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Not asking a question but have a question in the title just in case I am wrong here. Can a mod please take the question mark out for me please.

I am not sure where to put this but seeing this is new or fairly new it could be news worthy for people who don't know. There is a MMO game called Star Trek Online. I just started it and saw that you can make your own Starship in game. I also saw you can actually get a model for them. I think you can get a 4" model, or who are we kidding mini starting at $20, 7" starting at $99 and 12" at $299. I am not sure what funds these are in so I am guessing US funds but could be wrong. I believe it can come in unpainted, painted in one colour or be painted for you but really becomes expensive then.

Here is the link. https://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/10912203

So I think this is great for people who loved making their own Starships in the Star Trek univers and can now actually have a model/mini for it. At being 4" I don't know how well these would play for Star Trek Attack Wing, but I am sure some of these ships could be played close to scale with some of the STAW ships. So if you want your STAW games to scale or seem to be a bit more in scale this could be the option for you. Please tell me if I am wrong here.

I just think this looks great. Depending on how many options we are given in designing our ships I can finally have a mini of my Starship I always wanted.

Hope this helps some people here.

*edit*

Please correct me if I am wrong about this. After rereading it again I am under the impression that it's a pre select that you can buy in the different sizes and you can also custom create a ship but it's at different prices. Sorry for the confusion. Please correct me either way.

Do we have to have bought into the game to buy these minis?

The ship is your ship in game...

Go with yes.

The game has a Free to Play option though so..... You don't have to buy anything but the ship I expect.

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Do we have to have bought into the game to buy these minis?

Grot6 is correct. No money is needed to join. It's a free to play game. Only thing you might have to do and I am not sure is just complete the tuturial. You don't need to buy anything except for the mini of course and if it costs you data do download the game.

I got one of the tholian ships I loved to use in that game. Might have to get back into my old account and get a mini of it.

So, the ships look amazing from the video, but I do not currently play the game.

If you're a beginner in the game, what variety of shops do you have access to?

 schoon wrote:
So, the ships look amazing from the video, but I do not currently play the game.

If you're a beginner in the game, what variety of shops do you have access to?

You can buy pretty much everything using some form of real money-to-fictional money conversion, and in most cases you have to. You can pick a handful of ships, some of them iconic ones from the shows, by levelling up to max rank(which doesn't really take that long - you can easily get to the Admiral tiers on a brand new character over the course of a double-XP weekend, the real grind is earning all the various currencies you need to kit your ships out), but most of the "present day" ships for the game's setting are cash-only, and all of the "weird" ships you wouldn't normally see a Federation Captain flying(Ferengi Marauder, Jem Hadar Attack Ship etc) come either from random lockboxes you buy with real money, from an ingame vendor that uses (a lot of)the "booby prize" crystal currency you get from the lockboxes when you don't get a ship, or by jumping through various hoops to turn your real cash into ingame "energy credits" to buy the ships or unopened lockboxes off the player market at hugely inflated prices.

I really like STO, but it is a complete fething money-vampire to the point I rarely play any more. If you were new to the game and wanted to use this service to get more than a handful of ships, it would be cheaper to buy your own 3D printer and go hunting for 3D models online.

Neat idea merging the screen and the table top.

Davor wrote:

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Do we have to have bought into the game to buy these minis?

Grot6 is correct. No money is needed to join. It's a free to play game. Only thing you might have to do and I am not sure is just complete the tuturial. You don't need to buy anything except for the mini of course and if it costs you data do download the game.

So, in other words I should find someone at TrekBBS who plays the game and has a cool ship and them pay him or her to buy it and ship it to me? This is starting to look expensive, like FFG SW Armada expensive.


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And by cool ship, I mean something like the Titan or Aventine, or some other post-Nemesis Prime-verse starship.

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:

Davor wrote:

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Do we have to have bought into the game to buy these minis?

