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These models are amazing. I can literally hardly contain myself. I had sworn off 40k...the only 40K related purchase I've made in the past 5 years was the re-release of Space Hulk in 2014 and then Deathwatch: Overkill. I haven't purchased a 40K rulebook since 5th edition.
This release has brought me back to my 13 year-old self and White Dwarf issue 116. GW has been pushing all the right nostalgia buttons this year and I am finally relenting. I never thought this would happen, but this is actually bringing me back to 40k, and I will be collecting my first 40K army in a long time.
Just talking out loud. It's a guess. Let's see, Betrayal at Calth supposed to sell like hot cakes. Yes GW profits went down until computer game licenses basically saved them. Who ever thought Plants vs Zombies 40K would save them.
So much hype for Deathwatch. HUGE time. But why are they not being talked about now? It's almost like they never existed on the threads. Where is the excitement for them now? You would think people clamouring for this, there would still be lots of threads in the 40K section about them, playing them. Don't see it so maybe they are not as popular as people claimed. I am sure it sold a lot, but maybe not the "saviour" that would save 40K if they ever came out like a lot of people claimed it would be.
Also a lot of negativity on the rules for Deathwatch appeared before it was even released. After the negativity of the rules, I don't see ANYTHING for Deathwatch on the forums. So I am guessing it's only a handful of people who got them. Like I said, just guessing. Not saying it's fact.
1) Not everyone who plays posts here
2) I can do a search for Deathwatch on any sub forum and find results.
A minor faction will never be as popular as a main faction so don't expect more.
A big problem with people quoting the quarterly results is that GW didn't release a lot of 40k minatures this year.
BaC is not considered part of GW minatures, but it is listed under thier board games division most of which now fall under forgeworld. Where exactly that falls in under GW quarterly review I have no idea but I know for a fact all those box games that sold well are not listed as part of 40k minatures but board games. Even in the distributors ICT spring results BaC was listed in the board game not non-collectible minature games for 40k. So you can scratch off all the sales for BaC, imperial knight renegades, DWk, death masque, execution force, lost patrol, space hulk, and flyer box games that sold for counting under 40k minature sales. They count under whichever section blood bowl and silver tower go under.
What? It doesn't matter if it falls under 40K, AoS specialist games or even Forge World. It all falls under Games-Workshop. So anything made under Forge World is still under Games Workshop, So it doesn't matter where Betrayal at Calth fits under, ALL profits and what not fall under Games Workshop and their profits are down yet again. Would be even more this year if it wasn't for the video games with GW IP to bring it up.
Are you telling me now that Forge World doesn't fall under Games Workshop and specialist games are under a different company of GW and there fore not part of share holders?
Un yes it matter because GW as a whole was up on profits mainly from licensing stuff but that wasn't just computer games as you stated it also included board games like talisman and other stuff ffg made.
Furthermore you were referencing the minature number but considering there was only a 1-2% drop in retail sales in the yearly report with the majority of the year focused on board game releases and black library codexs such as the AoS rules and rules for small splash releases like death watch and genecult. There was very little change in sales revenue. It's not like this was a banner year of new releases for GW. So your whole point of BaC didn't sell is misplaced since it was mainly board games not stand alone codex updates with massive minature box releases that maintained GW retail sales this year.
Aside from being totally off topic, this is like watching cats debate nuclear physics.
Of course it is. That is why I stopped posting. After seeing how another nerd/geek has to prove another nerd/geek wrong for having a differing opinion I have stopped. Someone asked me a question, so I answered, and then someone else has to chime that had nothing to do with him. I thought I needed to try and defend myself where I think he erred but yet he needs to prove himself wright and me wrong, but I stopped. If I am wrong, I am wrong, does he need to win some buttons or something for being right? That is why I stopped, can't be bothered with people like that.
Agies Grimm:The "Learn to play, bro" mentality is mostly just a way for someone to try to shame you by implying that their metaphorical nerd-wiener is bigger than yours. Which, ironically, I think nerds do even more vehemently than jocks.
