KS Pacific Rim Miniatures Game - Wave 2 shipping pg 4

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**Black Nexus**

From the website:

Pacific Rim: Extinction is a scenario driven, tabletop miniatures strategy game of city-wide destruction and chaos of epic proportions. With fantastically detailed and painted 75mm scale miniatures of the iconic Jaegers – mechanical guardians of humanity – and Kaiju – monsters the size of mountains sent from beyond our world – it captures the spectacular conflict of the Pacific Rim universe and places it in the palm of your hands.

Players will be able to jump right into the action as either the PPDC Jaegers or the Kaiju, either in a quick play match of intense combat, or a more constructed battle with both Jaegers and Kaiju using all their skills and abilities to achieve an objective.

The goal of the game is different depending on which side you choose to fight with. As a Kaiju player, you’ll uncover a secret objective at the start of the game. To win, you’ll need to meet this objective, ideally without revealing what it is to the Jaeger player too early. As a Jaeger player, your goal is to fulfil the PPDC’s task: the protection of humanity. You’ll need to defend cities as Kaiju trample them, and take down the immense invaders.

Some pics attached, and some more details are on the facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/RiverHorseEU/

All-in pledge: £245 for over £400 individually, includes Core Set and 19 Expansion Sets.

**Nostromodamus**

Kaiju look cool, Jaegers are meh.

**Tamereth**

I've always felt this would make a cool wargame.

Riverhorse's terminator game had a great ruleset so I trust this will be fun to play. Interesting choice of scale and pre-painted models, will have to see how they turn out.

I keep telling myself no more kickstarters, but I may find this one hard to resist.

**Black Nexus**

Here's a pic of the starter set (I've heard it's about £35) and a new video interview with Alessio. Cannot wait for 1 o'clock tomorrow for this to go live!

Video:
https://youtu.be/bWUPAHFYGbY?t=27m7s

**Elbows**

Shame this is based on the new film, which looks like complete and utter gak. I was hoping they'd get a more generic access to the IP, even some creative licensing.

Pacific Rim is one of those "almosts" for me. The first movie was almost good, the designs of the mecha were almost good, etc. I was a fan of a few, like Cherno Alpha and Horizon Brave, but the rest were just lazy.

I actually think a MUCH cooler story line would have been to go prequel, personally. Showing the build and construction of the earliest jaegers - the difficulties of humans fighting off the first Kaiju, etc. The best portion of that story served only as a two-minute intro in the first film.

I'll watch what they do, as I really like River Horse...but I can't get very excited about this.

**Slayer-Fan123**

I actually really like the aesthetics overall and that the different robots have really different designs. There was too much dying too quickly was the issue.

**OrlandotheTechnicoloured**

Elbows wrote:
Shame this is based on the new film, which looks like complete and utter gak. I was hoping they'd get a more generic access to the IP, even some creative licensing.

Pacific Rim is one of those "almosts" for me. The first movie was almost good, the designs of the mecha were almost good, etc. I was a fan of a few, like Cherno Alpha and Horizon Brave, but the rest were just lazy.

I actually think a MUCH cooler story line would have been to go prequel, personally. Showing the build and construction of the earliest jaegers - the difficulties of humans fighting off the first Kaiju, etc. The best portion of that story served only as a two-minute intro in the first film.

I'll watch what they do, as I really like River Horse...but I can't get very excited about this.

From what Alessio said on Beast of War this weekend they do have wider rights, to if the KS does well they can expand to the first film and even make up their own stuff,

but they have to start with the new movie in part to help promote it

**Black Nexus**

I understand River Horse have the license to the Pacific Rim Universe, so I'm expecting Gypsy Danger and Striker Eureka at some point.

**-Loki-**

Black Nexus wrote:
I understand River Horse have the license to the Pacific Rim Universe, so I'm expecting Gypsy Danger and Striker Eureka at some point.

Don't forget Crimson Typhoon and Cherno Alpha.

Also be nice to get the named Kaiju - Knifehead, Leatherback, Otachi.

**ZergSmasher**

I've never backed a kickstarter before due to too many horror stories of people not getting their stuff (or getting it way late), but this one is tempting. I love me some Pacific Rim!

**Kid_Kyoto**

ZergSmasher wrote:
I've never backed a kickstarter before due to too many horror stories of people not getting their stuff (or getting it way late), but this one is tempting. I love me some Pacific Rim!

Two of the more troublesome ones Robotech and Aliens vs Predator were also licensed which means an added expense of the licensing fee and an added layer of approval. Robotech appears to have been doomed by general Palladium incompetence, with losing the license being the final nail in the coffin. Protos was pretty frank about how the licence process slowed or stopped their progress.

My new rule is NO LICENSED KICKSTARTERS, wait for retail.

**Mr Morden**

ZergSmasher wrote:
I've never backed a kickstarter before due to too many horror stories of people not getting their stuff (or getting it way late), but this one is tempting. I love me some Pacific Rim!

Backed quite a few

What I do:

Assume its going to be late and forget about it until it arrives unless an interesting update comes through.

Most KS over promise and find it harder to deliver but so far I have got all of mine - eventually - lots of really nice stuff.. Don't plan games or anything around their calendar.

