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Missionary On A Mission






I don't know if this goes in Geek Media, but I'm geeking out over it so I'm making the call.

I am really enjoying HBO and Sky Atlantic's Chernobyl miniseries.




We're two episodes in so far and I feel like I'm finally, finally, understanding the appeal of 'disaster' movies.

Have at it, Dakka.

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Looking forward to it, but with limited series like this, I tend to wait til the end so I can watch it in bigger servings than HBO's weekly format. Plus I have to finally watch Deadwood so I know whats going on in the movie that is coming out soon

Glad its getting such high praise.

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And here I was hoping for an actual S.T.A.L.K.E.R series. oh well..
   
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Heart of Fadeless Splendour

Auntie Beeb made a fairly haunting, if sensationalist, made-for-TV movie about it as part of their 'Surviving Disaster' series.

In fact, a brief perusal of the interwebs reveals it's a subject Auntie Beeb has visited a lot.

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Волшебная Сказка | Volshebnaya Skazka | A Fairy Tale (updated 08/05/19, ep8 - Звезда | Zvezda | The Star)
Kabal of The Violet Heart (updated 16/07/19)

You know, if there's one thing I've learnt from being in the Army, it's never ignore a pooh-pooh. I knew a Major who got pooh-poohed, made the mistake of ignoring the pooh-pooh. He pooh-poohed it! Fatal error! 'Cause it turned out all along that the soldier who pooh-poohed him had been pooh-poohing a lot of other officers who pooh-poohed their pooh-poohs. In the end, we had to disband the regiment.

 
   
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Why shouldn’t you wear Nuclear Underpants?

Because Chernobyl fall out.

Ithankyou

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Dominating Dominatrix






Southeastern PA, USA

This show has been outstanding through episode 2. Chilling.

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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Why shouldn’t you wear Nuclear Underpants?

Because Chernobyl fall out.

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I had to say that out loud several times before I got it.

 
   
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Mwahahahahah!

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 Captain Joystick wrote:
I don't know if this goes in Geek Media, but I'm geeking out over it so I'm making the call.


Thank you so much for making this thread! I kept meaning to and forgetting.

I hope at least someone on this forum with a good grasp of physics is also watching this and can weigh in on the accuracy of this. I know they streamlined some stuff on the show to make it more "watchable", but last episode some stuff happened that I was kind of dubious on.

Specifically, after the initial explosion, a big plot point was that the nuclear fuel was melting its way down towards the bubbler pools, which were thought to be empty but actually were filled with water - the concern was that if the fuel reached the water, it would superheat, cause a explosion with the force of several orders of magnitude larger that Hiroshima, and would spread fallout across a large part of the Soviet Union.

I don't remember this historically at all, and Wikipedia doesn't go into as much detail as I would have liked - is this accurate?
   
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Dublin, Ireland

Really enjoying this show so far.
Its grim, darn grim so I suggest its not for Sunday evening pre Monday morning work
I love the way they captured the era though, the rooms, offices, equipment, cars, architecture - really spot on.
A good cast too and very well shot.
That ending of ep2 when the lights go out was harrowing.

@ ouze - from other documentaries/films I have seen the superheating water is not true and could well just be creative license. Could be wrong however.

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Dominating Dominatrix






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I'm certainly not a nuclear physicist, so I poked around on the Web about that for a few minutes after the episode. Looked to me like there were at least a few Russian scientists worried about a multi-megaton catastrophe, but there seems to be a lot of doubt elsewhere whether the event would have been anywhere close to that in size. I'm just going to assume that there was a risk of another explosion, and that would have been a bad thing even if it wasn't some kind of massive blast.

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The fear of a steam explosion was real and that was the reason they sent those three men in to open the sluice gates, but I really don't know what the severity of that explosion could be or was estimated to be.

There's a thread on it physics stack exchange and there someone estimated it would have been just under the equivalent of 150 tons of TNT with some pretty math to back it up.

Now that would be enough to catch the nearest reactor causing it to ultimately melt down itself, which would theoretically result in another 50t explosion of its own. None of which combined adds up to the figure that gets described in the show.

That said, the assertion that the explosion could have been between 3 and 5 megatons is not a new one, it crops up from time to time and gets described less as a flash vaporisation of radioactive water and more along the lines of the reactor pile melting down, reaching critical mass somehow and blowing up like a nuclear bomb. Which obviously would throw a lot of radioactive debris around (including the cores of the other tree reactors)

Based on what the showrunners say about how they take multiple accounts of the incident and defer to the most conservative ones, I expect the big explosion risk either was possible due to some factor armchair physicists aren't aware of, was a worse-case scenario estimate made by the Russian scientists (which Watson's character is a composite of), or least likely, a piece of fiction that has recurred so often that there really aren't more conservative estimates in the literature.

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Well, there were three other reactors in the blast radius, not just another one.

As I understand it, as a layperson, the fear was real but overblown. The Beeb docu I mentioned earlier goes into the futility of a lot of the deaths of the workers and rescue personnel.

Then Valery Alekseyevich Legasov hangs himself.

The Fall of Kronstaat IV
Война Народная | Voyna Narodnaya | The People's War - 2,854pts painted (updated 16/07/19)
Волшебная Сказка | Volshebnaya Skazka | A Fairy Tale (updated 08/05/19, ep8 - Звезда | Zvezda | The Star)
Kabal of The Violet Heart (updated 16/07/19)

You know, if there's one thing I've learnt from being in the Army, it's never ignore a pooh-pooh. I knew a Major who got pooh-poohed, made the mistake of ignoring the pooh-pooh. He pooh-poohed it! Fatal error! 'Cause it turned out all along that the soldier who pooh-poohed him had been pooh-poohing a lot of other officers who pooh-poohed their pooh-poohs. In the end, we had to disband the regiment.

