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How Are You Feeling About The First Month of Warhammer+?
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Agile Revenant Titan






Austin, Texas.

I just got my first invoice from GW for warhammer +, and it made me think, has the first month been worth it?

For now I am saying yes. Frankly I only subscribed for the animations, so what did my ~$6 buy me? One month gave 9 total full length episodes of animation, and for the most part I am mostly pleased here. Angels of Death, while not quite at the Astartes level of speed and cleanliness, is a comparable animation I feel. And I either had a good chuckle or was sufficiently creeped out by Hammer and Bolter.

Also, while I did not sign up for either the battle reports or painting tutorials, I did end up watching most of them and was also pleasantly surprised. I thought the bapreps, while a little cheesy, were at least well produced and for the most part enjoyable to watch. Painting tutorials were also not bad.

Anyways, Ill be keeping my subscription for the next month, but if content starts lacking in quantity/quality, I will reconsider.

How is everyone else feeling about their subscription?

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Longtime Dakkanaut




Pretty much agree with you on all points, ninjafiredragon. I'm mostly here for the animations, but the other content is a nice touch. I was hoping there would be more animations on release, but I'm willing to give it a few more months and see how I feel.

Whether or not I stick around will largely depend on how much and what kind of new content they add over the next few months.
   
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Longtime Dakkanaut





I think the idea of Warhammer+ is quite interesting, but I haven't subscribed and don't plan to any time soon.

Its just too expensive for me for what it is. Maybe that is down to the way it was marketed, but it is presented as primarily a streaming service akin to netflix/Amazon Prime/Disney+ and when compared to those it is seriously lacking in content.

I can't see myself subscribing in the near future, especially with the release schedule for the channel. Maybe in a year or so if the channel is still around there will be enough of a back catalogue to pique my interest, but even then I expect that I would subscribe for a month, and in that month be able to watch everything they have that interests me, then cancel the subscription.

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Slaanesh Chosen Marine Riding a Fiend




Australia

Still just as disinterested as I was before. Glad you folks are enjoying it.

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 ninjafiredragon wrote:
One month gave 9 total full length episodes of animation, and for the most part I am mostly pleased here.

What sort of episode duration are we talking here?

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I was pleasantly surprised at the animations that came free with the vindicare assassin.
   
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Well. It's basically about 1e/month for me for animation, vault and apps. For that price I'm not expecting world shattering content and it has exceeded minimimum requirement for that price.

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Shas'ui with Bonding Knife






Too basic for me, canceled last week. AoD didnt live up to the expectations I had after watching Helsreach, sadly. Will however consider resubscribing for a month here and there if I feel like enough bingeworthy content has manifested between periods of unsubscribement.

I'd probably keep the sub if I was playing a lot of 40K just to get access to the app. But now with KT21 and all, there's no need

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Longtime Dakkanaut




Didn't subscribe initially as I wanted to wait and see what the ongoing release schedule was like. Reports of no new animation last week have made me even less likely to subscribe. If we're a month in and they're already skimping on the animations that's a worrying sign for me.
   
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Charing Cold One Knight





I am enjoying what we get, but I do feel like they could be releasing more videos because as it stands it does feel like a trickle. However, the Warhammer Vault and the app I am enjoying so I do feel like I am getting enough for what I paid.

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Longtime Dakkanaut





Still not interested.

Casual gaming, mostly solo-coop these days.

 
   
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 Eldarsif wrote:
I am enjoying what we get, but I do feel like they could be releasing more videos because as it stands it does feel like a trickle. However, the Warhammer Vault and the app I am enjoying so I do feel like I am getting enough for what I paid.


This pretty much mirrors my sentiment. I dont expect too much, its pretty cheap, when substracting the mini. But the animations are a bit thi at this point

   
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Excited Doom Diver






I have been making use of the vault and apps, so those plus the videos have made me quite happy with my subscription so far.

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Terrifying Doombull






Nuremberg

Not really interested but I'm for sure not the target market so that doesn't surprise me. I hope it's worth it for subscribers.

   
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Stern Iron Priest with Thrall Bodyguard



UK

Still don't care, still don't know anybody personally that's subbed to it.

