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New starter set coming for Kill Team: rulebook, Sector Mechanicus terrain, 5 Reivers and 10 Fire Warriors.




https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/08/03/apocalypse-mega-battle-and-warhammer-40000-previewgw-homepage-post-1/

When we released the original Warhammer 40,000: Kill Team Starter Set, it proved to be incredibly popular. After all, not only is the game great, but the box had loads of miniatures (two kill teams, no less!), terrain and a gameboard. That being the case, we thought we’d make another one to help new players to get started, but with two different kill teams and terrain. It’s not only a great way to get into the game, but it’s perfect for splitting with one of your friends!

If you’re already a fan of Warhammer 40,000: Kill Team, fear not – we think the rules are awesome, so haven’t changed a thing! The new box features a kill team of Space Marine Reivers (the Fangs of Ulfrich) pitted against the Fire Warriors of the T’au Empire (Advance Team Starpulse) across the amazing Sector Mechanicus terrain.

Ferocity and formidable combat skill faces off against deadly ranged weaponry and coordinated fire support – it certainly makes for an exciting dynamic!


Nothing new, nothing particularly exciting, but good news because this’ll keep the game alive and will finally make it once again accessible to newcomers. Whether the set is a good deal will remain to be seen, of course..

Also interesting that the rules will remain the same even though some recent and upcoming releases (Chaos and regular Marines) might warrant changes to some datasheets. Still good news that the existing rulebook won’t become outdated already.
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I was hoping they would take this opportunity to wrap all the expansions into the main book. Pipe dream, I know. Still might pick it up

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So this is:
Tau starter (Advance Team Starpulse)
Space Wolves starter (Fangs of Ulfrich)
Sector Mechanicus killzone
rulebook
tactics cards

...but minus the extra terrain from the two starters? I think that might be the Sector Imperialis board instead of the one that came with the killzone, but I'd have to check.

I'll be honest, if the killzone and two starters were still available, I don't think this would be a really great deal - especially if they jack up the price the to now standard $170.

Edit: The SM killzone also had a bunch of pipes that this one is lacking.

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So my prediction is true, KT got a new starter, that'd be good news for Warcry once it's first season starter sold out. Although the terrain here is much thinner than the old starter. (probably because these aren't "made in china" terrain)

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My local GW store manager told me, literally just yesterday, that Kill Team was being discontinued and there would not be a new starter set.

Glad to see that's not the case and there will be continued support. With how's it's been selling, it's honestly a surprise it took this long to get another set out since it's all existing products.

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Pretty lame starter, especially with the amount of terrain you get.

   
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Fire Warrior is an example of old GW wasting resources to make unnecessary bits. They got 3-sprues but barely had any interesting options compared to the 2 sprue Pathfinder. Lots of space was wasted to haul all those extra heads, shoulder pads and backpacks.

I think the reason they pit these 2 because they both barely had any options available to them. Picking something like CSM vs these Primaris would make the Primasris side look pale
   
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It’s odd. Smart money thought the new Starter would be new Sisters plus a recycled army and recycled terrain.

Any idea on price? It has to be cheaper or why bother.
   
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 Chairman Aeon wrote:
It’s odd. Smart money thought the new Starter would be new Sisters plus a recycled army and recycled terrain.

Any idea on price? It has to be cheaper or why bother.


(Speculation) Same price of old starter or 150USD. New GW price and all.

Also these 2 Killteams are the exact same teams that was sold in the past : Fang of Ulrich and Advance team Starpulse. So none of these content is new

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Chopstick wrote:

Also these 2 Killteams are the exact same teams that was sold in the past : Fang of Ulrich and Advance team Starpulse. So none of these content is new
The teams are the same, but it's missing the terrain that came in those boxes. They also included 4 narrative/matched play mission cards each, that were specific to that terrain, and terrain-specific tactics cards. So the Tau had wall of martyrs terrain, along with a martyrs tactic, and its 4 mission cards all took place on wall of martyrs boards. It's anybody's guess whether those will be included (I doubt it though). Fangs of Ulrich were Sector Mechanicus, so who knows? I don't think the original KT starter had mission cards?

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I think it is okay if sells for the same price as the original starter. It is obviously not as good of a deal being less terrain and such. But Kill Team is more known quantity a year out and probably isn't going to shift is many starters as a good chunk of potential players are already in or have moved on at this point.

Personally, I would think that re-using the Deathwatch, or even Scions, set would have been a better choice, but Reivers vs. Tau is fine. Though, high melee vs. high ranged don't seem like it is going to offer much in the way of interesting games either. Although, I think I like the factions in this starter more than the ones in the original Kill Team starter.

This is definitely more or a new player starter than a veteran 40k player just wanting the box for cheap miniatures kind of set though.

   
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I'm just hoping that a new starter set means that the killzones will be reprinted too. Those were WAY too difficult to get a hold of. I think Miniature Market only got 5 copies total of the Sector Fronteris zone.

Maybe now that the starter doesn't include the Sector Imperialis, they can break that out into a killzone box for everybody who missed the starter set last time. It's always driven me nuts that the killzone rules were in the manual and it didn't get a card like the all the others.
   
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 Sqorgar wrote:
I'm just hoping that a new starter set means that the killzones will be reprinted too. Those were WAY too difficult to get a hold of. I think Miniature Market only got 5 copies total of the Sector Fronteris zone.