Grot6 is correct. No money is needed to join. It's a free to play game. Only thing you might have to do and I am not sure is just complete the tuturial. You don't need to buy anything except for the mini of course and if it costs you data do download the game.

So, in other words I should find someone at TrekBBS who plays the game and has a cool ship and them pay him or her to buy it and ship it to me? This is starting to look expensive, like FFG SW Armada expensive.


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And by cool ship, I mean something like the Titan or Aventine, or some other post-Nemesis Prime-verse starship.

Yeah, Yodrin is on the money with this (no pun intended). I only played a little, but getting anything past the Centaur class I started with was going to be a time sink or cost real money. If you can get someone from the BBS to print their ship for you, that would be best.

From the article, these are fully colored. There’s a separate line they have that are hand painted, but they look to cost over$300...

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:

Davor wrote:

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Do we have to have bought into the game to buy these minis?

Grot6 is correct. No money is needed to join. It's a free to play game. Only thing you might have to do and I am not sure is just complete the tuturial. You don't need to buy anything except for the mini of course and if it costs you data do download the game.

So, in other words I should find someone at TrekBBS who plays the game and has a cool ship and them pay him or her to buy it and ship it to me? This is starting to look expensive, like FFG SW Armada expensive.

Did you see the pricing of the ships? $20 for a 4", $99 for 7" and $299 for 12". Besides a 4" ship, the rest seem on the expensive side to me.

I've never needed more than 4" before.








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No, wait.

BobtheInquisitor wrote:So, in other words I should find someone at TrekBBS who plays the game and has a cool ship and them pay him or her to buy it and ship it to me? This is starting to look expensive, like FFG SW Armada expensive.


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And by cool ship, I mean something like the Titan or Aventine, or some other post-Nemesis Prime-verse starship.

I am sorry I don't understand what TrekBBS is. Why would you have to find someone? Just make your own account download the game, play the tutorial. Once you have access to your space ship I can't remember how but you can customize a ship.

Now I can be wrong here but from my limited time playing so far (damn depression) I was able to make a Federation ship in different hauls, saucers and warp nacelles and a few other options. Then without even buying the ship in game, there was a button to save it, export it to buy the mini. So I believe and could be wrong so someone please correct me, you don't even need to buy the ship in game, just design it, and save it for later use if you want. Then you can export it to the site for them to make.

Is it expensive? Yes it is. So Games Workshop and Privateer Press minis as well. For $20 for a CUSTOM Star Trek ship, that seems like a great deal. Even if it is 4". Then again are we not paying $20 for Star Trek Attack Wing ships? And this is in better quality. Or so it seems in the pic since I haven't seen on in real life yet. So unless someone doesn't buy GW or PP products, I can't really see the 4" and 7" ships being expenive. It's about the same price.

I just thought maybeing haveing a Romulan Deridex class at 4" would be more in size compared to a Wizkids Galaxy Class ship. I could be wrong again, but for someone who wants scale it might be worth it for them.

Also it's a custom design. Here is a chance to actually design your own mini. Especially a Star Trek mini. How cool is that?

Now here is a kicker. I know in game later in the game you could design a hybrid ship if I didn't read it wrong. So how about a Romulan/Federation/Klingon or what ever hybrid? OH YES. That I am not sure of if you can get it with the minis though.

Just so people can have a rough estimate, Kickback here is 4" from toe to antennae tips next to a STAW Excelsior.

You can pretty much get ANY ship in the Star Wars universe in the game. You might have to buy in to get specifics, but I started out Way back, and am running around with numerous races and ships. As of now- I think one of the most interesting races to play is the Romulans. They are as unconventional as you can find in game...

You can get the ship models from AMT still... I'm still on the lookout for the bridge model set. I want one for the RPG. I want to use the clicks guys, snip[ them off, rebase them, and use them for RPG play.

Your best bet is still the Star Trek Star Fleet Battles, with the old school minis. Easy Peasy.

