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**plastictrees**

I'd even play her as a Djan in QK depending on what she's carrying (looks like a Combi unfortunately).
Obviously those sunglasses provide MSV2....

**Tristan228**

I don't get it, why all this fuss about the ABHs? All this "OMG why aren't he accessible for everyone?" and "CB is so mean!". That's kindergarten level!

If I read the profiles of the ABHs I can't see any additional benefit in them worth enough to swich from my sectorial to the general fraction.
ABHs are basically Line Troops without providing a regular order. A Morlock equipped with a BS can do that job better and also provides useful smoke to my army costing the same as the cheapest ABH equipped with a BS too.
Also since the most tourneys allow a Spec-Ops (access to MSR, HMG, Spitfire) even the special weapon ABHs are kind of useless and overpriced.

**plastictrees**

It's really not about ABH's (or that much fuss honestly).
It's just about the accesibility of official models for certain unique profiles.

Are we expecting miniature releases or just HS3 pre-order/release next month?

**-Loki-**

Red Harvest wrote:
Nobody plays Druze, nobody.

I play Druze

They're not great, but I love the models and fluff enough to use them. I just wish in QK their AVA was 5, I'm still not a fan of Hafza fillers. I hope they get a redo in HSN3 though, as their fluff and rules are pretty weirdly different. Their fluff paints them as take no prisoners badasses that give no gaks as they walk up, kick the doors in and start shooting. However, in the game they're slow, high ARM with X-visors that let them shoot from further away, making them better at bunkering down in cover and shooting from afar? Yeah, fix the rules CB so those lovely models get fielded more.

**SlaveToDorkness**

It's official, Loki is a nobody!

Bleh, I don't know what else they would put in as a LE model. If they made them models a particular faction was clamoring for (UUUUUUUUUUUUUknow what I'm talking about...) then the same people would be bitching about that too.

**Kanluwen**

plastictrees wrote:
It's really not about ABH's (or that much fuss honestly).
It's just about the accesibility of official models for certain unique profiles.

Are we expecting miniature releases or just HS3 pre-order/release next month?

HSN3 preorder goes live on March 28th, the preorder period should be a month long.

There will likely be limited releases rather than a large number of them.

**.Mikes.**

Is HSN3 going to be available as a PDF on the CB site like the N3 rulebook?

**PsychoticStorm**

Yes.

**Kanluwen**

.Mikes. wrote:
Is HSN3 going to be available as a PDF on the CB site like the N3 rulebook?

The rules will be.

When? No idea.

**Red Harvest**

-Loki- wrote:
Red Harvest wrote:
Nobody plays Druze, nobody.

I play Druze

They're not great, but I love the models and fluff enough to use them. I just wish in QK their AVA was 5, I'm still not a fan of Hafza fillers. I hope they get a redo in HSN3 though, as their fluff and rules are pretty weirdly different. Their fluff paints them as take no prisoners badasses that give no gaks as they walk up, kick the doors in and start shooting. However, in the game they're slow, high ARM with X-visors that let them shoot from further away, making them better at bunkering down in cover and shooting from afar? Yeah, fix the rules CB so those lovely models get fielded more.

Nice selective editing of my post. They are some sharp looking minis, but so much meh in game.

**-Loki-**

SlaveToDorkness wrote:
It's official, Loki is a nobody!

Bleh, I don't know what else they would put in as a LE model. If they made them models a particular faction was clamoring for (UUUUUUUUUUUUUknow what I'm talking about...) then the same people would be bitching about that too.

We've gotten several faction specific LE models - Joan of Arc with Angels book (PanO), alternate Van Zant and dismounted Maverick as gencon preorders (Ariadna), heavy armour Yuan Yuan with Battlefoam bags (Qapu Khalki), 10th anniversary Achilles (Aleph). If they kept with these rather than going with authorised bounty hunters or other generic models, there's another 7 faction specific limited edition models they could have made (alternate Le Muet, Miranda, GoGo, sniper ABH, Max Scorpio, heavy armour ABH, Krakot). More than enough to give every faction a limited edition model and then some.

**SlaveToDorkness**

But, having a useful profile tied up as a LE model makes it harder to get.

**Chillreaper**

Barring the odd mini (say, Go-Go Marlene), they're not exactly hard to get hold of around the time of release.

Despite my initial panic about the Angel Giraldez book, I ended up with two copies of it (gave one away), a friend gave his Joan of Arc mini away to someone that was interested in it.

Even without trying, you can get these things. GenCon release mini? Order it from CB. Another friend of mine did that with Van Zant.

