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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/10 16:48:09
Subject: Re:Dark Heresy - Rogue Trader - Death Watch - Black Crusade news and rumours
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Dakka Veteran
Las Vegas, NV, USA
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The sword is mighter than the pen:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hB19tHMS94&NR=1
I wonder how much the Dark Hersey Daemonhunters book and the Grey Knights codex will conflict on fluff.
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"After all, the Space Marines need something to fight against, and it can't always be Chaos!" -Phil Kelly |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/10 16:50:50
Subject: Dark Heresy - Rogue Trader - Death Watch - Black Crusade news and rumours
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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What does chocolate have to do with hunting Daemons...?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/10 17:27:47
Subject: Dark Heresy - Rogue Trader - Death Watch - Black Crusade news and rumours
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Phanobi
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It does not have anything to do with it. But chocolate gives a good feeling.
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http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/463976.page (Space Sharks and Tau)
DJ @ http://www.rockindocradio.net
Mon, Thursday+Fri 06am - 09am EST
We refuse to take sides in this anymore. And we refuse to let you turn us against one another. We know who we are now, we can find our own way between order and chaos...
It's over because we've decided it's over. Now get the hell out of our galaxy! Both of you.
"Whoever takes purple sash is purple, and follows purple leader." I follow purple tau. Theophony
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/10 19:02:37
Subject: Re:Dark Heresy - Rogue Trader - Death Watch - Black Crusade news and rumours
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[DCM]
Et In Arcadia Ego
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temprus wrote:
I wonder how much the Dark Hersey Daemonhunters book and the Grey Knights codex will conflict on fluff.
Not much at all. Automatically Appended Next Post: Good old FFG
Greetings, Deathwatch fans! Today, we’re pleased to present new, free downloadable content for Deathwatch. In celebration of the recent release of Rites of Battle, please enjoy The Nemesis Incident, an 8-page .pdf focusing on the various mysteries and enigmas that shroud the history of many significant Space Marine Chapters.
The Space Wolves, for instance, are known to voyage out into the stars searching for their missing Primarch, Leman Russ. Known as Great Hunts, these journeys have so far found no sign of the Primarch, but have nevertheless brought the Space Wolves great glory and renown for the deeds they have accomplished and the enemies that they have cast down whilst pursuing a Great Hunt.
But seeking the trail of a Primarch is just one example of a Chapter Mystery. To find out more, download The Nemesis Incident below, or on the support page:
The Nemesis Incident (web quality pdf, 2 MB)
The Nemesis Incident (print quality pdf, 27.7 MB)
Deathwatch is a roleplaying game in which players take on the roles of the bio-engineered super-soldiers known as Space Marines. United with their battle-brothers, players will complete extraordinary missions involving some of the greatest heroes and deadliest opponents the Warhammer 40,000 universe has to offer.
http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/edge_news.asp?eidn=2041
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/10 22:51:16
Subject: Dark Heresy - Rogue Trader - Death Watch - Black Crusade news and rumours
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Lord of the Fleet
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Hello Rogue Traders!
This week I’d like to take a few minutes about some of the new things in Battlefleet Koronus, the upcoming supplement for Rogue Trader. This extensive sourcebook is all about about the starships that traverse the Koronus Expanse, and today we’ll look at two new classes of them: the battlecruiser and the grand cruiser.
The Big Guns
Battlecruisers, like their name suggests, are upgunned cruisers. In the Imperial Navy cruisers are the warships that do most of the work: patrols, garrison duties, convoy escorts, and when full-fledged fleet engagements break out, they’re the ships forming the battle line. Battleships, on the other hand, are few and far between. Though tremendously powerful, they are inflexible in their roles, and usually reserved for fleet flagships or key roles in the largest fleet engagements.
