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I thought I would only order the book, cards and mabey the dice. But seeing the new weapons, I'll order the boxes as well.

Look at that. "Codex: Genestealer Cults."

I need a champagne bottle to pop.

WayneTheGame wrote:
I take it I am not the only one who looked at the regular Neophytes, and thought "These would make good chaos cultits"?

Has their been any rumors or indicators how the army actually plays on the table? I can't imagine that they will be super competitive, but man those models do look kinda cool and I'm not normally one to like the Tyranid look.

Awww yeah, tzeentch corrupted miner populace here we goooooooooo.

WayneTheGame wrote:
I take it I am not the only one who looked at the regular Neophytes, and thought "These would make good chaos cultits"?

Has their been any rumors or indicators how the army actually plays on the table? I can't imagine that they will be super competitive, but man those models do look kinda cool and I'm not normally one to like the Tyranid look.

Currently we only have the rules from Deathwatch Overkill, which is a 600 point formation using unique genestealer cult HQs.

On Monday, a friend and I agreed to a 1500 point game, him using his Harlequin masque and I used 2 CADs and a Ghosar Broodkin formation. He allowed me to take multiples of Patriarch Ghosar and Magus Trysst, because there were no generic HQ choices available to me at the time. (I am really hoping that changes). At 1500 points I had 105 models to his 29. It was a bloodbath - the cultists were so numerous that no matter what he was able to kill, there were one or two other units nearby that could get in close and assault him. Now we both realized that it was a poor matchup - a deathwatch or ultramarine army at 1500 would have had better chances due to better firepower. However, i can say that my experience was if the codex plays in a similar fashion to the basic models from overkill, but with more customizable HQ's and wargear choices (plus we have no idea what relic we'll get), the Genestealer Cult can be a very effective and fun army to play. I had a blast and I can't wait to see what sorts of vehicles i'll be able to add to my new force.

Holy shotguns!

Wow, so straight up Ravening Hordes swamp the enemy, with (presumably) vehicle support. Sounds interesting. And expensive. Might be too rich for my blood since I have like a dozen other ideas I want to play as well, and this would basically be a side thing. That does sound fun though.

Codex, datacards and 3 boxes of Neophytes for me I think

Not sure what it is, but I'm not liking those Acolytes as much as the ones in Overkill. Maybe it's the pic.

WayneTheGame wrote:
Wow, so straight up Ravening Hordes swamp the enemy, with (presumably) vehicle support.

Prettymuch. Your basic core troops cost roughly 5 points per model (neophytes) or 7 points per model (acolytes) plus upgrades (which can be minimal). So if these things hold true in the codex, it would be very easy for a Genestealer Cult to have as many, or more, models than an Ork player with BS3 and 5+ armor as standard. Very similar to a foot Astra Militarum list, but with more emphasis on good melee upgrades and stats than standard shooting buffs like the orders system.

Neophytes look good. Imagine, if you will, a necromunda type game with chaos cultists, genestealers, guardsmen, and maybe orks, all trying to control a hive...

 tetrisphreak wrote:

WayneTheGame wrote:
Wow, so straight up Ravening Hordes swamp the enemy, with (presumably) vehicle support.

Prettymuch. Your basic core troops cost roughly 5 points per model (neophytes) or 7 points per model (acolytes) plus upgrades (which can be minimal). So if these things hold true in the codex, it would be very easy for a Genestealer Cult to have as many, or more, models than an Ork player with BS3 and 5+ armor as standard. Very similar to a foot Astra Militarum list, but with more emphasis on good melee upgrades and stats than standard shooting buffs like the orders system.

Frankly all they need is AoC Astra... Imperial Guard, to provide a firebase/artillery support and they'll be terrifying.

Is there a summary post buried somewhere in this thread? Skimmed the first and last few pages and didn't notice one.

Damn I want these so bad. Going to have to resist the urge though. Got way to much in my pile of shame as it is. Once I've finished off my harlequins I might let myself indulge myself, but I've got Deathwatch to paint up too, and loads of normal Nids!

Will at least get the codex for a look though.

I am so, so, so happy that sitting at home on my desk, partially painted, are the two final acolytes to complete my DWO genecult set.

I can buy one each of these babies completely guilt-free

Oh my, YES!!!!!