Edit- Yeah, I just looked at the clicks games, too... You could probably get away with repainting your ships from there, as well...

That's pretty awesome. Been a while since I played STO, but I enjoyed it back when I did and would love to get a 1701-F mini, the Odyssey-class Enterprise. $20 for a 4" full color printed mini a pretty darned reasonable price, years ago I got a Figureprint of my World of Warcraft character that was $120 and that thing is only about 8" tall or so and most of the Shaeways 3D printed Starfleet Battles minis are in the $15 range for unpainted figs

@ Grot6, you mean Star Trek correct?

 Kalamadea wrote:
That's pretty awesome. Been a while since I played STO, but I enjoyed it back when I did and would love to get a 1701-F mini, the Odyssey-class Enterprise. $20 for a 4" full color printed mini a pretty darned reasonable price, years ago I got a Figureprint of my World of Warcraft character that was $120 and that thing is only about 8" tall or so and most of the Shaeways 3D printed Starfleet Battles minis are in the $15 range for unpainted figs

I am not sure if the 4" full colour printed mini is $20. Adding colour costs more. Judging by the video it looks like they are hand painted as well, so another reason they are so expensive. I think the $20 is just for the 4" version then the prices go up if painted.

Davor wrote:


I am sorry I don't understand what TrekBBS is. Why would you have to find someone? Just make your own account download the game, play the tutorial. Once you have access to your space ship I can't remember how but you can customize a ship.

Now I can be wrong here but from my limited time playing so far (damn depression) I was able to make a Federation ship in different hauls, saucers and warp nacelles and a few other options. Then without even buying the ship in game, there was a button to save it, export it to buy the mini. So I believe and could be wrong so someone please correct me, you don't even need to buy the ship in game, just design it, and save it for later use if you want. Then you can export it to the site for them to make

Maybe that was only for a few of the in game purchasable ships? I only played for a little bit but it looked to me that access to the ships (even just pulling them up on screen to look at them) was gated behind character levels. As a starting character, I only had access to one or two ships. When I got to level 10, I got to chose from a few more but I couldn't access/customize them until I was the appropriate level though. Did I miss something or did the game change?

Love the idea of these as gaming miniatures - and the $20 prove point for the 4" ships seems reasonable.

...but the extra cash and effort to get the ships you want in game is - offputing

Davor wrote:
@ Grot6, you mean Star Trek correct?

 Kalamadea wrote:
That's pretty awesome. Been a while since I played STO, but I enjoyed it back when I did and would love to get a 1701-F mini, the Odyssey-class Enterprise. $20 for a 4" full color printed mini a pretty darned reasonable price, years ago I got a Figureprint of my World of Warcraft character that was $120 and that thing is only about 8" tall or so and most of the Shaeways 3D printed Starfleet Battles minis are in the $15 range for unpainted figs

I am not sure if the 4" full colour printed mini is $20. Adding colour costs more. Judging by the video it looks like they are hand painted as well, so another reason they are so expensive. I think the $20 is just for the 4" version then the prices go up if painted.

No, prior to the full-color printed models, they were doing a line that you could either buy as primed/one color (for $349) or for an even more insane cost (for $549) get a hand-painted one. This new method replaces that.

 schoon wrote:
So, the ships look amazing from the video, but I do not currently play the game.

If you're a beginner in the game, what variety of shops do you have access to?

A fair bit, I'll list the ships that are avalaible for free by faction etc to give you some ideas. each basic hull has 3 or so cosmetic options, and you can mix and match to create your own ship. most are basicly "canon ship X, and some inspired by varients" I'll list the canon stuf or things that people at least will be familr with


Federation Tier 1:

Light Cruiser: Miranda (or the Centaur)

Tier 2:
Movie Era Consisution
Sabre
Nova

Tier 3:
Cheyenne
Akira
Olympic

Tier 4:
Galaxy
Defiant
Intrepid

Tier 5:
Promethus
Luna Class
Soverign Class



Klingon and romulan ships exist as well, this list BTW is faaaaaar from comprehensive, just the canon ships federation avalaible for free in game. the real fun thing is you can modify the ship kitbashing a unique look etc. could be a fun way to get that perfect mini of your RPG groups ship

 warboss wrote:

Davor wrote:


I am sorry I don't understand what TrekBBS is. Why would you have to find someone? Just make your own account download the game, play the tutorial. Once you have access to your space ship I can't remember how but you can customize a ship.

