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Made in jp
Longtime Dakkanaut





So it seems that the only way to access the digital version of the new codexes is by buying the book and using the code.
You can't simply buy the codex on iTunes or on the Warhammer digital website. Is it just me or is this a truly terrible decision?
I live in Japan far from a gw store which often only has one or two copies of English books. If I order from gw directly it can take weeks to arrive. I have been digital only for all types of books for the last 5 years and have no intention of going back to physical. I really hope gw rethinks this.
   
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Please do not advocate piracy on these forums.

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I guess if you are desperate and have friends back in the states or in europe, you could have them buy the book and thus get access to its digital version, and promise simply to let you in on it.

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What a dumb decision. In 21th century no way to buy a PDF without a physical book, really GW?
   
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Chalice-Wielding Sanguinary High Priest





Stevenage, UK

Dukeofstuff wrote:
I guess if you are desperate and have friends back in the states or in europe, you could have them buy the book and thus get access to its digital version, and promise simply to let you in on it.

Could even kick them back some money for doing so, make the Codex a bit cheaper for them, which I'm sure would be welcome.
For that same reason, I'm sure we'll see codes up on Ebay and the like before long. (Not that I'd advise buying any second-hand one-use codes from an unknown source.)

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"Hard pressed on my right. My centre is yielding. Impossible to manoeuvre. Situation excellent. I am attacking." - General Ferdinand Foch  
   
Made in jp
Longtime Dakkanaut





 Super Ready wrote:
Dukeofstuff wrote:
I guess if you are desperate and have friends back in the states or in europe, you could have them buy the book and thus get access to its digital version, and promise simply to let you in on it.

Could even kick them back some money for doing so, make the Codex a bit cheaper for them, which I'm sure would be welcome.
For that same reason, I'm sure we'll see codes up on Ebay and the like before long. (Not that I'd advise buying any second-hand one-use codes from an unknown source.)

Yeah that’s possible, but it is ridiculous that it is even necessary. Why did gw have to give doing something they have been doing quite successfully for many years? Even if there is a fair amount of piracy it hasn’t exactly hurt their bottom line.
   
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Made in gb
Decrepit Dakkanaut




UK

Weren't the PDF versions the same or very similar price to hardcopy anyway? Granted it loses some impact when GW has put the price of a codex up any way, but I guess their view is that instead of giving free rules they are still charging for rules; but they are now giving free digital copies for physical purchases.

So you can still give GW some money for the digital copy; its just now linked to the app and also you have to buy a papercopy for the shelf. Which if you really don't want you can surely sell on secondhand.

   
Made in fi
Decrepit Dakkanaut





Chikout wrote:
 Super Ready wrote:
Dukeofstuff wrote:
I guess if you are desperate and have friends back in the states or in europe, you could have them buy the book and thus get access to its digital version, and promise simply to let you in on it.

Could even kick them back some money for doing so, make the Codex a bit cheaper for them, which I'm sure would be welcome.
For that same reason, I'm sure we'll see codes up on Ebay and the like before long. (Not that I'd advise buying any second-hand one-use codes from an unknown source.)

Yeah that’s possible, but it is ridiculous that it is even necessary. Why did gw have to give doing something they have been doing quite successfully for many years? Even if there is a fair amount of piracy it hasn’t exactly hurt their bottom line.


For one allows them to do only 1 version. They have the app version(which btw isn't pdf. Nor does it contain fluff etc. Just the rules like in app now), selling pdf would require them to...well make said pdf in the first place.

Poor reason but guess they don't want to sell 2 digital versions at once.

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Made in ch
Warped Arch Heretic of Chaos





 Grimtuff wrote:
"GW- Great ideas, poorly executed!"



GW--> Great ideas, Worthlessly executed.


“Piracy is a service problem.”
Valve's Gabe Newell. somewhere in the 2010's...

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 Daedalus81 wrote:

In the 41st millennium there is only overpriced hamberders.

 
   
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Longtime Dakkanaut





 Overread wrote:
Weren't the PDF versions the same or very similar price to hardcopy anyway? Granted it loses some impact when GW has put the price of a codex up any way, but I guess their view is that instead of giving free rules they are still charging for rules; but they are now giving free digital copies for physical purchases.

So you can still give GW some money for the digital copy; its just now linked to the app and also you have to buy a papercopy for the shelf. Which if you really don't want you can surely sell on secondhand.


No. In the uk the recently released Lumineth battletome is £25. The digital version is £17. The digital version that you get on the app isn’t actually the book. It’s just the rules. No art or lore.
   
Made in de
Longtime Dakkanaut





I dont know how it was done with other recent releases but shouldnt the ebook get available on the day of the print copy's release here:

https://www.warhammerdigital.com/warhammer-40000

Or should it be there already by now? At least to be preordered.

That's confusing.
   
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Longtime Dakkanaut





Warhams-77 wrote:
I dont know how it was done with other recent releases but shouldnt the ebook get available on the day of the print copy's release here:

https://www.warhammerdigital.com/warhammer-40000

Or should it be there already by now? At least to be preordered.

That's confusing.


There will no longer be ebooks of 40k codexes. That’s the whole problem. This has been confirmed by gw on Facebook.
   
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Longtime Dakkanaut





Thanks for the info, Chikout. That's gak, wth
   
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I continue to look at Azyr and wish the 40K app was just that.

 
   
Made in gb
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The issue is that the app doesn’t contain the background and art. There are all kinds of reasons from visual impairments to dyslexia, why some people prefer to buy digital versions. GW just turned their back on those people.
   
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Regular Dakkanaut





Chikout wrote:
Warhams-77 wrote:
I dont know how it was done with other recent releases but shouldnt the ebook get available on the day of the print copy's release here:

https://www.warhammerdigital.com/warhammer-40000

Or should it be there already by now? At least to be preordered.

