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Not replacing the Terminator Captain, unsure if Terminator Chaplain will remain available.



Will be available in-store for re-brandings, new openings, and relocations.

Price unconfirmed at this time. And yes, the Loot Group will be happy to help where possible. Debut is at Warhammer Ballarat, 30th March 2019.

That head! It is so tiny and weird looking! Otherwise it is a cool model, but I really don't get how that head could be sculpted my the same person that did the rest of the model. Oh well, a simple headswap would fix this.

I'm not sure if it's the head or the paintjob. Will need to see the bare material first. But yeah, will be using the group for this one Doc.

That's a pretty nice model but yeah, there's something...off about that head.

Could be that the skirt makes the torso look a bit longer, and the head smaller by comparison? But there's something weirdly unflattering going on with some combination of the paint job/expression, too.

I think it's a combination of not a very good head, and the weird armor: the solid piece ab armor that fits inside the chest part is long to begin with and then after recognizing that it's not skin tight makes her already long torso even thinner. There's nowhere for her ribs, really. I'm no armor expert, but that looks like it would be insanely uncomfortable.

I really like that. It would make a cool base for an Inquisitor.

That...is one unattractive miniature.

There's nothing wrong with the size of the head, but the paint job is doing it no favours.

Looks fine zoomed in, but it does look under detailed if you don't bother clicking on the picture.


But it seems pointless to restrict it to store openings only. Just sell models, GW. Your attempts sales gimmicks are terrible.

Face looks oddly highlighted. Perhaps we’re just used to the cheekbones defined on female models?

Other angles are good though...

That's a good looking model. It has a LOT of potential for an Inquisitor, or Rogue Trader conversion.

I want one.

Sculpt looks fine to me.

Did someone forgot to paint sword-side gauntlet?

I agree with spiralingcadaver, she looks comically thin under that armour. Also, her pose looks a bit unnatural as she is forced to lean forward by dumb platform high heels all female stormcast have for some weird reason. She isn't first, to be fair, but pretty much every stormcast woman so far that isn't running forward has to lean in weird direction thanks to these silly shoes...

Constantly annoyed that GW:

A.) Has exclusive models available only at store openings or anniversaries/conventions/etc.
B.) Can pump out these exclusives regularly but can't be bothered to move stuff from failcast to plastic.

They must have a small mold machine only for character models and use downtime on it to push out these things, but they still cost money to make the molds and have to basically be a promotional write-off.

They’re not a write-off if they sell them to people, as they do, and if they get people to attend their stores/events and spend even more money.

 JohnnyHell wrote:
They’re not a write-off if they sell them to people, as they do, and if they get people to attend their stores/events and spend even more money.

They sell them, sure, but probably not in the volumes necessary to profit directly from them in the short term. Steel molds still aren't cheap to make.

Maybe 'Write-off" is the wrong term - "Loss Leader" might be better.

That’s one ugly chick. Maybe there’s a helmeted option.

 John Prins wrote:
They sell them, sure, but probably not in the volumes necessary to profit directly from them in the short term. Steel molds still aren't cheap to make.

Maybe 'Write-off" is the wrong term - "Loss Leader" might be better.

Well, the aim is not to specifically make money off these miniatures directly, but to drive in-store purchases. I'd imagine that if that strategy didn't work at all, they'd have given it up already. I mean, while it is often a joke, I see people saying how they went into the store for X and came out with X+Y+Z+half of a kitchen sink. So, it's not implausible to me that the "average" buyer of these in-store exclusives do indeed spend some meaningful percentage more than just that mini's price.

When I worked in retail, this was why they were usually fairly happy to give discounts in the form of "gift cards" for that store. It was something like half the people that would spend twice as much back into the store than what was on the card and a still significant amount of people that would spend even more. The people who would exact it are likely only somewhat more numerous than they people who would just never use it. It's all about driving store traffic, basically.

 Irbis wrote:
Did someone forgot to paint sword-side gauntlet?

I agree with spiralingcadaver, she looks comically thin under that armour. Also, her pose looks a bit unnatural as she is forced to lean forward by dumb platform high heels all female stormcast have for some weird reason. She isn't first, to be fair, but pretty much every stormcast woman so far that isn't running forward has to lean in weird direction thanks to these silly shoes...

