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BUT IT IS A BARREL OF AWESOME. Did I say, "awesome"? I meant "crazy".

Anyway, here's an interior shot of the crypt, made of the hard plastic.



And another SG down! This arcane stuff might be useful for esoteric 40K weapons. Where'd my Chaos Warriors go?

I really want the not-Tiamat but delivery to the Uk is going to be problematic.

If I use Reapers shipping taking this beast doubles the shipping charges, ouch. Even with the workarounds it will be just too much. A pity, I really want one.

 adamsouza wrote:
Kaladrax was a special case. It wasn't supposed to be that big of a model. The factory in China read the measurements wrong and cut molds for a much bigger model than planned.

That makes no sense. It's a sculpture, not a length of timber. You can't accidentally make a copy twice as big.

 Orlanth wrote:
I really want the not-Tiamat but delivery to the Uk is going to be problematic.

If I use Reapers shipping taking this beast doubles the shipping charges, ouch. Even with the workarounds it will be just too much. A pity, I really want one.

Not to mention customs fees. I genuinely don't know if it'll work out cheaper than retail at $120 + 20% + £12 handling.

 lord_blackfang wrote:

 adamsouza wrote:
Kaladrax was a special case. It wasn't supposed to be that big of a model. The factory in China read the measurements wrong and cut molds for a much bigger model than planned.

That makes no sense. It's a sculpture, not a length of timber. You can't accidentally make a copy twice as big.

I think they took the length as the width or some such, it's all too easy to get stuff mixed up when your working across countries and in different languages

eg http://motherboard.vice.com/read/the-time-nasa-lost-a-mars-orbiter-because-of-a-metric-system-mixup

"18 inches, right here, it specifies, 18 inches."

https://vimeo.com/94459739

This is my first bones, and I'm so far quite happy with the core pledge. Sure, there's a lot of weirdness in there. There are also Orcs, goblins, ogres, a troll, and soon hobgoblins. The packmule can be in every overland encounter, plus bugs, a snake and a wolf.

The basics for a starter campaign are still there. I think they just aren't as spectacular as the Weird West Wizard of Oz, or the truly bewildering assortment of lycanthropes.

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:

 adamsouza wrote:
Kaladrax was a special case. It wasn't supposed to be that big of a model. The factory in China read the measurements wrong and cut molds for a much bigger model than planned.

That makes no sense. It's a sculpture, not a length of timber. You can't accidentally make a copy twice as big.

I think they took the length as the width or some such, it's all too easy to get stuff mixed up when your working across countries and in different languages

eg http://motherboard.vice.com/read/the-time-nasa-lost-a-mars-orbiter-because-of-a-metric-system-mixup

No. Look. You have a master model. That's the thing your sculptor made out of green stuff. You make a mold of it by pouring silicone around it. They you get the master model out and you're left with a hole. You make retail models by pouring PVC in the hole.

At no step in this can anything double in size while keeping the exact proportions and detail.

The only way a spin-cast model could be made in the wrong size was if it were digitally sculpted, then 3D printed at the wrong scale, and nobody at Reaper would notice that this added an extra zero to their 3D printing bill, or inspect the pieces in any way before shipping them off to China to be molded.

Bones models are cast in a steel mold that has been cut by a CnC machine. Completely different to what you describe. It is very possible to input wrong numbers in to the program.

While Bones are a PVC plastic, they are a high vinyl content and are not made from a two-part polyester resin like you are thinking. The material they are made from comes in a beaded or near powder-like form delivered in a drum which is then loaded in a hopper and heated to a liquid state which is then injected into the mold.

 lord_blackfang wrote:

 adamsouza wrote:
Kaladrax was a special case. It wasn't supposed to be that big of a model. The factory in China read the measurements wrong and cut molds for a much bigger model than planned.

That makes no sense. It's a sculpture, not a length of timber. You can't accidentally make a copy twice as big.

Yet, Reaper acknowledged it happened. Most likely a digital mixup that is easy to overlook when scrambling to complete a big kickstarter and workin with an overseas manufacturer.

*sigh*

feth you guys.

I backed it.

 lord_blackfang wrote:

 adamsouza wrote:
Kaladrax was a special case. It wasn't supposed to be that big of a model. The factory in China read the measurements wrong and cut molds for a much bigger model than planned.

That makes no sense. It's a sculpture, not a length of timber. You can't accidentally make a copy twice as big.

Yes you can. It was also what killed I-Kore.
They outsourced tooling for a set of molds for a plastic core set for the game Void.
The tools eventually came back and they were a direct duplicate of the three-up.
So they had to choose between abandoning doing plastic miniatures, redoing them or rescale the entire game. They chose door number two, but never recovered from the outlay.

the_hanged_man wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:

 adamsouza wrote:
Kaladrax was a special case. It wasn't supposed to be that big of a model. The factory in China read the measurements wrong and cut molds for a much bigger model than planned.