Now I can be wrong here but from my limited time playing so far (damn depression) I was able to make a Federation ship in different hauls, saucers and warp nacelles and a few other options. Then without even buying the ship in game, there was a button to save it, export it to buy the mini. So I believe and could be wrong so someone please correct me, you don't even need to buy the ship in game, just design it, and save it for later use if you want. Then you can export it to the site for them to make

Maybe that was only for a few of the in game purchasable ships? I only played for a little bit but it looked to me that access to the ships (even just pulling them up on screen to look at them) was gated behind character levels. As a starting character, I only had access to one or two ships. When I got to level 10, I got to chose from a few more but I couldn't access/customize them until I was the appropriate level though. Did I miss something or did the game change?

You can look at any ship or skin at the main starship vendor where you claim the free ones, but I'm fairly sure you have to go to a different NPC to do your own custom combinations of parts and hull skins(like; TOS off-white, TOS movie, TNG-grey, TNG-movie blue-grey and black panels, STO-era white with black panels and orange accents etc), and you have to own the ship to use that NPC, which I think where you do the printing from(I've not played since they added that feature so I can't be certain). So I think you do need to own the actual ship to print a copy of it.

Davor wrote:

BobtheInquisitor wrote:So, in other words I should find someone at TrekBBS who plays the game and has a cool ship and them pay him or her to buy it and ship it to me? This is starting to look expensive, like FFG SW Armada expensive.


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And by cool ship, I mean something like the Titan or Aventine, or some other post-Nemesis Prime-verse starship.

I am sorry I don't understand what TrekBBS is. Why would you have to find someone? Just make your own account download the game, play the tutorial. Once you have access to your space ship I can't remember how but you can customize a ship.

Now I can be wrong here but from my limited time playing so far (damn depression) I was able to make a Federation ship in different hauls, saucers and warp nacelles and a few other options. Then without even buying the ship in game, there was a button to save it, export it to buy the mini. So I believe and could be wrong so someone please correct me, you don't even need to buy the ship in game, just design it, and save it for later use if you want. Then you can export it to the site for them to make.

Is it expensive? Yes it is. So Games Workshop and Privateer Press minis as well. For $20 for a CUSTOM Star Trek ship, that seems like a great deal. Even if it is 4". Then again are we not paying $20 for Star Trek Attack Wing ships? And this is in better quality. Or so it seems in the pic since I haven't seen on in real life yet. So unless someone doesn't buy GW or PP products, I can't really see the 4" and 7" ships being expenive. It's about the same price.

I just thought maybeing haveing a Romulan Deridex class at 4" would be more in size compared to a Wizkids Galaxy Class ship. I could be wrong again, but for someone who wants scale it might be worth it for them.

Also it's a custom design. Here is a chance to actually design your own mini. Especially a Star Trek mini. How cool is that?

Now here is a kicker. I know in game later in the game you could design a hybrid ship if I didn't read it wrong. So how about a Romulan/Federation/Klingon or what ever hybrid? OH YES. That I am not sure of if you can get it with the minis though.

TrekBBS is the DakkaDakka of Star Trek.

I am saying, I have neither the time nor the inclination to sign up, pay for and play a video game I don't care to play just so I can spend money on the one thing I do want. I would much rather come to an agreement with someone who already has all the in-game materials necessary. I've paid $30 or more for single Star Trek Micromachines before, and I'd be willing to again. However, once one subtracts the $20 and the shipping, I'm not sure how much is left for the middle man, and I wouldn't want him not to be paid sufficiently, hence my statement that this could get expensive.