However, a gap exists between cruiser-sized vessels and full battleships, and the the battlecruiser fills that gap in the Imperial Navy. Battlecruisers share the size and maneuverability of a cruiser, but sacrifice space to fit more, longer-ranged weapons. Beyond new macrobatteries and lances powerful enough that they require the specialized fittings and hull design of a battlecruiser, these powerful warships usually sport dorsal weapon mounts, giving them even more combat flexibility. Most importantly, while almost no Rogue Trader could afford to operate and maintain a battleship, a battlecruiser might barely be within one’s means.
Of course, since battlecruisers don’t have any more space than an average cruiser, the additional weapons do mean that battlecruisers may be less flexible for other endeavors. A Rogue Trader with a battlecruiser is likely one anticipating a great deal of combat.
Ponderous and Powerful
While a battlecruiser is a modified cruiser, a grand cruiser is a different beast entirely. Ponderous, slow, and powerful, grand cruisers are an ancient relic of a bygone age. Once they filled the gap between cruiser and battleship in the Imperial Navy, but now most are relegated to reserve fleets, mothballed in storage, or granted to the occasional Rogue Trader wealthy enough to afford them.
Interestingly, though the Navy finds the less costly and more agile battlecruiser a more potent warship, many Rogue Traders find the grand cruiser a more useful vessel for their needs. Though very heavily armed, grand cruisers have so much space that a Rogue Trader can outfit his vessel for almost any task, from decade-long voyages of exploration to full-scale planetary invasions.
One of the few drawbacks of grand cruisers is that they’re outside the price range of almost every starting group. However, this provides something for a group to work towards. Grand cruisers should never be common in the Koronus Expanse, and the group that manages to obtain one shows themselves to be a force to be reckoned with.
Later this month, watch the shelves of your local game store for Battlefleet Koronus!
So IN and Chaos heavy cruisers like the Cardinal and Hades classes won't be in, huh? That sucks. But we'll get the Mars class, (if the picture is right, and those are turrets on top that Dictator hull)) who's fluff states it's ridiculously rare even by Navy standards, production having stopped entirely 4k years before present. Meaning that Murders are more common in IN then this thing is.
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Fate is in heaven, armor is on the chest, accomplishment is in the feet. - Nagao Kagetora
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/10 23:09:52
Subject: Dark Heresy - Rogue Trader - Death Watch - Black Crusade news and rumours
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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*ahem*
Posted all that on the last page.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/11 11:30:26
Subject: Dark Heresy - Rogue Trader - Death Watch - Black Crusade news and rumours
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Lord of the Fleet
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You know, one thing I've long pondered. In fluff, the appearance of IN ship minis is a peculiarity of the Gothic sector. So why is it that they always look like that no matter WHERE the ships are, anymore?
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Fate is in heaven, armor is on the chest, accomplishment is in the feet. - Nagao Kagetora
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/11 11:36:37
Subject: Dark Heresy - Rogue Trader - Death Watch - Black Crusade news and rumours
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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Because that's the style of Imperial ships. We don't get much variation. It could also be the STC systems.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/11 11:38:14
Subject: Dark Heresy - Rogue Trader - Death Watch - Black Crusade news and rumours
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
A garden grove on Citadel Station
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BaronIveagh wrote:You know, one thing I've long pondered. In fluff, the appearance of IN ship minis is a peculiarity of the Gothic sector. So why is it that they always look like that no matter WHERE the ships are, anymore?
There isn't any other examples of non-Gothic sector ships aside from a few light cruisers. It's best if they stick to "canon" ship designs, rather than make up a whole new architectural style.
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ph34r's Forgeworld Phobos blog, current WIP: Iron Warriors and Skaven Tau
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/11 13:12:27
Subject: Re:Dark Heresy - Rogue Trader - Death Watch - Black Crusade news and rumours
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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The Space Wolves, for instance, are known to voyage out into the stars searching for their missing Primarch, Leman Russ. Known as Great Hunts, these journeys have so far found no sign of the Primarch, but have nevertheless brought the Space Wolves great glory and renown for the deeds they have accomplished and the enemies that they have cast down whilst pursuing a Great Hunt.
