatly don't say "there won't be any more kits than the Tervigon", but stores are usually requiered to present new boxes multiple times. Just saying, fingerscrossed for more then one!

**-Loki-**

You're a page late Kroothawk

**Surtur**

-Loki- wrote:
Surtur wrote:Holy crap, was he suffering from severe arthritis? How do you break a model at every joint at once?

Did you miss the part where I said I stepped on it?

I actually stepped back, so all my weight was on the ball of my foot as I stepped on it. Sounded like I was standing on a pile of rice bubbles.

No I caught that, I've just never seen a model break that severely. Was it one of the old spikdar?

**kirsanth**

kirsanth wrote:So we get to hope the next wave includes a codex?

BramGaunt wrote:I seriously doubt that's all the chitin and claws we'll see thins year. Though it may also mean they are aiming for new Codex in the nearer future? But that's only speculation on my side.

I was kidding.

Although. . . /ponder

Editing the quote:
Ooops, sorry Kroothawk.

**Kroothawk**

-Loki- wrote:You're a page late Kroothawk

Not really. I read your post that quoted two lines, then added my comment of scepticism and the dozen other lines you didn't quote

BTW, tomorrow I will finish my third non-GW tervigon and my two non-GW tyrannofexes, with a fourth non-GW Tervigon and Nemesis on the way

Won't stop me to buy the GW models though if they are decent.

@kirsanth: Please check your quotes on who said what

**-Loki-**

Surtur wrote:
-Loki- wrote:
Surtur wrote:Holy crap, was he suffering from severe arthritis? How do you break a model at every joint at once?

Did you miss the part where I said I stepped on it?

I actually stepped back, so all my weight was on the ball of my foot as I stepped on it. Sounded like I was standing on a pile of rice bubbles.

No I caught that, I've just never seen a model break that severely. Was it one of the old spikdar?

Yeah, one of the old Dark Eldar warriors from the 3rd edition starter.

**Sasori**

The Anticipation is killing me. I miss our early WD leaks...

**-Loki-**

Yeah, I'm getting antsy. I was planning on dropping an order at Dicebucket in a couple of weeks for a pair of Trygons, but if the Tervigon is a dual kit with a Tyrannifex, I might have to change that for one Trygon and a pair of Tervigons.

**sn0zcumb3r**

I'm guessing that the Tervigon will be a dual kit with WD new monster, which I am also guessing is a Horvigon
There, I called it!

**-Loki-**

Original rumour was the new beast 'fills a gap the Tyranids always had'. The only gap they've had in 40k is a ground transport, now that Rupture Cannons add long range anti tank.

**Surtur**

Who knows, maybe the trygon will actually be a tri set with all 3! D: Clever GW, I see what you did there.

**MajorWesJanson**

sn0zcumb3r wrote:I'm guessing that the Tervigon will be a dual kit with WD new monster, which I am also guessing is a Horvigon
There, I called it!

All that would require is a new entry in WD, and say 3 pieces of spawning Hormagaunts instead of Termigants. I can see it happening.

**Andilus Greatsword**

-Loki- wrote:I admit I had issues with the slot being a bit of a tight fit, but I just used a knife to scrape the inside of the slot to make it fit better.

And really, if someone steps on any model, it's going to break to peices. I stepped on a Dark Eldar warrior, and it broke at the ankles, knees, waise, neck, shoulders, elbows and wrists.

It never got put back together.

Honestly, I've stepped on my Hormagaunts a few times and they've survived unscathed.

**Absolutionis**

I'm surprised that everyone is talking about the fragility of the Hormagaunts when the bigg(er/est) issue I've had with them in their lack of balance. My Tippygaunts were the main reason I ended up putting 1" washers underneath every model I own.

-Loki- wrote:Original rumour was the new beast 'fills a gap the Tyranids always had'. The only gap they've had in 40k is a ground transport, now that Rupture Cannons add long range anti tank.

Hive Guard also fill that anti-light-tank role.

Regardless, the Tyranid transport really is the niche/archetype that Tyranids (proudly?) always had. Damn the armor, send bodies over bullets.
I hope that the rumor you're talking about isn't one of those BoK or ghost21 rumors.

**Fat_Little_Ripper**

sn0zcumb3r wrote:I'm guessing that the Tervigon will be a dual kit with WD new monster, which I am also guessing is a Horvigon
There, I called it!

You wouldn't be the first to suggest a Horvigon, as I did the same back on page 18 of this thread and I actually came across the concept at Warp Shadow. That being said a Tervigon/Horvigon/Tyrannofex kit would make since.

**Absolutionis**

To be honest, converting a Tervigon to a Horvigon-ish-thing would be a tremendously simple conversion. Even if GW were planning on making WD rules for it (unlikely), it would be a welcome but unnecessary set of bits in the Tervigon ket.

The Tervigon model is mostly needed because all the potential conversions end up looking like a fat Carnifex or a legged Trygon. The lack of distinguishing bits is a huge problem. Converting a Termie-Factory into a Hormie-Factory wouldn't look too odd.

**-Loki-**

Absolutionis wrote:Regardless, the Tyranid transport really is the niche/archetype that Tyranids (proudly?) always had. Damn the armor, send bodies over bullets.
I hope that the rumor you're talking about isn't one of those BoK or ghost21 rumors.

it was started by the White Dwarf editor who mentioned it at games day. Pretty sure it wasn't ghost21 or BoK that expanded on it either.

**FabricatorGeneralMike**

Earthbeard wrote:It's only some of the Hormagaunts that have the issue of snappy ankle, same as battlesuits and the sponsons on marine tanks....just a poor design overall.

But otherwise they are a solid kit, that stands the test of time.

Yeppers XV-8 suit ankles suck big time. Mine usually broke in my carrying case. I swear every singe one I owned in my army had a pin through the ankle and leg. I got real good at aiming my pin vice though, and using GS/putty to fill in the drill holes I umm miscalculaited on.

**-Loki-**

Again - I had a friend who played Tau a lot in 3rd edition, and had almost a dozen suits of various configurations as well as Broadsides. He transported them in a carbord box between layers of egg crate foam. In 2 years of heavy gaming, none of them ever snapped at the ankles.