I've come to the conclusion that if people really want these LE minis, then the only way that they won't be able to is if they've seriously messed up their karma.

**.Mikes.**

Kanluwen wrote:
.Mikes. wrote:
Is HSN3 going to be available as a PDF on the CB site like the N3 rulebook?

The rules will be.

When? No idea.

Cheers mate.

**Knight**

Tristan228 wrote:
ABHs are basically Line Troops without providing a regular order. A Morlock equipped with a BS can do that job better and also provides useful smoke to my army costing the same as the cheapest ABH equipped with a BS too.
Also since the most tourneys allow a Spec-Ops (access to MSR, HMG, Spitfire) even the special weapon ABHs are kind of useless and overpriced.

Not everyone gets a warband, plays with spec ops, or something remotely interesting for cheap. They're not a reason to branch out, especially, if you play almost complete sectorial such as Corregidor or NCA (CSU). Personally also allow ABH to skip rolling on table, if they have equipment already presentable (ARM and motorcycle for instance). Part of me wonders, if PanO might eventually face the same design problem as Cygnar. Most of good options are gained through mercenaries, resulting in an army that has little to do with classic faction models.

**Absolutionis**

Chillreaper wrote:
Despite my initial panic about the Angel Giraldez book, I ended up with two copies of it (gave one away), a friend gave his Joan of Arc mini away to someone that was interested in it.

Even still, the mini is available to this day: http://www.thewarstore.com/product105949.html
Rather, it's "on order", but it's not as exclusive as everyone was thinking it would be primarily because it got a second reprint of both the book and model. Perhaps it's even a third wave now...?

Meanwhile, I'm still whining about the $80 renovated YuanYuan model that was bundled with a tumor and yet was a better model than the originals. Hopefully the upcoming Mercs will give them a resculpt and obsolete the special edition model.

**jamopower**

Shockingly many people just like to collect the minis even if they are not that great on the battlefield. I love the bounty hunter (and other mercenary) minis as they bring a great amount of character in to the background. As they are equipped with different faction gear it ties the world together. The different super powers trade their gear to eachother and the mercenaries live among different nations and pick up stuff from there.

**Tristan228**

plastictrees wrote:
[...]
It's just about the accesibility of official models for certain unique profiles. [...]

I think a bigger issue is that there are still certain unique profiles without a corresponding model yet like the Clausewitz Uhlans or Tikbalangs.

Also something I found on FB, Taskmasters seem to be a thing in HS:

**IJW**

-Loki- wrote:
SlaveToDorkness wrote:
It's official, Loki is a nobody!

Bleh, I don't know what else they would put in as a LE model. If they made them models a particular faction was clamoring for (UUUUUUUUUUUUUknow what I'm talking about...) then the same people would be bitching about that too.

We've gotten several faction specific LE models - Joan of Arc with Angels book (PanO), alternate Van Zant and dismounted Maverick as gencon preorders (Ariadna), heavy armour Yuan Yuan with Battlefoam bags (Qapu Khalki), 10th anniversary Achilles (Aleph). If they kept with these rather than going with authorised bounty hunters or other generic models, there's another 7 faction specific limited edition models they could have made (alternate Le Muet, Miranda, GoGo, sniper ABH, Max Scorpio, heavy armour ABH, Krakot). More than enough to give every faction a limited edition model and then some.

Within the context of LE models released with unrelated products (a USAriadna model in a USAriadna box isn't really the same thing) there's just Joan. When the Yuan Yuan came out, anybody but Combined could field them outside of ITS events.

**Knight**

Few logos from new units were spotted recently. Bakunin, JSA, CA (Samartian and something new), Steel Phalanx, Blackjacks and Haqq.

**AndrewGPaul**

IJW wrote:
When the Yuan Yuan came out, anybody but Combined could field them outside of ITS events.

Still can, if your opponent agrees. Admittedly that erratum is buried in the depths of the forum, but it's in the Mercenary troops page of the wiki too. It's more widely useable in 3rd edition than in 2nd, since it's no longer prohibited to Yu Jing armies, and Qapu Khalki can use it too.

**Kanluwen**

Knight wrote:
Few logos from new units were spotted recently. Bakunin, JSA, CA (Samartian and something new), Steel Phalanx, Blackjacks and Haqq.

Blackjacks have been known since the USARF box.

**Pumpkin**

Pumpkin wrote:
I do wish they'd implement the order ALEPH Toolbox used to use, though, which I believe was to order the units in average point-cost order, within unit types. So, LI listed from cheapest to most expensive, then MI, etc. Don't know how other people got on with it, but it made it even easier for my brain to parse than alphabetical order, thanks to the order having a meaniingful context.

