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This makes me sad, the video makes them look unprepared, the fact the box contents still do not display at least the proper amount of miniatures is bad, also its their prime time to redo their old miniatures, I will say it again this is plastic molds they are after, why not put the extra effort and make them great?

Also, since when the CCG judge became a Stretch Goal?

 Alpharius wrote:
I pulled my pledge a while back on this one for a variety of reasons.

I've seen the models in person at Adepticon now and I won't be getting back in.

I do wish them all the best with this one though!

Can I have your free model?

Also, Tango and Cash? That reference is so sweet it almost makes me want to pledge $10 again. If they threw in a Hudson Hawk...

 Alpharius wrote:
I pulled my pledge a while back on this one for a variety of reasons.

I've seen the models in person at Adepticon now and I won't be getting back in.

I do wish them all the best with this one though!

Well that says it all really if seeing it in person doesn't change your mind then there is definitely something just not appealing to those that weren't already Mercs fans.

On that basis I'm out pulled my pledge (not that my $1 is contributing much anyway)

Thanks Alpharius

Yeah I'm out as well, ah well. I figure I can just pick up the EU Inc started box when it comes out, I still think they'd make great Fusiliers for Infinity lol. But I'm really more of a boardgame guy, and I've decided the game isn't really for me. That said I hope they're successful, more games and choices is always better for us consumers ^^

Looking at Sentinels of the Multiverse Tactics and SDE to scratch my boardgame with minis KS itch for now.

 Alpharius wrote:
I pulled my pledge a while back on this one for a variety of reasons.

I've seen the models in person at Adepticon now and I won't be getting back in.

I do wish them all the best with this one though!

You forgot the italics.

 yamato wrote:


They've teased again about some cool stuff to be released once it gets to 365k,.... But it sounds like a "Tango and Cash" add on,..... I'm not so sure that these pulp add ons are driving any real movement (they don't do much for me).

There are 5-10 guys on the comments page who will orgasm in delight over 'Tango and Cash'. Otherwise, I suspect folks would like to see already unlocked factions get more of their figures to bring them up to the full 10 figs they should be. I doubt these figs will get enough extra backers to help, and as a free stretch goal or a paid add on I doubt they get too much extra funds from folks already pledged.

 Alpharius wrote:
I pulled my pledge a while back on this one for a variety of reasons.

I've seen the models in person at Adepticon now and I won't be getting back in.

I do wish them all the best with this one though!

Alph, can you talk objectively about what you saw, why you won't be getting back in? Also, any chance at pictures of their stuff?

Edited to include:

Broke $365k. Tango and Cash at $385. Terrible names though. And please don't don't let Cash look as bad as the art...

ED-209 looks great, and should have been the freebie. Much more inline with the near-future level of this game. I think he'll sell well though, and gives us our SecFor 4+ to look forward to.

I quite like all the cameo minis & the ED-209 mini is cool but I can understand the calls for more Mercs minis to supplement the ones you get with Recon and convert to plastic.

I wouldn't worry too much yet I think this will bust the 500k mark and there will be more unlocks after that which may include the Mercs that I can even see the sense in having, especially pledging at Opfor level.

Once this gets to 400k I think it will start to gather momentum because as others have mentioned "the deal isn't irresistible" at this point but once 400k is broken I think it starts to move into this territory.

Apparently there is also more info coming on mission cards and movement.

The ED-209 is cool. I wanted to see more of that kind of stuff from the get go.

Of course, I also would have liked to see it offered as a stretch goal... but that's just me.

I would think most everyone likes to get big chunky free models.

I am not seeing an ED-209 mini. Where be it?

It be here:

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
It be here:

That's not a mini, that is a drawing.

Honestly another set of homage figures that don't fit in the game and another robocop tie in that reminds where the art direction should have been headed.

Been a while since I saw Robocop, but wasn't the big robot for patrolling streets/neighborhoods for the most part? I can't see it being to useful inside an office building.

It's Ok you just have to run up/down the stairs problem solved

Yes, but in both the old and new movies, they had ED-209 fight Robocop indoors I believe. Plus, ED-209 fits in with the theme of Mercs far better than any of the other non-Robocop homages so far.


I'm really hoping to hear some firsthand info from Alpharius, see what his impression of the game/company was. I'm really shocked that there isn't a news/rumor thread for Adepticon and everything there. Also surprised nobody else on Dakka stopped by the Mercs booth so far. Guess everyone is playing games!

 Salacious Greed wrote:
Yes, but in both the old and new movies, they had ED-209 fight Robocop indoors I believe.

You would be correct.

I am mainly interested in the KS for the minis to use for sci-fi RPGs, but at this point it still isn't an irresistible deal. If it hits 400k I may reevaluate, but I think it would have to hit 500k to make it enough minis to be worth it, and I am not sure that will happen.

 Ahtman wrote:

 Salacious Greed wrote:
Yes, but in both the old and new movies, they had ED-209 fight Robocop indoors I believe.

You would be correct.