   
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Dour Wolf Priest with Iron Wolf Amulet






Canada

I've been happy with WH+ but I agree that the weekly content is thin. That said, everything they do release on a week-to-week basis is well-worth it for me. The most recent episode of Angels of Death in particular was amazing. I don't really give a damn about the Astartes melodrama but the action scenes are cool and the big space battle we got last week with the Hive Fleet was incredible.

   
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Longtime Dakkanaut





I'm okay with my sub- mostly because after the Miniature, the sub for a year discount and the voucher, it works out to three cups of coffee a month.

I like what I've watched.

But I did expect and H&B and an AoD every week. GW didn't deliver that. If had cost more than 3 cups of coffee, I'd be a bit disappointed.

But it didn't, so we're good.
   
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Kroot Carnivore





I was really on the fence about subbing and in the end I decided not to.

I was really excited when I heard that they were going to release old books as part of Warhammer + and was all stoked to try some old codices and editions of the game until I realized it was just a bunch of old WD, which while not bad, was certainly a disappointment.

I was excited about the models too, but I already have a Vindicare and don't play AoS, so was a pass there.

As for the shows, I figured I could always sub in the future and just binge them.

I get a better discount from my FLGS than that voucher would give me, so no point there.

For Batreps, I can't even keep up with the YT content creators I like to support, so I wouldn't have time to watch even more.

For painting, I might have watched some, however I've already established a painting style that I really like and don't want to change it up to drastically, so I'm not sure how much I'd gain from that.

So for me, still a no, but if they did something like release the old RT rulebook for WH+ or next year's models were something that I really wanted, I'd strongly reconsider.

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 Dysartes wrote:
 ninjafiredragon wrote:
One month gave 9 total full length episodes of animation, and for the most part I am mostly pleased here.

What sort of episode duration are we talking here?


Right now, there are 3 episodes of Hammer & Bolter (about 15-19 minutes long each) and 5 episodes of Angles Death (about 17 minutes each).

I enjoy the shows but I'm under no illusion that the price is worth it from a volume of content standpoint. Obviously the market that's interested in this is really small compared to other streaming services - but there just isn't much content on there and who knows how long it will take to get enough volume to justify if it as a subscription service.

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Longtime Dakkanaut




NE Ohio, USA

Well, I don't need a chunky AoS ork or another Vindicare Assassin.
I don't want to use their app, I can watch batreps/painting tutorials etc for free if I want, and I've never really had any interest in 40k animation.
The $ this would cost me is better spent at Starbucks.

But we'll see what minis they try & tempt me with next year.
   
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Stern Iron Priest with Thrall Bodyguard



UK

If anything they'd of been better off letting you pick from existing models.

I've no use for an assassin model or the orc, had they offered a deep discount on a large model for each faction it would of had broader appeal.

   
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Stalwart Veteran Guard Sergeant





I've actually just signed up on a whim now. The main reason being that I like the look of the Vindicare Assassin so I decided to pay for 1 year and I'll get the model at the end of my subscription.

A £20 voucher to use on the GW website would perhaps have been a better deal. There are always going to be some people who don't like the models on offer so an exclusive model would never have pleased everyone. Still, I'm just glad it wasn't a Primaris Lieutenant.

Having had a quick look at what's on offer I went straight to the Vault. Nice little perk, though not sure how much use I will have for it. Good to see that White Dwarf is on there. The most recent edition I could find was from July 2021, so I guess the plan is to wait a couple of months before putting any new White Dwarfs in the Vault. Quite handy for me as I am often interested in one or two articles from a White Dwarf but often don't bother buying it just for the little bits I'm interested in.

I'm actually just watching a battle report now. Nice video editing, though as others have said there's no shortage of fun battle reports on Youtube.

I haven't checked out the animations yet but I'll be sure to do that. No rush since I've signed up for a year and don't expect new updates to come thick and fast.

The Warhammer 40,000 App and Age of Sigmar App are also included as part of this subscription. Not sure how much of a bonus that is, since the feedback I've seen so far is that you might as well just use Battlescribe. Hopefully the app gets better over time and it becomes a real perk.

From my very quick first impression I'm not disappointed to drop £49.99 on a Vindicare Assassin plus digital extras. I'm not expecting to get the same value as I would from a Netflix or Amazon Prime subscription, but I think anyone who would expect that is being unrealistic as the market for GW products is a lot smaller. If that means you don't subscribe then so be it, to each their own.


