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Looks like they nailed it. The tone of this is absolutely bang on. Very fun at face value, but with enough of a hint that there's going to be a very real, even dark side to it under the colourful surface.

   
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I'm kind of hoping its just stupid and silly though and though as it's the best way to deal with powers on his level, and 'cos Magic' is a splendid go to

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The trailer makes the movie look like a lot of fun - hopefully the movie delivers on it!

Now, I'll admit to not being the biggest Captain Marvel/Shazam fan, I've always liked the character though - but...I don't remember Dr. Sivana being super powered?

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Wow... I was dubious at first about this film... but, they looked like they nailed the source materials.

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based on that trailer solid skip

   
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Is the rock still playing Black Adam?


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Of all things, it made me think of the old Tom Hanks movie 'Big'. Looks really good, and it's nice to see a DC movie that embraces the inherent silliness of a character's concept and just has some fun with it.

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 Lance845 wrote:
Is the rock still playing Black Adam?


Yes, but not in this one.

Regarding Sivana, in the New 52 version he gets zapped by some magic when searching for Black Adam’s tomb. This looks *very* similar to that version...which would make sense since Johns was involved. I think you can even make out Sivana’s sparkly eye.

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Yeah, this does look like an almost exact adaptation of the Johns N52 run, certain scenes seem to be directly pulled from those issues...

Which is great news, as that is an excellent run. If you're not familiar with the character and want a single volume introduction, I highly recommend picking up a copy of that.

I do find it somewhat ironic that Mark Strong is playing Sivana, as I maintain he'd make an incredible Black Adam (a role I'm really not convinced The Rock can do justice).

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GOOD call there!

I enjoy the Rock in most of his films, but Strong would have almost certainly been a fantastic Black Adam - definitely better than the Rock.

Most likely!

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I do not give a crap about Shazam, but damn this looks fun.

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I do find it somewhat ironic that Mark Strong is playing Sivana, as I maintain he'd make an incredible Black Adam (a role I'm really not convinced The Rock can do justice).
Mark Strong would make a good Wonder Woman. That man can do anything.

   
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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I do not give a crap about Shazam, but damn this looks fun.


Which of course means that you in fact do give a crap about Shazam.

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Was there a TV show about Shaz or something? I've never read any comics of him but have vague memories of his powers/origin.

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 SlaveToDorkness wrote:
Was there a TV show about Shaz or something? I've never read any comics of him but have vague memories of his powers/origin.


yup.




complete with a mentor called... err.. "Mentor" and obligatory motor/dirt bike.

70s were wild.

From one recalls from the comics of that era the show was frequently shown alongside




back when TV channels were big on the concept of the A/B/C hour .

.. ..I'd imagine a show today called "Secrets of Isis" might be a wee bit different.

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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Mark Strong would make a good Wonder Woman. That man can do anything.



Its such a shame that he(and the rest of the cast) was wasted on the Green Lantern movie.
   
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Looks a lot less concerned about being taken seriously than most DC, which can only be a good thing.

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I do like that there's also some hints to it that it isn't just a comedy, that there's the aspect of he IS an orphan and that there might be some dramatic elements still in the film from that.

I don't want Snyder but I do want, and I think this is the right term, but please correct me if I'm wrong but... Pathos? Too
   
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I’d never heard of Shazam, but the trailer reminded me of this;


   
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What is this I don't even

Ahem.

I know nothing about DC beyond the main two guys (and who Wonder Woman is despite being too young for Linda Carter). What is this please?

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There's a few good videos about "Who is Shazam" but presumably you're not wanting to see them.


Funnily enough, I'm pretty sure Bananaman is quite heavily based off of Shazam as a parody.

Ok, who is he. Cliffnotes.

Way, way back when, Fawcett Comics created a Superman style superhero called "Captain Marvel" (no relationship to Disney's Brie Larson character, Carol Danvers. - That's a whole other mess of complication).

Billy Batson is a kid, who said the words "Shazam" and became a superhero, Captain Marvel - The Earth's Mightiest Mortal.

For a fair amount of time, Captain Marvel was WAY WAY WAY more popular than Superman. Because, what's more exciting for kids than Superheros? A *Kid* That becomes a superhero.


Legal stuff happened. More legal stuff happened. Companies were bought and so on...