I am mainly interested in the KS for the minis to use for sci-fi RPGs, but at this point it still isn't an irresistible deal. If it hits 400k I may reevaluate, but I think it would have to hit 500k to make it enough minis to be worth it, and I am not sure that will happen.

If you only want the KS for RPG minis then at the agent pledge level if this hits 400k it would give you 78 minis = $1.54 each making for some very cheap minis. Plus you get the floor tiles for the RPG, would seem a no brainer to me for your purpose.

I can understand the irresistible bit coming in at 500k though. Would get 95 minis = $1.26 each.

Yeah, I'll agree with that. If you're just after sci-fi RPG stuff and you like or even don't mind the aesthetic, it's not a bad deal.

I'm not liking their attitude, it has to be said - but the core still looks interesting. Has anyone gone through the myth rules yet - I've heard concerns about readability and quality there.

Bioptic wrote:
I'm not liking their attitude, it has to be said - but the core still looks interesting. Has anyone gone through the myth rules yet - I've heard concerns about readability and quality there.

Everything you've heard about the Myth rules readability and quality is true. I've attempted to play the game multiple times already..

With all the fan-rules it has some highly limited replay value.

That said, please try not to say the word "Negative", or anything even slightly criticizing of Megacon Games or their products such as Recon.

It has a tendency to get the kickstarter comments and Megacon forums rustled and unproductive, with broad comments insulting the Dakka.

Sounds like a good reason to poke at them with a bit of negativity...



I have seen the KS comments slam on Board Game Geek quite a bit (both the creators and fan guys) but I must have missed when they insulted Dakka.

Really the creators too?

Yeah, nothing too bad though. Something along the lines of "We realized how useless it was to answer questions on BGG because all the folks there wanted to do was argue'. That is a paraphrase of at least 2-3 KS comments I caught.

I think it had to do mostly with a few BGG members hitting them hard on Myth, but I personally have not read any of the Myth stuff on BGG so it is just an assumption. Part of me sees their point, getting hammered for having released something which is negatively received by some very vocal folks, while you are trying to get funding for a new project, can't be much fun.

Of course, they did kind of bring it on themselves...

Yes, the creators and backers both want no more whining about the Myth rulebook, but they're both touting that Megacon will have the rules "fixes" out before Recon ends, and talking about it in the Recon comments. So, what they really want is to have their cake and eat it too, without any Debbie Downers raining on their parade. "As that is counter-productive to talking about all the Mercs awesomeness."

They got a big boost yesterday from ED-209, but again just a handful of backers. Nothing new for a weekend, but not seeing a peep out of anyone from Adepticon besides Alpharius. I'm still hoping to get some opinions from folks who stopped by, demoed or just looked at Recon and talked to the Megacon guys. Because it's all sunshine and rainbows from Megacon about how the weekend is going. But it was kind of damning that Alpharius wouldn't consider pushing money across the counter for Recon.

I'll give it a few more days to see if Salsa and Chips SG sets this KS on fire again...

Lets be honest here, the only time this KS was on fire was the first two days.

So does anyone know if the "rules fixes" for Myth will be a published errata, a reprinted rulebook or what? Really, ti sounds like they got burnt the same way that Sedition Wars did - only using internal esting of the rules because they thought they were hot gak, and then it turned out that all those apparently annoying entitled bastards on BGG actually will break your rules and point out all of the obvious faults in your rules that you're too close/blind to see.

They should be releasing their full beta rules for this game to as well so the BGG crew can tear them apart - so they don't end up like the "totally awesome" Myth...

They should, the more people tear your rules apart before printing, the better they are when the financial commitment is done.

 Azazelx wrote:
So does anyone know if the "rules fixes" for Myth will be a published errata, a reprinted rulebook or what? Really, ti sounds like they got burnt the same way that Sedition Wars did - only using internal esting of the rules because they thought they were hot gak, and then it turned out that all those apparently annoying entitled bastards on BGG actually will break your rules and point out all of the obvious faults in your rules that you're too close/blind to see.

They should be releasing their full beta rules for this game to as well so the BGG crew can tear them apart - so they don't end up like the "totally awesome" Myth...

Az,

No idea. I heard it stated that all the ROW shipments would have a corrected rulebook in it. But no idea if they are sending all the US backers a new one. They posted that there would be a couple or three of "How to play" and "getting started" type pdfs released here soon I believe.

They have decided to make sure they aren't "too" close to the rules this time with Recon. They advertised on a fan FB page that is local to Indianapolis for people to come down and playtest Recon. So one guy posted that he went down, and they spent 3 hours reading the rules and playing one game. They said it went smoothly for the rules. But he didn't comment on if he liked it as a game. Just that they had no rules questions playing a very basic run through.

I find it very humorous that they believe they are going to get people who don't know anything about the Mercs TT game by advertising for playtesters on a Mercs TT fansite. They need to go to a mall and have soccer moms see if they can figure out how to play the game. If not, they need to hit the drawing board again.

While that's a start, it's not nearly the same as letting the BGG crowd have a look at and readthrough of the rules in their homes at their leisure, though.