The Warhammer Community article mentions that she has lost her gauntlet in a previous battle so was a design decision.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/03/19/coming-to-a-store-opening-near-you-leena-stormspire/

 John Prins wrote:

 JohnnyHell wrote:
They’re not a write-off if they sell them to people, as they do, and if they get people to attend their stores/events and spend even more money.

They sell them, sure, but probably not in the volumes necessary to profit directly from them in the short term. Steel molds still aren't cheap to make.

Maybe 'Write-off" is the wrong term - "Loss Leader" might be better.

At £20 a time for a sprue costing pence, and at the volumes they produce, I’f still put my money on them being a moneyspinner not a loss leader.

So I like the model and its extra 'I'm a unit champion!' details. But one small flaw is that models holding weapons out like that are difficult to physically put into melee on the table since they keep poking other models.

But there is one big flaw in WTH is wrong with her face!?

 JohnnyHell wrote:

At £20 a time for a sprue costing pence, and at the volumes they produce, I’f still put my money on them being a moneyspinner not a loss leader.

It's possible, I suppose, but remember that the big costs is in design (CAD time) and making the mold, which can run tens of thousands of pounds. For something available for sale one day a year (per store) doesn't drive huge volumes. I'm sure GW knows how long it will take to break even, and the molds can last for decades.

But as H mentions, they drive other sales, which is exactly what a loss leader is supposed to do.

Yeah....I'll be joining the Loot Group...I like this one, and I'm tired of missing out...

*Edit* I'm not in Canada, durn it...I'm in Texas!

 John Prins wrote:
It's possible, I suppose, but remember that the big costs is in design (CAD time) and making the mold, which can run tens of thousands of pounds. For something available for sale one day a year (per store) doesn't drive huge volumes. I'm sure GW knows how long it will take to break even, and the molds can last for decades.

But as H mentions, they drive other sales, which is exactly what a loss leader is supposed to do.

I imagine that boxes like Shadowspear are also likely in the same boat. Over time, they probably end up rather neutral in profit itself, but likely have a net-positive effect on cross-merchandise revenue that justifies the "high" initial costs and low reuseability of the molds of the box sets. In other words, if the box "breaks even" with it's own sale's profit, it's likely a massive success overall.

The same likely goes for these in-store deals.

 H wrote:

 John Prins wrote:
It's possible, I suppose, but remember that the big costs is in design (CAD time) and making the mold, which can run tens of thousands of pounds. For something available for sale one day a year (per store) doesn't drive huge volumes. I'm sure GW knows how long it will take to break even, and the molds can last for decades.

But as H mentions, they drive other sales, which is exactly what a loss leader is supposed to do.

I imagine that boxes like Shadowspear are also likely in the same boat. Over time, they probably end up rather neutral in profit itself, but likely have a net-positive effect on cross-merchandise revenue that justifies the "high" initial costs and low reuseability of the molds of the box sets. In other words, if the box "breaks even" with it's own sale's profit, it's likely a massive success overall.

The same likely goes for these in-store deals.

I think Shadowspear (and Dark Imperium) shift huge volumes, which makes for great economies of scale. They might even end up being more profitable than other new releases despite the 'discount' vs their regular pricing.

You can make moulds of softer metals that are substantially cheaper but don't last nearly as long so it wouldn't surprise me if at least some of these LE models are done that way, add that to in house sculpting using assets that are already done at least in part and these will be a lot cheaper to do than you might think

and even at say, 5 minis sold per store per year (i'd say that pretty conservative) that's 3000 which is £60, 000 (well more actually as other regions are priced at above the normal conversion rate)

That's a funny lookin' Primaris Lieutenant.

All right! Female custodeus!


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 Osis wrote:
Yeah....I'll be joining the Loot Group...I like this one, and I'm tired of missing out...

*Edit* I'm not in Canada, durn it...I'm in Texas!

You mean North Mexico?

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
So I like the model and its extra 'I'm a unit champion!' details. But one small flaw is that models holding weapons out like that are difficult to physically put into melee on the table since they keep poking other models.

But there is one big flaw in WTH is wrong with her face!?

Removing the defined bags under her eyes helps considerably...

Not really.