That makes no sense. It's a sculpture, not a length of timber. You can't accidentally make a copy twice as big.

Yet, Reaper acknowledged it happened. Most likely a digital mixup that is easy to overlook when scrambling to complete a big kickstarter and workin with an overseas manufacturer.

Bearing in mind that the folks manning the CNC machine never got to see an original of the model - all that they had to go by was the digital file.

Stupid stuff happens - take a look at how long the Hubble was crippled by a measurement in Imperial that was read as Metric....

On the other hand... the accidental oversized skeletal dragon has apparently been selling well enough that they are deliberately making a dragon of that scale....

 Buttery Commissar wrote:

the undead dragon form Bones II, I always thought I wanted, but having seen it in person, it strikes me as sort of out-of-scale due to being very simple and very large. It breaks the barrier between toy and miniature for me, in the wrong direction.

Yeah, Kaladryx can look pretty goofy in person, since there's no easy way to hide the fact that the rib cage isnt hollow.

ced1106 wrote:

Looks like Slaanesh players have a new shield they can use

 Dreadclaw69 wrote:

Looks like Slaanesh players have a new shield they can use

Gw put Slaanesh on the AOS equivalent of a milk cartoon... he's missing and presumed dead as a patron of armies.

Oh yes, Slaanesh is either dead or hurt so bad that it won't be back for quite some time to come.

Bones are physically sculpted then 3D scanned. The digital files are sent to China, where they cut the steel mold. The peopel responsible for cutting the molds, never see the original models. There was a communication error. They jumbled the wingspan and hieght measurements and cut a mold for a much larger model than intended. This was all discussed years ago, when it happened.

 Alex C wrote:
Sir Forscale has balls of steel to go raising his sword in that room...

Actually, they're more of a spongy, resilient material.


I've heard.


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Okay, that new dwarf set makes up for a lot of past transgressions. Come here, Reaper; we're not broken, just bent, and we can learn to love again.

Could work with the eastern legends part of the main pledge but don't need most of the rest.

How fortunate that they are selling Eastern Legends for 9 dollars a piece. Come on , brothers swing with me!

"In our haste, we accidentally included a dwarf in the Dwarves Core Addition goal for $1,900,000 that is already in the Core Set, and has been since the project launched.
We apologize for this error, and below are presenting the corrected image, with a dwarf which has not been previously a part of this project, Klaus Copperthumb, Dwarf Rogue."

More proof of Reaper's evil schemes! If we hadn't raised such a fuss they surely would have just given us the same miniature twice, just as planned to maximize their revenue! How dare they! How dumb do they think we are!

I'm on to you Reaper, I'm on to your schemes!!!!!1!!

lol -- On the Reaper forum threads, someone noted one of the Dwarves in pic is the same one on the throne in the $10 add-on! The dwarf on the lower left looks close enough.

Update has close-ups of the heads: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1513061270/reaper-miniatures-bones-3-the-search-for-mr-bones/posts/1302844

60k to next unlock. Less than 12 hours from now?

Reaper already said the're going to replace the double with a new dwarf, someone forgot to tick a box next to 'already used' or events to that effect

I'd be surprised if we didn't hit the 1.9m target before I go to bed in 6-8 hours. Especially since the "48 hours remaining" reminder emails will be going out in like an hour and a half.

ced1106 wrote:
lol -- On the Reaper forum threads, someone noted one of the Dwarves in pic is the same one on the throne in the $10 add-on! The dwarf on the lower left looks close enough.

Update has close-ups of the heads: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1513061270/reaper-miniatures-bones-3-the-search-for-mr-bones/posts/1302844

60k to next unlock. Less than 12 hours from now?

Yeah, Reaper mentioned it was the same Dwarf King in the update as well. Kinda neat they would do that, although you have to purchase him on his throne seperately.

The height of rumors, but Reaper is presenty discussing names for an all female grouping- possibly as an add on.

They are also encouraging their followers to dig a diggy diggy hole.

I'm sure some of you won't be happy that the graveyard golem doesn't have a big nasty scowlyface, but I like the irony of what should be a placid reverent cherub happily bludgeoning my players to death.

Sorry, thinking out loud again.

EDIT: Compilation of Not-Tiamat dragon! : http://forum.reapermini.com/index.php?/topic/63183-maaldrakar-photos-compilation/

UPDATE: Second column added! Wake the neighbors! Phone the kids! No, wait...

I actually like that face. It reminds me of the monster from Zeiram the Animation.. a smiling kabuki mask type thing on this huge murderous monster. If the 3rd part is good, this one will make a lot of people happy I'm sure.
The additional fencing being available is even better. People can expand out and create a proper graveyard. It would've been nice if they had tossed in some headstones with it but I guess those are easy enough to come by

Graveyard is looking awesome so far! Hopefully they dont pooch it by cramming in a random selection of PC minis/townsfolk lol.