Everything is made up and the points don't matter. 40K or Who's Line is it Anyway?
Auticus wrote: Or in summation: its ok to exploit shoddy points because those are rules and gamers exist to find rules loopholes (they are still "legal"), but if the same force can be composed without structure, it emotionally feels "wrong".
beautiful minis...
those shotguns are looking good...
nice to see that these two boxes are not just recut sprues, like some people feared...
bits, and bits, and bits, and bits!!!
so excited to see what else is coming for these guys...
Watching the NZ store page just to get a glimpse of the minis a little sooner. I'll have to remind my self not to have a heart attack from sticker shock when I see those NZ prices, though.
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2000 Khorne Bloodbound (Skullfiend Tribe- Aqshy)
1000 Tzeentch Arcanites (Pyrofane Cult - Hysh) in progress 2000 Slaves to Darkness (Ravagers)
Bottle wrote: Oh god, a web pistol too!? Yet more Necromunda delight.
Seriously. The Neophytes box is basically a Necromunda multi-part kit. So much giggity.
Marneus Calgar is referred to as "one of the Imperium's greatest tacticians" and he treats the Codex like it's the War Bible. If the Codex is garbage, then how bad is everyone else?
Gamgee on Tau Players wrote:we all kill cats and sell our own families to the devil and eat live puppies.
Kanluwen wrote: This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.
Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...
tneva82 wrote: You aren't even trying ty pretend for honest arqument. Open bad faith trolling.
- No reason to keep this here, unless people want to use it for something...
EnTyme wrote: Watching the NZ store page just to get a glimpse of the minis a little sooner. I'll have to remind my self not to have a heart attack from sticker shock when I see those NZ prices, though.
I have through my FLGS already reserved a copy of the collector's edition codex for this release. I'm a tyranid player at the core (see my dancing mario-fex avatar as evidence). In addition, I plan on getting the iPad enhanced edition SAMPLER from the ibooks store as soon as it's available, in hopes that it will include the glossary where I can possibly glean some cool rules info. Additionally, I will probably also pre-order the ebook tablet edition via Black Library's webpage. If it goes like i think it will, I'll then be able to download the codex tonight or tomorrow via the Black Library "my downloads" page once i've logged into my account from my PC at home. If all goes according to plan I will have my cult bible in the next 72 hours.
Been out of the game for awhile, trying to find time to get back into it.
Preorders go up tomorrow, actual release is next Saturday.
I'm going to go ahead and be what some might view as a shill, but...
If you want to guarantee yourself any of these kits? PREORDER. Don't expect to walk into a shop and pick them up.
Sound advice, those Neophytes will fly off the shelves.
YES! Definitely do this, folks! The Deathwatch Kill Team box kit is temporarily out of stock, my FLGS has it on backorder because the distributor cannot fill any orders for it right now. Same for the Corvus Blackstar. These cultists will appeal to tyranid players, genestealer cult players, and anybody looking to convert some hive gangers for necromunda or their chaos armies. It's gonna be preorders only for the most part who get their plastic toys, and then a few weeks wait for production to catch up for everybody else.
Been out of the game for awhile, trying to find time to get back into it.
EnTyme wrote: Watching the NZ store page just to get a glimpse of the minis a little sooner. I'll have to remind my self not to have a heart attack from sticker shock when I see those NZ prices, though.
I have through my FLGS already reserved a copy of the collector's edition codex for this release. I'm a tyranid player at the core (see my dancing mario-fex avatar as evidence). In addition, I plan on getting the iPad enhanced edition SAMPLER from the ibooks store as soon as it's available, in hopes that it will include the glossary where I can possibly glean some cool rules info. Additionally, I will probably also pre-order the ebook tablet edition via Black Library's webpage. If it goes like i think it will, I'll then be able to download the codex tonight or tomorrow via the Black Library "my downloads" page once i've logged into my account from my PC at home. If all goes according to plan I will have my cult bible in the next 72 hours.