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Luna class, like the Titan? Cheyenne, the ship with four markers for nacelles??

Anyone interested in working out an arrangement?

I have an old lifetime acct with a couple of max lvl fed and romulan captains. I have quite a lot of ships so will pop on later and check what is involved.

I might be interested in the Borg/Romulan hybrid Deridex for myself anyway.

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:

Spoiler:

Davor wrote:

BobtheInquisitor wrote:So, in other words I should find someone at TrekBBS who plays the game and has a cool ship and them pay him or her to buy it and ship it to me? This is starting to look expensive, like FFG SW Armada expensive.


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And by cool ship, I mean something like the Titan or Aventine, or some other post-Nemesis Prime-verse starship.

I am sorry I don't understand what TrekBBS is. Why would you have to find someone? Just make your own account download the game, play the tutorial. Once you have access to your space ship I can't remember how but you can customize a ship.

Now I can be wrong here but from my limited time playing so far (damn depression) I was able to make a Federation ship in different hauls, saucers and warp nacelles and a few other options. Then without even buying the ship in game, there was a button to save it, export it to buy the mini. So I believe and could be wrong so someone please correct me, you don't even need to buy the ship in game, just design it, and save it for later use if you want. Then you can export it to the site for them to make.

Is it expensive? Yes it is. So Games Workshop and Privateer Press minis as well. For $20 for a CUSTOM Star Trek ship, that seems like a great deal. Even if it is 4". Then again are we not paying $20 for Star Trek Attack Wing ships? And this is in better quality. Or so it seems in the pic since I haven't seen on in real life yet. So unless someone doesn't buy GW or PP products, I can't really see the 4" and 7" ships being expenive. It's about the same price.

I just thought maybeing haveing a Romulan Deridex class at 4" would be more in size compared to a Wizkids Galaxy Class ship. I could be wrong again, but for someone who wants scale it might be worth it for them.

Also it's a custom design. Here is a chance to actually design your own mini. Especially a Star Trek mini. How cool is that?

Now here is a kicker. I know in game later in the game you could design a hybrid ship if I didn't read it wrong. So how about a Romulan/Federation/Klingon or what ever hybrid? OH YES. That I am not sure of if you can get it with the minis though.

TrekBBS is the DakkaDakka of Star Trek.

I am saying, I have neither the time nor the inclination to sign up, pay for and play a video game I don't care to play just so I can spend money on the one thing I do want. I would much rather come to an agreement with someone who already has all the in-game materials necessary. I've paid $30 or more for single Star Trek Micromachines before, and I'd be willing to again. However, once one subtracts the $20 and the shipping, I'm not sure how much is left for the middle man, and I wouldn't want him not to be paid sufficiently, hence my statement that this could get expensive.


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Luna class, like the Titan? Cheyenne, the ship with four markers for nacelles??

Anyone interested in working out an arrangement?

Ah you ment a member. Now I see what you mean and what I said was totally irrelevant because I misunderstood. Sorry about that.

OK, I remembered I actually still had this installed, so I fired it up for a look.

It does do the prints from the ship customisation NPC, but it does not require you to finalise any selections you make before you upload to the 3D print website, meaning while you need to own a version of the ship you want, you can print a ship that has any of the customisation options for that "line" of vessels - so if you own the basic Galaxy class cruiser you get free from levelling up, you can print a Galaxy class ship as-is, or one that uses any of the parts from any of the refit or successor classes and selecting different hull materials does also seem to work.

The sad exception to that is the one ship that might actually motivate me to use the service - the Vesta. There are some combinations of parts that will make a printable model, but the basic Vesta class is completely locked out presumably because the rights are still owned by Rademaker, so my custom ship won't print.

