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Simple question. I'm not really concerned how you play, but if you actually do.

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I've been slacking the past couple of weeks and havent played(more due to vacation/busy w family). since 8th dropped I would say ive played almost a game a week(sometimes 2). So overall I've played 115ish games in the last 2 years.
   
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Bit of a skewed question there. There are number of people who actively "play", as in, they are active in the hobby and community in some capacity but cannot get a game in for whatever reason. Up until yesterday I was one of those and played my first game since April. But I was still active in the community. I still considered myself to be "playing" 40k even though the actual games were few and far between.

There's a difference between not actively playing the game because you find it terrible (or a myriad of other reasons) and not playing simply due to other life commitments.



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I've been playing two or three games every week for the past 3 weeks after not playing since March. I feel there should be more options as to how frequently someone plays because you'll get a better base to work from.

So far I'm top in the group stage of a local league and mid-table in another one. Catching up with the rules and learning other factions is next on my list so I can win more.

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Well, I have played several games in the 8th but not yet went to a local tourney.
My free time is really short atm.
Frankly, I havent lost a game with my Eldar (incl. Harlie support). But my experience with Harlies was that Jetbikers are good but not the rest.
Then I decided to play my GK with quite good success. Lost one game vs. Mechanicus and won two vs. CSM.

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Also what would you put if you last played 4 years ago and have now sort of quit?

Surely if it's been that long you have effectively quit, whether by choice or not.
   
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Iceland

I am lucky that I have a very strong friend group playing all sorts of GW titles. Currently been knee deep in AoS of late(get a game every other week at least), but then I try to play 40k equally as much.

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I've not played this new edition of 40k. I don't like the over simplification of certain units, and complication of others.

There is now an easy 'beginner' army. And I do not like it.
   
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NE Ohio, USA

Overall, since I retuned to Warhammer last Sept, my WH play time has ended up pretty evenly split between 40k & AoS.
   
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Mechanicum (building/painting)

I have played in the last year although I have yet to play in this calendar year.

Would like to get regular games in but too much IRL in the way. God, I hate IRL.

   
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I am finding myself rapidly moving away from 40K and on to the board games, Shadespire, BSF, AT, etc. Balancing rules is all fine and well but with little free time I want a more static rule set.

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Roscommon, Ireland

8th killed my interest in 40k, I use the miniatures for From Dark Future now. Apocalypse has me interested, as it seems to have a lot of the rules I have wanted 40K to adopt since the early 00's.

Regular 40k has been going down hill since 5th edition, 8th doesn't seem to be changing that trend. I hope that Apocalypse is a test bee for new ideas that we see in 8th edition. I doubt it will happen, but live in hope that GW will make 40k a fun game.

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Yep not as much as I would like though

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Holy Terra

 Asherian Command wrote:
I've not played this new edition of 40k. I don't like the over simplification of certain units, and complication of others.

There is now an easy 'beginner' army. And I do not like it.


How do you know you don't like it if you haven't payed it? Theory and Practice are different things.

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Got sick and tired playing against people so I play solo now but 40k is not the game to do this. Played 3 games and will play my 4th next week.

 
   
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Near Jupiter.

Played one game and it was great, but im paranoid as feth about my models, and i dont want to varnish them, so i dont know how to solve this issue. But once i get over this ill play every 2 weeks.

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Holy Terra

 stonehorse wrote:
8th killed my interest in 40k, I use the miniatures for From Dark Future now. Apocalypse has me interested, as it seems to have a lot of the rules I have wanted 40K to adopt since the early 00's.

Regular 40k has been going down hill since 5th edition, 8th doesn't seem to be changing that trend. I hope that Apocalypse is a test bee for new ideas that we see in 8th edition. I doubt it will happen, but live in hope that GW will make 40k a fun game.


You are very wrong. Do you ever consider that your personal tastes are not shared by the vast majority of hobbyists? By what metric is it not a fun game? There are more players engaging than at any point in the past, having a great time. The brand is more successful than ever as a result.

There are some people who don't like Pizza. You're one of those people.
The vast majority love it.

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Only thing I can say is that Warhammer 40k and AoS have never been more popular at my FLGS. Tourneys - especially the 40k ones - are filled and people are always playing on Warhammer game nights.

