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Yeah, have a little faith in Mack and the other Dark Heresy guys.

BrookM wrote:Chances are it will have the same stuff as found in the GK codex, only a million times better.

I think you're over-estimating GW and underestimating FFG.

I expect this to be A MILLION BILLION times better than Codex Grey Knights.

And no mentions of Draigo... hopefully.

Have we been given a eta for the Chaos Book yet, or is it still a way off?

Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote: is it still a way off?

..alas.

Good things come though. I'm sure, even as we "speak", that work progresses.

Ah dang, and agreed, looking forward to it greatly.

They give a date, and then push it back and back and back and back .........

Just a quick word after reading much of Battlefleet Koronus...

Very nice Navy info. There's just about nothing you can't run here aside from Battleships and extrapolating them from existing RT and BFG info should be a snap. I'd like more info on planetary defenses and orbitals but no big deal. The xeno ships, particularly the Eldar, are done in loving detail and can be easily customized as needed.

The Ground Combat info is a bit sparse, IMHO. There are rules for making units with Power Factors, Morale, etc, etc. But it could really use a few more examples of use and sample units. One thing I don't get is that units of the same type seem to have the same Damage output, regardless of size (squad, company, division), though they do differ in 'wounds'. Huh? I would think a Division would have a lot more offensive output than a unit 5% its' size. Perhaps they missed something.

Fantasy Flight let me blog a bit about the work I did on Black Crusade.

The article just went live -- here's the link:
Men of Low Character

This one was a great deal of fun to work on, and I hope folks enjoy it as much as the developers and freelancers have.

That's... well, it tells us some interesting tidbits, but not whole lot that we hadn't already speculated on.

BaronIveagh wrote:... but not whole lot that we hadn't already speculated on.

Really? Not even this:

"Everyone agreed; career paths were out of Black Crusade." ---or--- "... oh, that's right; Black Crusade has eliminated Levels."

Those seem fairly significant and different to me.

the_dunner wrote:Fantasy Flight let me blog a bit about the work I did on Black Crusade.

The article just went live -- here's the link:
Men of Low Character

This one was a great deal of fun to work on, and I hope folks enjoy it as much as the developers and freelancers have.

THanks! FFG is really doing a great job not just on their products but on their communications.

Which makes it the fourth company to be using GW's IP effectively and communicating/advertising it in a manner that makes it more attractive to customers.

Pick which one out of these five aren't doing that:

Games Workshop

Black Library

Forge World

Fantasy Flight Games

THQ

*Hint, it's not any of the last 4!

Much to my irritation I just received a notice that Amazon will not be carrying Battlefleet Koronus, and my pre-order has been canceled.

BaronIveagh wrote:Much to my irritation I just received a notice that Amazon will not be carrying Battlefleet Koronus, and my pre-order has been canceled.

Wierd they still have it listed for April 12

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1616610719/ref=ord_cart_shr?ie=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER

But I just got it from my FLGS.

I'm trying to get them to sort this out. Seems that soemthing is up.

H.B.M.C. wrote:Which makes it the fourth company to be using GW's IP effectively and communicating/advertising it in a manner that makes it more attractive to customers.

Pick which one out of these five aren't doing that:

Games Workshop

Black Library

Forge World

Fantasy Flight Games

THQ

*Hint, it's not any of the last 4!

i'd say its not the middle three more accurately. THQ has been very tight lipped about the space marine game coming out for pc/xbox with their "official" website for the game containing less text than an average FFG blog post and a single video from last august as the entirety of its content. :(

Amazon has pulled a fast one:

If you pre-ordered BattleFleet Koronus at $25.28

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1589947991

and had it canceled, it is now

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1616610719

and a pre order of $30. Make sure to point the price guarantee out when you call them. Don't try to pull a fast one of your own, they will check your previous orders.

BaronIveagh wrote:Much to my irritation I just received a notice that Amazon will not be carrying Battlefleet Koronus, and my pre-order has been canceled.

I gave up on Amazon before Deathwatch was released. I'm glad I did now.


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warboss wrote:i'd say its not the middle three more accurately. THQ has been very tight lipped about the space marine game coming out for pc/xbox with their "official" website for the game containing less text than an average FFG blog post and a single video from last august as the entirety of its content. :(

At the last E3 THQ (and Relic) showed up with people in costume to promote Space Marine. IIRC they did it again at PAX prime.

At the last Gen-Con Games Workshop brought... oh... wait... they weren't at the last Gen-Con.

Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:Have we been given a eta for the Chaos Book yet, or is it still a way off?

Website says release summer '11 and book being at the printers.

Yeah I wouldn't put too much faith into what the 'Upcoming' section of the FFG website says. It's been wrong more than once.

BaronIveagh wrote:I'm trying to get them to sort this out. Seems that soemthing is up.

I know Amazon tends to get it later than the gaming shops to drive business there (worked in my case!) but I don't know why they'd cancel you when they still have it on their schedule.


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H.B.M.C. wrote:Which makes it the fourth company to be using GW's IP effectively and communicating/advertising it in a manner that makes it more attractive to customers.

Pick which one out of these five aren't doing that:

Games Workshop

Black Library

Forge World

Fantasy Flight Games

THQ

*Hint, it's not any of the last 4!

Forge World? Really?

I unsubscribed from them when, instead of pictures of new stuff, they started emailing jigsaw puzzles for us to put together.

Kid_Kyoto wrote:

BaronIveagh wrote:I'm trying to get them to sort this out. Seems that soemthing is up.

I know Amazon tends to get it later than the gaming shops to drive business there (worked in my case!) but I don't know why they'd cancel you when they still have it on their schedule.

Well, it's not that it's a later release, it's that they were trying to get out of their price guarantee.

See, originally, they had a lower price then the actual MSRP of the book, and then the pre-order discount. FFG released the book higher, and Amazon canceled the pre-orders, and re-listed it to try and avoid losing their shirts on their pre-order price guarantee.

BaronIveagh wrote:

Kid_Kyoto wrote:

BaronIveagh wrote:I'm trying to get them to sort this out. Seems that soemthing is up.

I know Amazon tends to get it later than the gaming shops to drive business there (worked in my case!) but I don't know why they'd cancel you when they still have it on their schedule.

Well, it's not that it's a later release, it's that they were trying to get out of their price guarantee.

See, originally, they had a lower price then the actual MSRP of the book, and then the pre-order discount. FFG released the book higher, and Amazon canceled the pre-orders, and re-listed it to try and avoid losing their shirts on their pre-order price guarantee.

Ah, got it.

H.B.M.C. wrote:

warboss wrote:i'd say its not the middle three more accurately. THQ has been very tight lipped about the space marine game coming out for pc/xbox with their "official" website for the game containing less text than an average FFG blog post and a single video from last august as the entirety of its content. :(

At the last E3 THQ (and Relic) showed up with people in costume to promote Space Marine. IIRC they did it again at PAX prime.

At the last Gen-Con Games Workshop brought... oh... wait... they weren't at the last Gen-Con.

i'm not saying GW is GOOD at marketing just that THQ is NOT. they were at e3 last summer and that is the video i'm actually talking about in my quote above. we have basically one trailer and one gameplay video for a game that is coming out in 3-5 months (listed as summer), neither of which was released in the last 6 months.... and a website with about as much info as can fit on the back of a console game box... that's not great marketing IMO. still not as bad as gw who would simply deny the game is coming out (ala space hulk) but i expect more by this point. one possibility is that its delayed again and that's why they're not releasing stuff about it yet.

Regarding Space Marine: Game Trailer TV has more stuff on the game, if you can stand their stupid interviews and horrible attempts at caring about the game they are asking about.

Back on ze topic.

Space ships are cool.

Space Ships are cool Brook, and now they are flying through the Warp. Maelstrom informed me this morning that my copies of Battlefleet Koronus are on their way (plus my copy of The Frozen Reaches).

Saw Black Sepulchre at my FLGS today, a month early courtesy of the local play tester who is a regular there.

I wouldn't say things like that unless you want ot get them in trouble.... LOL

... and ? beans.. spill them !

Got my copy of Battlefleet Koronus.And am very pleased indeed -- top work everyone involved.
Lots of lovely juicy background, famous ships, famous actions, details on ranks in the Battlefleet. Very useful rules too, boardering ( sorry couldn't resist) on the essential for a RT campaign perhaps.

Especially enjoyed the stuff about "The White Sorrows" from a quick glance through, can't really comment on the rules in the book yet really, but certainly a cursory glance has them clearly placed and findable ( a lost art in too many rulebooks still, alas ) and thorough.

.. *waits to get shot down on that point*

And overall the book has quite an.. old school 40k feel to much of the background presented that nicely captures the scale and scope of the subject matter delightfully well.

Good work FFG