That's confusing.


There will no longer be ebooks of 40k codexes. That’s the whole problem. This has been confirmed by gw on Facebook.


This is new to me. Do you have a link towards the comment by GW?

EDIT: Never mind. Found it.

Hey Dan, there will not be a separate digital release of the codexes as the digital content will be available via the app using the codes provided with the codex.


That is so dissapointing... I liked the fact that I had an easy folder on my PC where everytghing was easily accessed. And I also specifically get codices for their lore and artwork.

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I keep all my Rulebooks for all my games on my iPad/phone. It’s very convenient and much lighter to carry around.

 
   
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Chalice-Wielding Sanguinary High Priest





Stevenage, UK

Not Online!!! wrote:
Gw is the chaos god of selfdefeating-greed.

Sooooo... Tzeentch, then.

"Hard pressed on my right. My centre is yielding. Impossible to manoeuvre. Situation excellent. I am attacking." - General Ferdinand Foch  
   
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Longtime Dakkanaut





Not Online!!! wrote:
“Piracy is a service problem.”
Valve's Gabe Newell. somewhere in the 2010's...

I really wouldn't quote greedy a-hole whose recent anti-consumer practices make GW look downright saintly. Unless you want GW to try to transition their whole range from plastic to failcast and institute mandatory payments for using paints other than official GW ones, as well as attempt to abuse their monopolistic position to force people to paint not with brushes, but with fingers (using Citadel Gloves) which is about what that idiot attempted to do...

   
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Decrepit Dakkanaut




UK

I don't recall steam trying to make it only run on "steam machines" But it did take a long time to make refunds an automatic thing rather than something you had to debate with a support ticket over.

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 Super Ready wrote:
Not Online!!! wrote:
Gw is the chaos god of selfdefeating-greed.

Sooooo... Tzeentch, then.


No tzeentch is the one gambler that when everyone else is playing checkers to win, he is playing 4d chess for the sake of playing the game ad infinitum.


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 Irbis wrote:
Not Online!!! wrote:
“Piracy is a service problem.”
Valve's Gabe Newell. somewhere in the 2010's...

I really wouldn't quote greedy a-hole whose recent anti-consumer practices make GW look downright saintly. Unless you want GW to try to transition their whole range from plastic to failcast and institute mandatory payments for using paints other than official GW ones, as well as attempt to abuse their monopolistic position to force people to paint not with brushes, but with fingers (using Citadel Gloves) which is about what that idiot attempted to do...



Just because you disagree with a person, doesn't make the point moot.
Turth is, piracy has an extreme ammount to do with service rendered.
Gw's service is atleast digitally speaking attrocius, so why bother with it when there are alternatives.

And that isn't even going into the quality of the rules.



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 Overread wrote:
I don't recall steam trying to make it only run on "steam machines" But it did take a long time to make refunds an automatic thing rather than something you had to debate with a support ticket over.


Frankly steam has had it's fair share of issues, and was over time, forced to change.
GW is in the comparatively luxurious position of having the IP copyright cludgeon and an immense market weight for it's market.
The statement is often, go GW or go home in many a region and whilest 6-7th killed off some of the strength GW once had in form of local monolithic market position GW still retains a rather confortable lead.

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 Daedalus81 wrote:

In the 41st millennium there is only overpriced hamberders.

 
   
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they have their app now so you cant rent the digital copy on a monthly basis, they get more money that way
   
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Decrepit Dakkanaut





Fargo, ND USA

 Predaking wrote:
they have their app now so you cant rent the digital copy on a monthly basis, they get more money that way


You don't get access to the 9th ed books through the sub. Once a 9th ed version of a book is released, they remove the 8th ed one from the sub. The only way to get the digital 9th ed on the app is the code, which doesn't require the sub.

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Decrepit Dakkanaut





Also app doesn't contain fluff and art and as this thread shows there are people who would like those digitally

12 factions for Lord of The Rings
4663
11772 pts(along with lots of unpainted unsorted stuff)
5265 pts
5150 pts
~3200 pts Knights

 
   
Made in gb
Longtime Dakkanaut




Are they just completely unaware that you effectively need every codex to play?

Anyhow given how terrible and monetised their proprietary app is, this just makes me less inclined to buy physical books of the armies I most regularly play, especially since those got price hiked again.

The real issue is that my local store is a GW, so now I have to work out how the hell I’m meant to access the game’s rules within line of sight of the staff.
   
Made in fi
Decrepit Dakkanaut





I have played 22 years never owning every codex in some form. No you don't need

12 factions for Lord of The Rings
4663
11772 pts(along with lots of unpainted unsorted stuff)
5265 pts
5150 pts
~3200 pts Knights

 
   
Made in gb
Longtime Dakkanaut




tneva82 wrote:
I have played 22 years never owning every codex in some form. No you don't need


You need access to the rules of opposing factions.

If you want to play against someone with incomplete information and constantly referencing their book rather than just looking it up on your own time, I guess that’s up to you.
   
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Longtime Dakkanaut






Shrug. Gw will do what it wants to.

People will scan the codexes and make pdfs of them for the benefit of other players.

I think Londo mollari must have dealt with GW at some time...




(And of course GW knows you need access to every codex, they're just stupid and arrogant enough to think people will spend like 300$ to buy them all. Honestly, GW not only justifies scanned codexes it almost mandates them. And yes I know it's against the law. I quit caring what was legal when i realized the law in nothing but what rich people want it to be.)

Since covid cancelled my annual convention, i just might possibly buy a copy of codex necrons, maybe. But if I do I will be doing it to support a local game store and because I usually buy things at a convention I won't be going to this year due to covidiots.

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