Acolytes w/ a breaching saw and some sort of demo charges (their krak/melta equivalents like the blasting charges as their Assault grenades I assume).

Looks like a Primus and/or a squad leader type can be made from the Acolytes box as well.

Neophytes w/ heavy stubbers, shotguns, some sort of icon and again a leader type (with a power pick and some sort of pistol - maybe a hand flamer?)

A Neophyte heavy with what could be just another Mining Laser design, or possibly something else?

Soooooo totally stoked for this release!

Probably that seismic gun that was teased in rumors.

...sick. sick. My poor wallet.

I foresee A LOT of shotguns, heavy stubbers, goggle heads and buzzsaws in upcoming =I=28 conversions.

I'm ready to buy the neophytes for parts, but the acolytes I don't like, just as I didn't like the three-armed ones form DW:O. The saw will be hell to get ahold of as a bit, though.

 Binabik15 wrote:
I foresee A LOT of shotguns, heavy stubbers, goggle heads and buzzsaws in upcoming =I=28 conversions.

Oh yeah, =I=28 and Necromunda/Inquisimunda players will be all over these Neophytes.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
They may end up like dark eldar. Great fluff and models, but only one or two options taken to try to cheese out a different force. How many people want to be bb with nids simply to get invisibility after all?

Well we used to be able to use invisibility in our old codex, was the main way to keep our units alive! Now about 3/4's of our 'dex gets shot to pieces before doing anything.

Nice! I'm in for two of both boxes and maybe a third for the neophytes pus the codex. I'm pumped for this!

Davor wrote:


Just talking out loud. It's a guess. Let's see, Betrayal at Calth supposed to sell like hot cakes. Yes GW profits went down until computer game licenses basically saved them. Who ever thought Plants vs Zombies 40K would save them.

So much hype for Deathwatch. HUGE time. But why are they not being talked about now? It's almost like they never existed on the threads. Where is the excitement for them now? You would think people clamouring for this, there would still be lots of threads in the 40K section about them, playing them. Don't see it so maybe they are not as popular as people claimed. I am sure it sold a lot, but maybe not the "saviour" that would save 40K if they ever came out like a lot of people claimed it would be.

Also a lot of negativity on the rules for Deathwatch appeared before it was even released. After the negativity of the rules, I don't see ANYTHING for Deathwatch on the forums. So I am guessing it's only a handful of people who got them. Like I said, just guessing. Not saying it's fact.

1) Not everyone who plays posts here
2) I can do a search for Deathwatch on any sub forum and find results.

A minor faction will never be as popular as a main faction so don't expect more.

Nice models. Very cool.

I would have thought though that the guy with the Codex might open it up and take a picture of the new vehicle!!!

 gorgon wrote:
Look at that. "Codex: Genestealer Cults."

I need a champagne bottle to pop.

Feels good, doesn't it?

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Nice models. Very cool.

I would have thought though that the guy with the Codex might open it up and take a picture of the new vehicle!!!

 gorgon wrote:
Look at that. "Codex: Genestealer Cults."

I need a champagne bottle to pop.

Feels good, doesn't it?

It looks like it might be a photo of the codex cover as shown in white dwarf

I just wanna say those shotguns are amazing.

These guys look cool. I've never been a big tyranid/GSC fan, but I might jump on these.

Daedalus81 wrote:

Davor wrote:


Just talking out loud. It's a guess. Let's see, Betrayal at Calth supposed to sell like hot cakes. Yes GW profits went down until computer game licenses basically saved them. Who ever thought Plants vs Zombies 40K would save them.

So much hype for Deathwatch. HUGE time. But why are they not being talked about now? It's almost like they never existed on the threads. Where is the excitement for them now? You would think people clamouring for this, there would still be lots of threads in the 40K section about them, playing them. Don't see it so maybe they are not as popular as people claimed. I am sure it sold a lot, but maybe not the "saviour" that would save 40K if they ever came out like a lot of people claimed it would be.

Also a lot of negativity on the rules for Deathwatch appeared before it was even released. After the negativity of the rules, I don't see ANYTHING for Deathwatch on the forums. So I am guessing it's only a handful of people who got them. Like I said, just guessing. Not saying it's fact.

1) Not everyone who plays posts here
2) I can do a search for Deathwatch on any sub forum and find results.

