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The original is of course a stone cold classic. But, David Bowie was a significant part of that. Not only for his beguiling performance as the Goblin King, but the music he provided.
So this does have an uphill battle. But, Dark Crystal was seamlessly resurrected on Netflix, so maybe it can be done?
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My concern is that whilst both were self contained films, Dark Crystal clearly had a lot more world building going on. There was a past and a future within the fantasy story. Labyrinth is a very self contained story even within its self contained film. There's a past to the Labyrinth itself, but not to the main character; meanwhile the future is left very uncertain.
I guess its easier for an audience of Dark Crystal to see potential further stories in the past and future of the setting for writers to latch onto; with Labyrinth there's far less of that so there's less to latch onto. The risk is that the writers could go way out of the basket and the result is something that is faithful, well made and good but which just lacks the proper connections.
I do think it will have a very different and more serious style; musicals are just not popular at all right now. At the time they were all the craze and Disney was pumping them out everywhere; today musicals really aren't all that big. There's a few niches hanging on like Disney animations, but big musicals don't really feature in the blockbuster Hollywood listings like they used too.
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Seen enough Labyrinth future fanfics to know how this will go (some quite good), or it will be completely unrelated. And the future versions just don't work without investing in a more complex relationship between Sarah and the Goblin King. And without Bowie, that dog don't hunt.
Do something new, Hollywood. Stop dragging out corpses to violate. They were fine as complete stories. Just because its quick, easier and cheap to assume an 'unfinished tales' aspect to every film doesn't mean you should.
The original is of course a stone cold classic. But, David Bowie was a significant part of that. Not only for his beguiling performance as the Goblin King, but the music he provided.
So this does have an uphill battle. But, Dark Crystal was seamlessly resurrected on Netflix, so maybe it can be done?
This is kinda my thoughts, though maybe not quite as optimistic. The original was so much driven by Bowie personally, I'm not sure that it can be Dark Crystal'd, but DC was actually very well done so that's keeping me from being outright hostile to the idea.
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I just hope they don't get stuck slaving themselves to the old stories - grand as they were I'd love them to do some new stuff as well. Fantasy could do with some big new films and series and general energy. IT seems Lord of the Rings somehow was so vast that it sapped all the big/quality end fantasy for years after.
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I think it would work to have a teenaged Toby get abducted by Goblins to become the new Goblin King as the old one has "moved on to what's next" (the Goblins could literally use those words). And then it's an adventure of a older teen Toby being pulled this way and that through the labyrinth trying to find a way home because if he's there too long he becomes the Goblin King and basically won't be able to leave. Not in any way that lets him regain his life.
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Lance845 wrote: I think it would work to have a teenaged Toby get abducted by Goblins to become the new Goblin King as the old one has "moved on to what's next" (the Goblins could literally use those words). And then it's an adventure of a older teen Toby being pulled this way and that through the labyrinth trying to find a way home because if he's there too long he becomes the Goblin King and basically won't be able to leave. Not in any way that lets him regain his life.
Eh. Knowing Hollywood (and the way the original ended) an emo teen Toby will _want_ to become the goblin king, but his friends will come along, he'll Learn Something Today, and go back to normality and an unfortunately boring life and this will be counted a victory.
Mostly because a lot of the things that worked about the original were also kind of bad, you know?
But Hensen might have given up on creating more Labyrinth style cult hits when Mirror Mask wasn't s smashing success (despite being as good as Henson's classics).
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its got a fair few things in common with Labyrinth, young woman on a fetch quest for a magic mcguffin to save her Mum, in a fairytale realm that may or may not exist and has a bit of an Oz vibe as a lot of the cast have roles in both realms, very Neil Gaimen storywise but really interesting visuals thanks to Dave McKean, worth a watch for those alone
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A lot of films follow the same paradigm as Labyrinth. You have a young protagonist who is frustrated at not having control in their real life who then travels to a fantasy realm where he/she deals with the issues of empowerment. Kind of an external world that exists to serve the protagonist's personal character arc.
For Sarah, she really just has to acknowledge her own power and stop telling herself that she's helpless against an unfair world.
I usually call it the Alice in Wonderland story paradigm. Many films and books do very different things with it. I think my very favorite use of the paradigm is Pan's Labyrinth (which distinguishes itself by being very violent).
Coraline and Time Bandits also do some neat things with the paradigm.
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