**ced1106**

Kid_Kyoto wrote:
My new rule is NO LICENSED KICKSTARTERS, wait for retail.

It's not a dealbreaker for me, but I otherwise agree. I *think* it depends on the licensee and the "red tape" the licensor can cause for the project, but I'm not entirely sure. Cryptozoic's Walking Dead was a disaster. However, Monolith's Conan went just fine. I'm backing Monolith's Batman, so we'll see.

fwiw, CMON had some licensing deals, but with licensors who didn't have the potential of causing problems for the project: Smart Max for SMOG, and Adrian Smith for HATE. One of Smart Max's game designers worked on SMOG, and Adrian Smith works for CMON.

For game licenses, some, like Kremlin, went well, others, like Up Front and HeroScape 25th didn't. Again, it also depended on the company managing the license. I figure a well run company will also know which licensors it should and should not work with?

**BobtheInquisitor**

River Horse was the company that delivered Terminator Genysis, right?

**Nostromodamus**

BobtheInquisitor wrote:
River Horse was the company that delivered Terminator Genysis, right?

And Labyrinth, and Dark Crystal, and had a Highlander KS and MLP RPG. They seem familiar with licensing.

**Aeneades**

This is now live but can’t link from my phone.

Putting a £20 addon for free into early bird pledges (since sold out) is a quick way to completely turn me off a Kickstarter.

£100 of addons are already available (unlocked via stretch goals) and a lot more likely to come.

**LunarSol**

The MonPoc announcement was definitely effective in quelling my insta-buy tendencies with this. Normally I'd be all KAIJU-BUY! but now I have a known entity with mechanics I adore so I'm asking questions like "how does the game play?" that I should probably actually look into on these things more often than I do.

**BobtheInquisitor**

One of those add ons seems like a major spoiler.

**Aeneades**

BobtheInquisitor wrote:
One of those add ons seems like a major spoiler.

Yup. Appears so. Came across it a few moments ago and was about to post a warning.

**Ctaylor**

It was in the trailer, so not that much of a spoiler.

I snagged an early bird, but would like to see more info on the game. They say that the rulebook and gameplay videos are on the way.

It does seem expensive for what you get. The number of optional buys scares me.

**Nurglitch**

Maybe they're hedging against over-promising and under-performing.

**Manchu**

Aeneades wrote:
Putting a £20 addon for free into early bird pledges (since sold out) is a quick way to completely turn me off a Kickstarter.

Yes this is really terrible.

**LunarSol**

Oddly, that specific spoiler was spoiled all the way back when the first movie came out in a sort of "if I get to do a sequel, this would probably happen" sort of way. They've been pretty weirdly nonchalant about for the entirety of the movie's development hell.

**Albertorius**

Aeneades wrote:
Putting a £20 addon for free into early bird pledges (since sold out) is a quick way to completely turn me off a Kickstarter

...indeed. That basically says they don't want my money. No biggie, looks like they don't need it anyway to reach their goal.

**Nostromodamus**

Already costs a rediculous amount for what you end up with. I can’t imagine what the final “all in” cost will be.

**Black Nexus**

Aeneades wrote:
Putting a £20 addon for free into early bird pledges (since sold out) is a quick way to completely turn me off a Kickstarter.

Really? It is exactly the same as offering a £20 discount on the EB pledge level over the non-EB version. The exclusive mini can still be purchased by anyone who has not got the EB.

**Aeneades**

Black Nexus wrote:
Aeneades wrote:
Putting a £20 addon for free into early bird pledges (since sold out) is a quick way to completely turn me off a Kickstarter.

Really? It is exactly the same as offering a £20 discount on the EB pledge level over the non-EB version. The exclusive mini can still be purchased by anyone who has not got the EB.

It is but the early bird % discount is much higher than usual here which is the issue.

Typical early birds offer a around a $10 discount on a $120 pledge level. So around an 8% saving. (Although recently the trend seems to be $5 discount or $10 if the pledge level is around $150).

This Kickstarter offers a £20 discount on a £85 pledge (£65 pledge plus free £20 addon). So around a 23% saving.

Most early birds offer a small discount, this is around three times the usual early bird discount.

(On phone so figures from memory, hopefully correct, checking now)

**highlord tamburlaine**

Other than the early birds, what's the point in backing?

There's no real incentive, no extra Jaegers or kaiju, very little building terrain... I feel like we're paying for the painted figures more than anything else.

Shipping won't be cheap either.

This is looking like a hard pass to me sadly, at least at the current price. World needs more tokusatsu/ kaiju battle games as it is.

**Kid_Kyoto**

Nostromodamus wrote:
BobtheInquisitor wrote:
River Horse was the company that delivered Terminator Genysis, right?

And Labyrinth, and Dark Crystal, and had a Highlander KS and MLP RPG. They seem familiar with licensing.

Which is a good sign, but not guarantee that these particular licensors are going to be cooperative and professional.

**Tamereth**

I'm in. You can tell their modelling the game after x-wing in terms of it's sale model. £35 cheapish starter set then £20 for a pre-painted model pack. Feels like it will be competitive once it hits retail.

Hoping they raise enough to get through all the jaegers from both the new film and the original.

The kickstarter exclusive alt pose is nice, if there's any more kickstarter exclusives this is the way to go rather then unique jaegers / kaiju.