A minor faction will never be as popular as a main faction so don't expect more.

A big problem with people quoting the quarterly results is that GW didn't release a lot of 40k minatures this year.
BaC is not considered part of GW minatures, but it is listed under thier board games division most of which now fall under forgeworld. Where exactly that falls in under GW quarterly review I have no idea but I know for a fact all those box games that sold well are not listed as part of 40k minatures but board games. Even in the distributors ICT spring results BaC was listed in the board game not non-collectible minature games for 40k. So you can scratch off all the sales for BaC, imperial knight renegades, DWk, death masque, execution force, lost patrol, space hulk, and flyer box games that sold for counting under 40k minature sales. They count under whichever section blood bowl and silver tower go under and likely even talisman which was a bird game that was part of the licensing agreement with FFG.

 General Kroll wrote:
Damn I want these so bad. Going to have to resist the urge though. Got way to much in my pile of shame as it is. Once I've finished off my harlequins I might let myself indulge myself, but I've got Deathwatch to paint up too, and loads of normal Nids!

Will at least get the codex for a look though.

Same here. I'm desperately trying to finish painting the Ghosar Quintus brood from DW:O, I still need to paint Silver Tower, I have some AoS models that need to be painted, and at some point I need to actually finish my SM list (got sick of painting them and wanted to work on something else). I'll probably be picking up the Codex and maybe the cards, but no models yet for me.

 tetrisphreak wrote:
Just saw these in the tyranid Facebook group.

Are these the same models as came in the deathwatch box or are they new sculpts? I don't remember seeing the saw thing, my orks are looking at it with jealous eyes...

 MadCowCrazy wrote:

 tetrisphreak wrote:
Just saw these in the tyranid Facebook group.

Are these the same models as came in the deathwatch box or are they new sculpts? I don't remember seeing the saw thing, my orks are looking at it with jealous eyes...

They're new multi-part kits with lots of build options - the DW ones were almost snap-fit. There will likely be some very similar bits though, as everything is CAD-designed these days.

gungo wrote:

Daedalus81 wrote:

Davor wrote:


Just talking out loud. It's a guess. Let's see, Betrayal at Calth supposed to sell like hot cakes. Yes GW profits went down until computer game licenses basically saved them. Who ever thought Plants vs Zombies 40K would save them.

So much hype for Deathwatch. HUGE time. But why are they not being talked about now? It's almost like they never existed on the threads. Where is the excitement for them now? You would think people clamouring for this, there would still be lots of threads in the 40K section about them, playing them. Don't see it so maybe they are not as popular as people claimed. I am sure it sold a lot, but maybe not the "saviour" that would save 40K if they ever came out like a lot of people claimed it would be.

Also a lot of negativity on the rules for Deathwatch appeared before it was even released. After the negativity of the rules, I don't see ANYTHING for Deathwatch on the forums. So I am guessing it's only a handful of people who got them. Like I said, just guessing. Not saying it's fact.

1) Not everyone who plays posts here
2) I can do a search for Deathwatch on any sub forum and find results.

A minor faction will never be as popular as a main faction so don't expect more.

A big problem with people quoting the quarterly results is that GW didn't release a lot of 40k minatures this year.
BaC is not considered part of GW minatures, but it is listed under thier board games division most of which now fall under forgeworld. Where exactly that falls in under GW quarterly review I have no idea but I know for a fact all those box games that sold well are not listed as part of 40k minatures but board games. Even in the distributors ICT spring results BaC was listed in the board game not non-collectible minature games for 40k. So you can scratch off all the sales for BaC, imperial knight renegades, DWk, death masque, execution force, lost patrol, space hulk, and flyer box games that sold for counting under 40k minature sales. They count under whichever section blood bowl and silver tower go under.

What? It doesn't matter if it falls under 40K, AoS specialist games or even Forge World. It all falls under Games-Workshop. So anything made under Forge World is still under Games Workshop, So it doesn't matter where Betrayal at Calth fits under, ALL profits and what not fall under Games Workshop and their profits are down yet again. Would be even more this year if it wasn't for the video games with GW IP to bring it up.

Are you telling me now that Forge World doesn't fall under Games Workshop and specialist games are under a different company of GW and there fore not part of share holders?