Whatever GW has been doing they have been doing the right thing because people are excited, having fun, and want to play. For both 40k and AoS there are a lot of people coming out of the woodwork who left a few editions(WHFB in case of AoS) ago.

Incidentally my nation really loves pizza.

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 Ishagu wrote:
 stonehorse wrote:
8th killed my interest in 40k, I use the miniatures for From Dark Future now. Apocalypse has me interested, as it seems to have a lot of the rules I have wanted 40K to adopt since the early 00's.

Regular 40k has been going down hill since 5th edition, 8th doesn't seem to be changing that trend. I hope that Apocalypse is a test bee for new ideas that we see in 8th edition. I doubt it will happen, but live in hope that GW will make 40k a fun game.


You are very wrong. Do you ever consider that your personal tastes are not shared by the vast majority of hobbyists? By what metric is it not a fun game? There are more players engaging than at any point in the past, having a great time. The brand is more successful than ever as a result.

There are some people who don't like Pizza. You're one of those people.
The vast majority love it.


If you'd stop white-knighting for GW for a second, you might realise that it's pretty clear in this context stonehorse is talking from a personal point of view, which would be the safe assumption whenever anyone comments on a purely subjective thing like fun. You don't have to preface every single point on a discussion board with "in my opinion".
   
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 Stormatious wrote:
Played one game and it was great, but im paranoid as feth about my models, and i dont want to varnish them, so i dont know how to solve this issue. But once i get over this ill play every 2 weeks.


I know its a bit off topic, but do you not want to varnish your minis because you don't want them glossy?

Because they make matte varnishes.
   
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Holy Terra

Slipspace wrote:
 Ishagu wrote:
 stonehorse wrote:
8th killed my interest in 40k, I use the miniatures for From Dark Future now. Apocalypse has me interested, as it seems to have a lot of the rules I have wanted 40K to adopt since the early 00's.

Regular 40k has been going down hill since 5th edition, 8th doesn't seem to be changing that trend. I hope that Apocalypse is a test bee for new ideas that we see in 8th edition. I doubt it will happen, but live in hope that GW will make 40k a fun game.


You are very wrong. Do you ever consider that your personal tastes are not shared by the vast majority of hobbyists? By what metric is it not a fun game? There are more players engaging than at any point in the past, having a great time. The brand is more successful than ever as a result.

There are some people who don't like Pizza. You're one of those people.
The vast majority love it.


If you'd stop white-knighting for GW for a second, you might realise that it's pretty clear in this context stonehorse is talking from a personal point of view, which would be the safe assumption whenever anyone comments on a purely subjective thing like fun. You don't have to preface every single point on a discussion board with "in my opinion".


He hasn't given a single reason for his dislike. Just that it's somehow a downward trend since 5th, even though the game is vastly different now. He's being an unreasonable, vocal minority and if I see someone being hyperbolic I will call them out.

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 Ishagu wrote:
Slipspace wrote:
 Ishagu wrote:
 stonehorse wrote:
8th killed my interest in 40k, I use the miniatures for From Dark Future now. Apocalypse has me interested, as it seems to have a lot of the rules I have wanted 40K to adopt since the early 00's.

Regular 40k has been going down hill since 5th edition, 8th doesn't seem to be changing that trend. I hope that Apocalypse is a test bee for new ideas that we see in 8th edition. I doubt it will happen, but live in hope that GW will make 40k a fun game.


You are very wrong. Do you ever consider that your personal tastes are not shared by the vast majority of hobbyists? By what metric is it not a fun game? There are more players engaging than at any point in the past, having a great time. The brand is more successful than ever as a result.

There are some people who don't like Pizza. You're one of those people.
The vast majority love it.


If you'd stop white-knighting for GW for a second, you might realise that it's pretty clear in this context stonehorse is talking from a personal point of view, which would be the safe assumption whenever anyone comments on a purely subjective thing like fun. You don't have to preface every single point on a discussion board with "in my opinion".


He hasn't given a single reason for his dislike. Just that it's somehow a downward trend since 5th, even though the game is vastly different now. He's being an unreasonable, vocal minority and if I see someone being hyperbolic I will call them out.