EDIT: Although on the plus side, it looks like they'll print the awesome new TOS-era ships that came in a while ago.

Thanks for that Yodhrin. I am still learning how to use and play STO. I see now we need to own the ship in game to be able to print it out.

I don't know what I clicked on then that gave me different ships. I guess I was in the wrong tab when seeing ships I shouldn't be able to get.

 Yodhrin wrote:
OK, I remembered I actually still had this installed, so I fired it up for a look.

It does do the prints from the ship customisation NPC, but it does not require you to finalise any selections you make before you upload to the 3D print website, meaning while you need to own a version of the ship you want, you can print a ship that has any of the customisation options for that "line" of vessels - so if you own the basic Galaxy class cruiser you get free from levelling up, you can print a Galaxy class ship as-is, or one that uses any of the parts from any of the refit or successor classes and selecting different hull materials does also seem to work.

The sad exception to that is the one ship that might actually motivate me to use the service - the Vesta. There are some combinations of parts that will make a printable model, but the basic Vesta class is completely locked out presumably because the rights are still owned by Rademaker, so my custom ship won't print.

EDIT: Although on the plus side, it looks like they'll print the awesome new TOS-era ships that came in a while ago.

Thanks for the clarification in detail. With the new TOS ships, iirc they were in a now $100+ bundle and not earnable for free beyond the starting Pioneer utility cruiser class.

 warboss wrote:

 Yodhrin wrote:
OK, I remembered I actually still had this installed, so I fired it up for a look.

It does do the prints from the ship customisation NPC, but it does not require you to finalise any selections you make before you upload to the 3D print website, meaning while you need to own a version of the ship you want, you can print a ship that has any of the customisation options for that "line" of vessels - so if you own the basic Galaxy class cruiser you get free from levelling up, you can print a Galaxy class ship as-is, or one that uses any of the parts from any of the refit or successor classes and selecting different hull materials does also seem to work.

The sad exception to that is the one ship that might actually motivate me to use the service - the Vesta. There are some combinations of parts that will make a printable model, but the basic Vesta class is completely locked out presumably because the rights are still owned by Rademaker, so my custom ship won't print.

EDIT: Although on the plus side, it looks like they'll print the awesome new TOS-era ships that came in a while ago.

Thanks for the clarification in detail. With the new TOS ships, iirc they were in a now $100+ bundle and not earnable for free beyond the starting Pioneer utility cruiser class.

The game is pretty nefarious for this, too.... Be careful if you go in there. 100+ is on the low end, I am afraid.

 warboss wrote:

 Yodhrin wrote:
OK, I remembered I actually still had this installed, so I fired it up for a look.

It does do the prints from the ship customisation NPC, but it does not require you to finalise any selections you make before you upload to the 3D print website, meaning while you need to own a version of the ship you want, you can print a ship that has any of the customisation options for that "line" of vessels - so if you own the basic Galaxy class cruiser you get free from levelling up, you can print a Galaxy class ship as-is, or one that uses any of the parts from any of the refit or successor classes and selecting different hull materials does also seem to work.

The sad exception to that is the one ship that might actually motivate me to use the service - the Vesta. There are some combinations of parts that will make a printable model, but the basic Vesta class is completely locked out presumably because the rights are still owned by Rademaker, so my custom ship won't print.

EDIT: Although on the plus side, it looks like they'll print the awesome new TOS-era ships that came in a while ago.

Thanks for the clarification in detail. With the new TOS ships, iirc they were in a now $100+ bundle and not earnable for free beyond the starting Pioneer utility cruiser class.

The Pioneer is a lovely ship though. I managed to score an Atlas Dreadnought box off a ragequitting guildy at the time as well, those are real beauties, but I'm not sure a 4" model would do it justice and there's no danger I'm paying for the bigger ones. I left the rest of them because I wasn't willing to spend a small fortune on the top-tier Temporal Ships required to actually use the skins at max level.