Wait, what? You want to pre-order a digital copy of the codex, and expect to download it tonight?
EnTyme wrote: Watching the NZ store page just to get a glimpse of the minis a little sooner. I'll have to remind my self not to have a heart attack from sticker shock when I see those NZ prices, though.
I have through my FLGS already reserved a copy of the collector's edition codex for this release. I'm a tyranid player at the core (see my dancing mario-fex avatar as evidence). In addition, I plan on getting the iPad enhanced edition SAMPLER from the ibooks store as soon as it's available, in hopes that it will include the glossary where I can possibly glean some cool rules info. Additionally, I will probably also pre-order the ebook tablet edition via Black Library's webpage. If it goes like i think it will, I'll then be able to download the codex tonight or tomorrow via the Black Library "my downloads" page once i've logged into my account from my PC at home. If all goes according to plan I will have my cult bible in the next 72 hours.
Wait, what? You want to pre-order a digital copy of the codex, and expect to download it tonight?
Yup. That's what I did with the Tau update codex when Kau'yon came out last year and it worked a charm.
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Been out of the game for awhile, trying to find time to get back into it.
These genestealer cultists look incredible! Really makes me look forward to any Inquisitor 28mm/Necromunda game GW's got in the pipeline; I feel like these guys would fit in really well there.
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These models looks insane (the acolyte raver look ridiculous though, but it's only a head). Thanks god they are not only recut. That would have been such a disapointment. Love these shotguns, chainsaws and web pistols. Really excited to see what they will release next for the cult.
Automatically Appended Next Post: And as some already said, the codex cover is gorgeous. Make me almost want to buy it
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lost and damned log
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/519978.page#6525039
So when are people expecting White Dwarf issue 2 to be delivered in the mail? I guess that is when we will get week 2 release leaks.
Agies Grimm:The "Learn to play, bro" mentality is mostly just a way for someone to try to shame you by implying that their metaphorical nerd-wiener is bigger than yours. Which, ironically, I think nerds do even more vehemently than jocks.
Everything is made up and the points don't matter. 40K or Who's Line is it Anyway?
Auticus wrote: Or in summation: its ok to exploit shoddy points because those are rules and gamers exist to find rules loopholes (they are still "legal"), but if the same force can be composed without structure, it emotionally feels "wrong".
MadCowCrazy wrote: Threw this comparison together in photoshop, pretty convinced it's a webber.
Well, I'm thoroughly convinced now. And as someone else pointed out, the guy on the far right seems to be armed with something very similar in appearance, but larger - so we may be getting web pistols & webbers instead of flamers.
Between this and the vehicle we've been teased, I am more and more wondering if we might eventually see some Adeptus Arbites in a small release as another perfect opponent to the GS Cult (and the only force I would be MORE excited about).
If I were GW, I would release an Arbites vs. Chaos Cult/Heretic Guard/etc boxed game in a similar vein to Deathwatch Overkill or Betrayal at Calth, then put those two forces out in a similar manner to the Deathwatch and Genestealer Cult releases. Then I would use all of those models, plus two or three new sets, to release a new Necromunda-style game with updated rules and a broader scope.
A great multi-part kit or new set for DV style Chaos cultists (lets be hones, that's more realistic than CSM getting a new kit) AND an Arbites release, especially styled after the converted riot squad with the blue APC would leave me speechless and drooling. Plastic sisters on top of that and GSC and AdMech already released might kill me from excitement. Release greatcoat guard and some plastic Necromunda gangs and my ghost would be forced to open its ghost wallet. But Skaven-like Hrud or a zombie plague box would kill the ghost's wallet, again.
After that I wouldn't even know what else I could wish for. Except for really outlandish stuff like new cult CSM plastics and vanilla CSM, but that is crazy talk.
Looking for a Skaven Doomwheel banner to repair my Nurgle knights.