Actually, I partially retract that statement. Can't believe I didn't realise before, but ordering units first by Type (LI, MI, etc.) and second by Classification (Line Troop, Elite, etc.) gets you pretty similar results. Not quite the same, especially if you have a lot of troops within a certain Classification, but it's still pretty handy!

**SlaveToDorkness**

I just wish you could enter a filter of a specific point value or less not just the value.

**Pumpkin**

SlaveToDorkness wrote:
I just wish you could enter a filter of a specific point value or less not just the value.

You can!

See the = signs next to the Points and SWC buttons at the top? Press those to switch between =, <= and >=.

Seems to be slightly borked at the moment - not quite returning accurate results for me - but at least it's in there, and it'll be useful when it's fixed!

**Red Harvest**

Uhm....

So a Gorgos on one cover and a Father-Knight on the other and the slip cover... and no confirmation of the exclusive mini...

**SlaveToDorkness**

Pumpkin wrote:
SlaveToDorkness wrote:
I just wish you could enter a filter of a specific point value or less not just the value.

You can!

See the = signs next to the Points and SWC buttons at the top? Press those to switch between =, <= and >=.

Seems to be slightly borked at the moment - not quite returning accurate results for me - but at least it's in there, and it'll be useful when it's fixed!

Pumkin, thank you SO much!

**Henshini**

http://www.infinitythegame.com/article.php?id=170

Human Sphere N3 is coming!

By Carlos Llauger Lorenzo AKA Bostria

At last! It is shaping in, in paper, as something you can touch. It wasn’t fast nor easy. During the whole duration of 2015 we have been redesigning, improving and optimizing the game and its miniatures range, bringing it up to match the new N3 standard. But here we are, at the beginning of 2016, with the printers at full capacity, bringing the first expansion of the third edition of Infinity: Human Sphere N3.

As the majority of the Infinity veterans know, the game experienced a revolution in 2014 with the release of the “Operation: Icestorm” Battle Box followed by the release of Infinity N3. A move planned by Corvus Belli back in 2012 with a lot of work in the process. Not only the rules and system improved, but also the miniatures experienced a true artistic revolution by establishing a new and higher quality standard.

Oh, yes… it attracted lots of players and Infinity collectors, so it seemed obvious that all the Infinity universe was put under the same level of N3, both in rules, profiles and the new sculpting level too. Something way easier said than done.

Truth was that a range of more than 600 miniatures, with their weapons, skills and quirks cannot be transitioned from N2 to N3 in a heartbeat. So we decided that 2015 would be a transition year on which the players would enjoy the third edition of rules and a mathematical update of all the troop costs available via the Infinity Army and the downloadable PDF on the website.

Obviously, the keen eyed saw that the N3 troops hadn’t received the improvements when compared to the troops outside the Basic Book. The troops belonging to other Infinity expansions just had a recalculated cost, were updated but not optimized. Let me explain: Yu Jing’s Hac Tao, a troop from the Basic Book of N3, improved as a troop in many aspects, while Haqqislam’s Bashi Bazouk, that belonged to the “Human Sphere” expansion book had only a variation in Cost.

Well, it has finally arrived, the moment of optimization. With “Human Sphere N3” the troop profile, and to keep with the same example here, of the Bashi Bazouk will be optimized following the N3 rules, now they will have more possibilities. They will have “Surprise Shot” and other fun stuff. That is just a sample of what is coming to all the troops and armies.
ALEPH and Tohaa were back on the day the new factions introduced on the Infinity expansions, now they are back with more troops and options than before.

And don’t forget about USAriadna and the First Contact Onyx Force: the new armies coming on Human Sphere N3, new tactics and enemies to face on the game table.

Next Monday March 28th the pre-order period for the “Human Sphere N3” book starts, and it comes with a free miniature! The thematic week on Beasts of War starts on Monday and it will bring lots of information about the contents of the book. We are indeed living days of joy, big news and crazy eagerness to enjoy the most balanced, flexible and tactical game in the market!

**Pumpkin**

SlaveToDorkness wrote:
Pumpkin wrote:
SlaveToDorkness wrote:
I just wish you could enter a filter of a specific point value or less not just the value.

You can!

See the = signs next to the Points and SWC buttons at the top? Press those to switch between =, <= and >=.

Seems to be slightly borked at the moment - not quite returning accurate results for me - but at least it's in there, and it'll be useful when it's fixed!

Pumkin, thank you SO much!

No probs!

**Pacific**

Many thanks for posting that guys, can't wait for this!

Any news on what retailers are going to be carrying the pre-order as they did for the N3 release?