A voyage "into the stars" would imo be a very very hot, least to say short one.
Sorry...just had to
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Salamanders W-78 D-55 L-22
Pure Grey Knights W-18 D-10 L-5
Orks W-9 D-6 L-14
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/11 14:46:19
Subject: Dark Heresy - Rogue Trader - Death Watch - Black Crusade news and rumours
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Blood Angel Neophyte Undergoing Surgeries
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Kanluwen wrote:
Either way: It's nice to see the 'martial honour' part of Khorne return. I'm fething sick and tired of this idea of every single devotee of Khorne being a World Eaters Berzerker.
Glad I'm not the only one who's thinking it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/11 16:14:04
Subject: Dark Heresy - Rogue Trader - Death Watch - Black Crusade news and rumours
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Phanobi
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There is the Avatar from Storm Of Iron
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http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/463976.page (Space Sharks and Tau)
DJ @ http://www.rockindocradio.net
Mon, Thursday+Fri 06am - 09am EST
We refuse to take sides in this anymore. And we refuse to let you turn us against one another. We know who we are now, we can find our own way between order and chaos...
It's over because we've decided it's over. Now get the hell out of our galaxy! Both of you.
"Whoever takes purple sash is purple, and follows purple leader." I follow purple tau. Theophony
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/11 17:16:44
Subject: Re:Dark Heresy - Rogue Trader - Death Watch - Black Crusade news and rumours
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Rogue Trader: Battlefleet Koronus shows NOW SHIPPING!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/11 17:42:40
Subject: Dark Heresy - Rogue Trader - Death Watch - Black Crusade news and rumours
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Lord of the Fleet
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Huzzah! My review might come out this month then!
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Fate is in heaven, armor is on the chest, accomplishment is in the feet. - Nagao Kagetora
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/14 15:48:41
Subject: Dark Heresy - Rogue Trader - Death Watch - Black Crusade news and rumours
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Lord of the Fleet
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I know it's a serial post but: Dark Reign is finally starting to release the winners of their Rogue Trader short story contest. Head over and check em out.
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Fate is in heaven, armor is on the chest, accomplishment is in the feet. - Nagao Kagetora
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/14 16:21:58
Subject: Re:Dark Heresy - Rogue Trader - Death Watch - Black Crusade news and rumours
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Dakka Veteran
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reds8n wrote:temprus wrote:
I wonder how much the Dark Hersey Daemonhunters book and the Grey Knights codex will conflict on fluff.
Not much at all.
Ouch. That's not exactly a glowing endorsement.
I guess the RP side can deal with the "gems" from M Night Shalamaward too.
Everything is fair right?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/16 17:54:13
Subject: Re:Dark Heresy - Rogue Trader - Death Watch - Black Crusade news and rumours
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Picked up my copy of Battlefleet Koronus a little while ago. WOW!
This opens up a whole new avenue of play - complete integrated space/ground campaigns. It's all there. Haven't had much time to soak in much but there are 20 new Imperial hulls and many new components. Comprehensive ship listings for Orks, Eldar, Chaos and a couple of minor Xenos - essentially NPC vessels with some customization capabilities, not a build-system as you have with Imperial ships. Torpedo, Strike Craft and Nova Cannons as promised with lots of options. Squadron actions, including how to run your subordinate NPC ships. Definitions of ranks, background and key ships of Battlefleet Calixis and Koronos. Methods for determining refitting based on PF & system-specific qualities. Ground and atmospheric air force rules including guidelines for Titans and Adeptus Astartes.
Seriously, a very nice piece of work.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/17 08:26:20
Subject: Re:Dark Heresy - Rogue Trader - Death Watch - Black Crusade news and rumours
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[DCM]
Et In Arcadia Ego
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Cool, just waiting for mine to arrive. Good to know it's another winner.