Maybe now that the starter doesn't include the Sector Imperialis, they can break that out into a killzone box for everybody who missed the starter set last time. It's always driven me nuts that the killzone rules were in the manual and it didn't get a card like the all the others.


I too hope for more sector fronteris terrain. It's nice stuff. It's really strange that a kit hasn't come out with the stuff that was in there yet.
   
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 Saturmorn Carvilli wrote:
Though, high melee vs. high ranged don't seem like it is going to offer much in the way of interesting games either. Although, I think I like the factions in this starter more than the ones in the original Kill Team starter.
At least Reivers have a chance against Tau Fire Warriors. They are a waste of points usually. Either you need power weapons for MEQ, or the Terror Troops rule is useless as its all Hormagaunts with a single Tyranid Warrior bunkered down out of LOS.

And while the terrain isn't as good a deal as the original starter, that isn't a surprise. Just a limited time thing to drum up enthusiasm at launch.

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I bet the first one sold out so fast just because 8/10 bought it just for terrain deal, not the game itself. And now they present us with a two year old terrain which isn’t that useful in game and most already bought plenty.

   
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Quasistellar wrote:I too hope for more sector fronteris terrain. It's nice stuff. It's really strange that a kit hasn't come out with the stuff that was in there yet.
A lot of it is in Moonbase Klassius (or whatever it is called), but it has that unique building with a roof - I mean, that's just a handy piece of terrain, and it was available in extremely limited quantities for an extremely limited time.

Ancestral Hamster wrote:And while the terrain isn't as good a deal as the original starter, that isn't a surprise.
I think they are trying as hard as possible to make this starter set as unappealing as possible for people who already play Kill Team. This is really for new players, and if only new players buy it, maybe it will stick around for a few months so that they can casually pick it up.
   
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Just realized this is just Shadow War Armageddon with a board and less minis.
   
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Yeah the Fronteris set was great because it's one of the few buildings GW has offered lately that isn't a ruin. You could make some sweet buildings or ship corridors etc with it. I regret only buying one but by the time I realized it was that good it was gone :(

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Not having a permanently available starter set was a mistake so I'm glad that's being rectified with this set.

That being said the choice of scenery isn't particularly versatile (when compared with the original box set) and personally I'd have chosen Orks over Tau (my prejudice, make of it what you will).

Perhaps the idea with the scenery choice is to make fewer line of sight checks, simplifying the game for beginners.

It will help them sell their better scenery kits I think. And Orks
   
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 CodeKantorBlue wrote:

Perhaps the idea with the scenery choice is to make fewer line of sight checks, simplifying the game for beginners.

It will help them sell their better scenery kits I think. And Orks


Nah, Those Sector Mechanicus kit is GW "Made in UK" high quality scenery kit, that's why they usually don't give you lots of those compare to their cheaper "made in china" scenery.

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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Pretty lame starter, especially with the amount of terrain you get.


Looks like the "normal" amount to me - same as was in SWA and in the Kill Zone, just with the diagonal platform sprue replaced by a second big boiler sprue.

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 lord_blackfang wrote:
 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Pretty lame starter, especially with the amount of terrain you get.


Looks like the "normal" amount to me - same as was in SWA and in the Kill Zone, just with the diagonal platform sprue replaced by a second big boiler sprue.
Shadow War had at least a diagonal platform sprue and another octagonal platform sprue (could've made much bigger platforms), and the Sector Mechanicus killzone had several additional sprues of plasma pipes that would've made a huge difference in how empty that board feels on the ground level.
   
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Well on the other hand Shadow Wars was packed with decade old unit like Boyz and Scout.
   
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Nice to see them bring back a starter set for those interested in Kill Team. It certainly is strange to not have an introductory set available for one of your games.

On the starter itself, the models choices are fine, but the terrain is severally lacking. I think you would need at least 5-6 pieces of scatter terrain to make this board remotely playable on. I could see this amount of terrain on a Warcry board as their isn't much ranged weapon with range of 3 or more, but in 40k? Seems like a massacre waiting to happen.

   
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Understand some of the comments but personally need a few reivers to finish a primaris kill team and was thinking of dabbling in some Tau.

Looks like another buy.
   
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 Chairman Aeon wrote:
It’s odd. Smart money thought the new Starter would be new Sisters plus a recycled army and recycled terrain.

Any idea on price? It has to be cheaper or why bother.


In my mind it was Never going to be something like Sisters.
They are going to make a killing on the Battle Sisters set.
It won’t be in bundles, boxes or anything. Just £40 for 10 or whatever they’re at.

This makes complete sense.
Super old kit, that costs nothing.
Newer popular kit, pays itself off very early on, and can be thrown in to make the box look good.
(Also, the pamphlets for each are all already made up etc right?
   
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I'm gonna have to crunch numbers when this drops to see if its worth it. My local store still has the Tau starter box in stock. I never ended up grabbing it because of money, and I didn't care about the wall of martyrs terrain. I collect sector mechanicus scenery, so this might end up being a worthwhile purchase for me.

   
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It looks like 7 frames worth of Mechanicus terrain, so one less than Shadow War Armageddon and original Kill Team starter set. Kill Zone: Sector Mechanicus had 6 frames of Mechanicus terrain and two frames of pipes.

Spruewise this is the same amount of terrain than Warcry starter set but Mechanicus terrain doesn't fill the table as effectively so it looks like a small amount.

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It's this kit and this kit and an extra one of these sprues.

Nothing to write home about.

   
 
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