 
   
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Missionary On A Mission






 Excommunicatus wrote:
Then Valery Alekseyevich Legasov hangs himself.


Thats the opening scene of this one.

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Norn Queen






Dublin, Ireland

Yep been watching a bit more.
The second explosion happening seems to have been real.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5GTvaW34O0

Check out the video and the bio robots

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 Captain Joystick wrote:
 Excommunicatus wrote:
Then Valery Alekseyevich Legasov hangs himself.


Thats the opening scene of this one.


It sort of is in the Auntie Beeb one too, but then they jump-cut back to the incident and it's then narrated by Legasov.

The Fall of Kronstaat IV
Война Народная | Voyna Narodnaya | The People's War - 2,854pts painted (updated 16/07/19)
Волшебная Сказка | Volshebnaya Skazka | A Fairy Tale (updated 08/05/19, ep8 - Звезда | Zvezda | The Star)
Kabal of The Violet Heart (updated 16/07/19)

You know, if there's one thing I've learnt from being in the Army, it's never ignore a pooh-pooh. I knew a Major who got pooh-poohed, made the mistake of ignoring the pooh-pooh. He pooh-poohed it! Fatal error! 'Cause it turned out all along that the soldier who pooh-poohed him had been pooh-poohing a lot of other officers who pooh-poohed their pooh-poohs. In the end, we had to disband the regiment.

 
   
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Pleasant Valley, Iowa

I knew the fear of a secondary explosion was real, but didn't know it as big as these described. I also hadn't considered the (in retrospect) very obvious fact that even a relatively small explosion would have likely caused more meltdowns from the rest of the facilities.

I remember when this happened, but there wasn't a lot of information available at the time from what I remember.

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Southeastern PA, USA

No there really wasn’t. Was really a different time.

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Dublin, Ireland

Another really powerful episode.
Fast becoming show of the year for me by far.
The scenes in hospital #6 were truly harrowing.

On a relatively lighter note, the naked miners had me giggling.

If you havent watched this show, I thoroughly recommend it.

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LA

I've been enjoying this as well, only slight gripe I may have is the accents. The acting is pretty spot on though so I can forgive it, would be worse if they tried to fake it.

 
   
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Regular Dakkanaut




This show makes the whole Chernobyl event feel on the scale of all of WH40k's most preposterously OTT bits of fluff. The man power, the resources, the sacrifices demanded. Just staggering.

The podcast is one of the very few show companion podcasts I really think adds something. Cracking stuff.
   
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London

Watched the first episode earlier tonight. I've always been very interested in nuclear technology, and even visited the reactor itself in 2015, but not until now have I seen a decent reconstruction of the accident and the immediate aftermath.

I absolutely loved every second of it, although surprised to see Paul Ritter in a serious role, half expected a "Hello Bambinos" when the authorities showed up.
   
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Did you know this was based on a true story? The (U.K.) Sun felt their readers might not.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/6130017/chernobyl-nuclear-disaster-radiation-sky-atlantic-series/

No punchline I can craft will ever be funnier than that.

The Fall of Kronstaat IV
Война Народная | Voyna Narodnaya | The People's War - 2,854pts painted (updated 16/07/19)
Волшебная Сказка | Volshebnaya Skazka | A Fairy Tale (updated 08/05/19, ep8 - Звезда | Zvezda | The Star)
Kabal of The Violet Heart (updated 16/07/19)

You know, if there's one thing I've learnt from being in the Army, it's never ignore a pooh-pooh. I knew a Major who got pooh-poohed, made the mistake of ignoring the pooh-pooh. He pooh-poohed it! Fatal error! 'Cause it turned out all along that the soldier who pooh-poohed him had been pooh-poohing a lot of other officers who pooh-poohed their pooh-poohs. In the end, we had to disband the regiment.

 
   
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Muslpelheim

 Excommunicatus wrote:
Did you know this was based on a true story? The (U.K.) Sun felt their readers might not.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/6130017/chernobyl-nuclear-disaster-radiation-sky-atlantic-series/

No punchline I can craft will ever be funnier than that.


Oh dear! Well I suppose pople whom read such newpapers as the Sun is allowed to be black holes of knowledge most sane folk is expected to have.
   
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The scene from the latest episode, of the poor “bio robots” on the roof, with the Geiger counters screeching and that damn ‘bell’...this show does tension and suspense better than the conjuring movies...and I don’t say that lightly...
   
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Pleasant Valley, Iowa

 Thargrim wrote:
I've been enjoying this as well, only slight gripe I may have is the accents. The acting is pretty spot on though so I can forgive it, would be worse if they tried to fake it.


Emily Watson is particularly guilty of this - she slid into a full on Irish accent briefly last episode.

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The scene from the latest episode, of the poor “bio robots” on the roof, with the Geiger counters screeching and that damn ‘bell’...this show does tension and suspense better than the conjuring movies...and I don’t say that lightly...


Yep that was another stunningly haunting scene. The handheld camera work was terrific on it too.
And that end scene in the hospital with Ludmilla - man that was heart wrenching

As I've stated before easily the best piece of TV this year, hell maybe the last few years. Pity its only 5 episodes.

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Dominating Dominatrix






Southeastern PA, USA

And it's a wrap. Was definitely my favorite show of 2019 so far.

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Very solid miniseries, if a bit of a bummer.
   
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I am looking forward to watching it, I have heard good things.

Now to find a friend's HBO account to steal...

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