Ok here we go...

1) the removal of fire arcs.
2) fliers turning on a hair pin, ever played Epic? That is how fliers should operate. Having fliers, especially super sonic jets turn like they can in a 28mm scale game is ludicrous.
3) malestrom missions make for an odd goals, seems like command is schizophrenic.
4) command points, while a great idea in principle, they have been badly handled.
5) true line of sight.
6) how in melee models seem to be unimportant, and fall into bases, many times I had Carnifexes literally touching a model with the claws, however as the model was on higher ground my base couldn't get within the needed distance... so no combat.
7) characters being immune to being targeted if a unit is closer and out of los.
8) random numbers for the sake of random... whether that be number of attacks, or damage.
9) detailed rules for individual pistols and colossal war machines... all resolved with a D6.
10) the inescapable feeling that 8th is a testbed for rules, it feels time and time again that 8th is a beta we have paid for. I have honestly lost count of the amount of rules changes made to the core rules since buying Dark Imperium.

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Holy Terra

All those things improved the game by removing needless book keeping, measuring, and making it more tactical for players.

How often do you play? Why don't you play 30k if you hate everything new?

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I played on Tuesday.

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Last game of 40k I played was in March of 2018. I've not really been avoiding the game or anything like that, I just haven't had the urge to play it. I guess I'm not into the new rules, and even giving them a fair shot (and about 10 games), I just can't enjoy it. I keep in touch with what's going on in the hobby, and contact within the community, because I enjoy the engagement and being able to have a good perspective and idea of what people are talking about, and the new hotness.
   
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 Ishagu wrote:
All those things improved the game by removing needless book keeping, measuring, and making it more tactical for players.


Really? All of them? Command points reduce book keeping? Maelstrom makes the game more tactical? The scale discrepancy is more tactical? You may not agree with all of their reasons but they seem reasonable enough for someone to subjectively decide 40k isn't fun. As to how often they play, I think their previous response seems pretty clear that they don't any more.
   
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Roscommon, Ireland

 Ishagu wrote:
All those things improved the game by removing needless book keeping, measuring, and making it more tactical for players.

How often do you play? Why don't you play 30k if you hate everything new?


Tactical! Haha, good joke.

8th boils down to rolling buckets of dice, and using combos/stratagems to manipulate the dice to get the desired number.

Movement is near enough pointless, other than to get into range.

GW can make good games, with elegant rules. One that springs to mind is Betrayal at Calth. That game is hands down the best GW game that no one played.

40K is more popular now than it ever had been, bit that doesn't mean much. Popularity is no indicator of quality or value... McDonald's is one if not the most popular restaurant. Popularity indicates a successful marketing team and brand recognition.

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Holy Terra

 stonehorse wrote:
 Ishagu wrote:
All those things improved the game by removing needless book keeping, measuring, and making it more tactical for players.

How often do you play? Why don't you play 30k if you hate everything new?


Tactical! Haha, good joke.

8th boils down to rolling buckets of dice, and using combos/stratagems to manipulate the dice to get the desired number.

Movement is near enough pointless, other than to get into range.

GW can make good games, with elegant rules. One that springs to mind is Betrayal at Calth. That game is hands down the best GW game that no one played.

40K is more popular now than it ever had been, bit that doesn't mean much. Popularity is no indicator of quality or value... McDonald's is one if not the most popular restaurant. Popularity indicates a successful marketing team and brand recognition.


You said so much wrong. Movement wins the game - anyone actually experienced can tell you that.

You are clearly lacking experience at a high level of play, so you should stop making statements about things you don't fully understand. How many games have you played in the last month and at what level? One game in your living room is not the same indicator of a game a 6 games at a tournament where people use different armies, tactics and strategies to illustrate the breadth of the game.

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That's the odd thing though. Is it really that great if nobody was interested in playing it? Likewise, is something really bad if it appeals to so many people?
   
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 Ishagu wrote:
All those things improved the game by removing needless book keeping, measuring, and making it more tactical for players.

How often do you play? Why don't you play 30k if you hate everything new?


1) he doesn't have to give you reasons to state his opinions.

2) 40k is about as tactical as monopoly. In that there is only 1 tactic.


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