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king, |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/17 21:24:13
Subject: Re:Dark Heresy - Rogue Trader - Death Watch - Black Crusade news and rumours
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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Finally they announce Daemon Hunter:
FFG wrote:Hunting the Warp
From beyond reality, Daemons incessantly scrabble and claw at the minds of mortal men. The evil bubbling forth in the souls of the heretical constantly strains at the seams of the very fabric of space and time. From one breach, enough foul beasts may pour forth to consume and damn billions of Imperial souls.
Fantasy Flight Games is pleased to announce the upcoming release of Daemon Hunter, a supplement for Dark Heresy. The Inquisitors of the Ordo Malleus and the Space Marines of the Grey Knights are the chosen warriors of the God-Emperor, tasked with keeping humanity from falling into darkness. They hunt tirelessly to rid the Imperium of their collective prey: Daemons.
Daemon Hunter is a powerful resource for any Dark Heresy campaigns featuring the servants of the holy Ordo Malleus of the Inquisition. With information and background on the Ordo Malleus in the Calixis Sector, the Daemon hunter’s trade, and the Malleus armoury, Daemon Hunter is the perfect companion for players and GMs alike who wish to craft exciting campaigns for Dark Heresy.
Learn the ropes of daemon hunting with an extensive look at the origins and status of the Ordo Malleus. Then, take up arms as an acolyte in service to the Ordo Malleus by becoming a Banisher, taking the fight to the daemons. Also, learn the tools of the trade by studying the Malleus Armoury, which presents new tools for every tier of character.
Finally, Daemon Hunter includes everything players and GMs need to include Grey Knights into their Dark Heresy campaigns!
Developer Mack Martin took a moment to share his insights on the design process of Daemon Hunter:
Salutations Acolytes,
Throughout the development and testing process of Daemon Hunter, the Dark Heresy Development Team was embarrassingly giddy over the stories that the talented pool of writers created for the Ordo Malleus in the Calixis Sector. From the Scholariate at Arms (a new faction within the Ordo Malleus) to the Grey Knights, every page has as much information as we could fit onto it. New Acolyte alternate career ranks, cell directives, and equipment fill this hefty tome.
Of course you can’t have Daemon Hunters without daemons! The Daemonic Incursion chapter (written by Charles May and Ross Watson) gives GMs the tools to generate daemons with a variety of power levels and horrible tricks. Lesser Daemons, Heralds, and Greater Daemons are all as easy to create as an Acolyte, with a wide range of theme and combat strategy. Whether the GM needs a Bloodletter forged from blood and brass to challenge a group of Acolytes or a Keeper of Secrets to fight a squad of Grey Knights, the GM will never run out of daemons.
Oh... did we mention Grey Knights? The Warhammer 40k Roleplay community has had a lot of fun taking up the mantle of a Deathwatch Space Marine, and now they get the chance to take on the role of a Grey Knight. Daemon Hunter presents rules compatible with Dark Heresy for both PC and NPC Grey Knights. There are also additional rules and advice for including Grey Knights in a campaign using the Deathwatch Rulebook instead.
As we get closer to release we hope to discuss these topics in more detail, but until then, remember... “Innocence Proves Nothing.”
Thanks, Mack! Say alert, more information on Daemon Hunter is coming soon!
Very soon, hopefully.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/17 21:41:55
Subject: Re:Dark Heresy - Rogue Trader - Death Watch - Black Crusade news and rumours
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[MOD]
Decrepit Dakkanaut
Cozy cockpit of an Archer ARC-5S
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Chances are it will have the same stuff as found in the GK codex, only a million times better.
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Fatum Iustum Stultorum
Fiat justitia ruat caelum
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/17 22:10:38
Subject: Re:Dark Heresy - Rogue Trader - Death Watch - Black Crusade news and rumours
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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BrookM wrote:Chances are it will have the same stuff as found in the GK codex, only a million times better.
That's stating the obvious really.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/17 22:17:32
Subject: Re:Dark Heresy - Rogue Trader - Death Watch - Black Crusade news and rumours
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[MOD]
Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I am something of a captain obvious, here's my next obvious observation: All we need to do now is cleanse the GW studio of this Wardism and have some of the FFG people rehired by GW.