Eventually, DC acquired Captain Marvel as a character and added him to their Justice League rosters.

More legal stuff happened and time went on.

Eventually, somebody decided, "eff this, this is too confusing." Probably amongst a whole heap of legal stuff

So, The Marvel Comics character, Carol Danvers, aka Ms Marvel, became Captain Marvel.


And the DC Comics hero, once known as Captain Marvel, became known as Shazam. - Which was his catchphase anyway.

As for what and who Shazam is. You can kind of think of him as a Wonder Woman / Superman cross. - Sort of Superman but magical.
And, Shazam itself means:

S for the Wisdom of Solomon
H for the Strength of Hercules
A for the Stamina of Atlas
Z for the Power of Zeus
A for the Courage of Achilles
M for the Speed of Mercury


He's part of the New 52 Justice League, has shown up a few times in animation. - His best appearance run in cartoons is probably in Young Justice. And comics wise, his most influential and famous appearance is almost certainly in Alex Ross' Kingdom Come.

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Because hes magic based he can actually beat the gak out of Superman (whos only 2 actual weaknesses are kryptonite and magic). There is a great bit that has been used a few times where he grabs supes, holds him towards the sky and yells shazam over and over so supes keeps getting hit by the magical lightning bolts that would turn him back into Billy.

Captain Marvel is still called Captain Marvel btw. His comic is just titled Shazam! And the orginal Marvel character was not the Carol Danvers Mrs Marvel, but Captain Mahr Vel (the Kree warrior who sided with earth).



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I was trying to keep things high level without getting into the nitty gritty.

I didn't know he's still called Captain Marvel though, in the New 52 movies at least, I think he was called Shazam.
   
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Which is odd because he can't actually tell anyone who he is, if that's his 'name'!

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Captain Marvel Jr (Freddy in the trailer) has that same problem. His magic word is Captain Marvel.

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Right!

Wasn't he calling himself something goofy like "CM3" so that he could also avoid that 'problem' though?

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I've always liked the idea of Captain Marvel (still waffling about calling him Shazam) though never really read his ongoings. There's just something heartening about the idea that this kid, who's had a rough go of it, is given godlike power to do whatever he wants - powers that previous users used to become feared god-kings - and decides he wants to be Superman, so he can help people.

That said, I do not like this rendition of the suit, and I worry about Zachary Levi eventually fighting the Rock, because that throw-down requires dangerous amounts of ham-to-ham combat an I don't know if Levi can keep up with that.

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I actually like that they kept the goofy 50's look with the suit. It keeps with the goofy feel of this character, which fits.
   
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 Captain Joystick wrote:
I've always liked the idea of Captain Marvel (still waffling about calling him Shazam) though never really read his ongoings. There's just something heartening about the idea that this kid, who's had a rough go of it, is given godlike power to do whatever he wants - powers that previous users used to become feared god-kings - and decides he wants to be Superman, so he can help people.

That said, I do not like this rendition of the suit, and I worry about Zachary Levi eventually fighting the Rock, because that throw-down requires dangerous amounts of ham-to-ham combat an I don't know if Levi can keep up with that.


I don't know, he's fairly ham-tastic as Fandril in Thor 2.

I do hope any eventual sequel to this features Superman in some kind of mentor role to Billy, as that'd be a great way to get more of the classic, post-JL Superman on screen as MoS2 still seems to be off the cards for the time being.

Ideally, we get Shazam as a fairly self-contained origin, Black Adam set mostly in ancient Kandaq with the final scene being Adam returning to the modern day, then a sequel to both in which Superman and Shazam throw down with Adam. Which I believe is basically the plot of one of the animated movies and the comic First Thunder, but nonetheless it'd make a great movie.

   
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Good thing that they drop such trailers, so that I do not Waste Money on going to see these dull Movies.
   
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I think the suit mostly fits what this movie is shaping up to be. If they were going more a more serious approach, they might have gone with the flap and buttons, which would probably lend itself more to a leathery-looking suit.

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To be fair to the Marvel family, their adventures weren't always about goofy characters like Mr. Mind and Tawky Tawny like many think. They had darker villains like Ibac and Sabbac, and horror elements that crept into their comics in the '50s. Meanwhile, Superman had a lot of goofy comic villains of his own. But this film seems focused on the Marvels' lighter side, which is fine.

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