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Fatum Iustum Stultorum
Fiat justitia ruat caelum
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/17 22:24:17
Subject: Dark Heresy - Rogue Trader - Death Watch - Black Crusade news and rumours
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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If the FFG people get rehired by GW, then who will write the FFG books? Me?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/17 22:42:19
Subject: Re:Dark Heresy - Rogue Trader - Death Watch - Black Crusade news and rumours
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[MOD]
Decrepit Dakkanaut
Cozy cockpit of an Archer ARC-5S
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You have more common sense than GW, so why not? You can tackle the Death Watch books and finally write in that army you've got! I'll take over Rogue Trader and my first project will be a source book dedicated to the much underplayed costume porn the game has. It needs more lace and tricorn hats damn it!
In all seriousness, I called my FLGS and demanded they put me on top of the list for BattleFleet Koronus, I want it more than ever after I found out that the man behind BFG and a lot of Imperial Navy fluff has helped writing it.
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Fatum Iustum Stultorum
Fiat justitia ruat caelum
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/17 22:47:35
Subject: Dark Heresy - Rogue Trader - Death Watch - Black Crusade news and rumours
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Cowboy Wannabe
Sacramento
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I wonder if BF Koronus could be used to add some more depth to a BFG campaign? Or would it be too detailed for that?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/17 22:49:04
Subject: Re:Dark Heresy - Rogue Trader - Death Watch - Black Crusade news and rumours
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[MOD]
Decrepit Dakkanaut
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They used BFG as inspiration and framework for their own spaceship battles, so it shouldn't be too hard to mesh it all together.
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Fatum Iustum Stultorum
Fiat justitia ruat caelum
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/17 22:49:30
Subject: Dark Heresy - Rogue Trader - Death Watch - Black Crusade news and rumours
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The New Miss Macross!
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definitely a cool cover; i think i would have preferred that one on the GK codex instead. my biggest worry is that the GK rules won't be completely compatible and usable in deathwatch instead of just ascension level dark heresy which it seems the book is for. can you convert stuff over? sure... but it tends to feel a bit shoehorned when you do.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/17 23:02:44
Subject: Dark Heresy - Rogue Trader - Death Watch - Black Crusade news and rumours
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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I'm fairly confident that the GK rules in this new book will be compatible with Deathwatch. I mean, FFG are generally very good with the cross-over nature of their games.
lasgunpacker wrote:I wonder if BF Koronus could be used to add some more depth to a BFG campaign? Or would it be too detailed for that?
It could be used. You could even do whole fleet battles using just the Rogue Trader system (and quite well now that it will include Torpedoes, Strike Craft and Nova Cannons). Not every hull will be there (as far as we've seen Rogue Trader tops out at Battlecruiser - so sadly no Emperor or Retribution-Class Battleships).
Or if you were playing a campaign and wanted some ultra-detailed rules for 1-on-1 ship battles or special missions, it could work for that as well.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/17 23:10:45
Subject: Re:Dark Heresy - Rogue Trader - Death Watch - Black Crusade news and rumours
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[MOD]
Decrepit Dakkanaut
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A bit like the old days of Inquisitor where people tend to forget that a laspistol was a lethal weapon, people tend to forget that even the smallest ship can pack quite a punch.
Unless they are captained by idiots. They deserved those near-deaths and burning of their Fate points.
I'm sure the really, really big hulls will show up in a later supplement. Or crafty players can come up with their own rules.
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Fatum Iustum Stultorum
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/18 08:16:55
Subject: Dark Heresy - Rogue Trader - Death Watch - Black Crusade news and rumours
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[DCM]
Et In Arcadia Ego
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warboss wrote: my biggest worry is that the GK rules won't be completely compatible and usable in deathwatch instead of just ascension level dark heresy which it seems the book is for.
Worry not.
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
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