Oh, one more thing. Checking my account it looks like my account is set to auto renew in 1 year's time. I can't see a way to switch off the auto renew. A bit annoying, though GW is not the first company to use this tactic.
   
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Fresh-Faced New User




There isn't an option for me to vote, but I'd say, I'm disappointed so far, but I subbed for a year so I'm locked in for now.

I mostly just did the whole year because of the credit on the webstore and getting it cheaper for $12 for the whole year. I mostly did it as I knew I wanted the Warboss model and that would be about $35 so I figured I'd get about $25 out of it. So far I haven't seen enough to get me to log onto the account. Eventually like when the Exodite starts. Angel of Death hasn't interested me at all since they started showing off the animations.
   
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Decrepit Dakkanaut




UK

The poll results are really interesting because it sort of shows that there isn't enough of Warhammer+ to draw in people who weren't initially interested, however at the same time those who are joined up are showing that they generally want to remain.

This is potentially a good position to be in, not the best position by any means, but its not a disaster. It means whoever GW has right now (at least by this poll so far) they are very likely to keep them for at least the 12 month period. So any they likely gain over that time are more likely to be retained.

In theory this means all they have to do is either maintain what they have to keep what they have; or start looking at the group that isn't happy and start seeing what patterns they can identify and then see what they can add to appease segments of that group without losing what they've already go.


All in all it should mean that the Warhammer+ userbase continues to grow and not bleed customers.

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 Overread wrote:
The poll results are really interesting because it sort of shows that there isn't enough of Warhammer+ to draw in people who weren't initially interested, however at the same time those who are joined up are showing that they generally want to remain.

This is potentially a good position to be in, not the best position by any means, but its not a disaster. It means whoever GW has right now (at least by this poll so far) they are very likely to keep them for at least the 12 month period. So any they likely gain over that time are more likely to be retained.

In theory this means all they have to do is either maintain what they have to keep what they have; or start looking at the group that isn't happy and start seeing what patterns they can identify and then see what they can add to appease segments of that group without losing what they've already go.


All in all it should mean that the Warhammer+ userbase continues to grow and not bleed customers.


Personally I am hoping that it's early days yet and Warhammer+ will only get stronger (and better value) as the months go by. I assume a lot of other subscribers are thinking the same. If that doesn't happen then I can see a lot of subscribers cancelling once they have received their miniature.

GW will probably throw out another incentive in a year's time, whether it's more exclusive miniatures or something else. This might be enough on its own to get people to renew, or it might not be.

I'm as hopeful as anyone that Warhammer+ will be a long term success (or at least successful enough to keep offering it to consumers), but I think it's too early to draw any meaningful conclusions at the moment.
   
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Sneaky Lictor





London

I subbed for the year upfront regardless, it was pretty cheap given the voucher and model. So they have a year.

Having said that, the vault client is awful, and the content pretty poor, and there's definitely not enough video to make up for that.

So things will have to shape up for the second year.
   
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Poll needs updating.
Im disappointed but not unsubscribing just yet.
   
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My 2 pence:

Taken me weeks to figure out how to convert my subscription from the 40K app to Warhammer plus. I found the answer on Reddit. This is doing it via my phone and not on a computer. But the user guidance isn’t good at all of doing it via Apple subscription.

So far I have watched 3 episodes of angels of death and I think it’s pretty good actually. A good start and good grim dark way to kick off. We will see how the story plays out.

I watched 1 of the masterclass videos and I think it’s really good, the painting skin one. I think it provides a lot more detail that was missing from the previous citadel videos. It also covers techniques using things GW don’t sell like a wet pallet.

However there isn’t much content when compared to an equivalent streaming service but of course you get the other apps and the free mini which would have a 20-30 quid price.

So overall i can’t say I’m disappointed because it’s sort of what I expected but overall I think they should have made more content for release because we don’t want early adopters to be drip fed.

I remember when Netflix first started and I thought it was good but watched everything worth watching and then it was so slow for new things to be added that I wanted to watch so I cancelled for years and came back when it was loaded with content. I’d rather not have to do the same thing here.

Hopefully there is enough new stuff to feel like it’s worth the monthly sun and I think value will rally be established after 12 months and once we’ve had our freebie

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I think it's poor. And I'm surprised by the number of voices that are upbeat about what is available on there for the price.

That isn't meant to be an attack on anyone, I completely understand that what I see as value isn't the same as what another person might. The vault section for example, I never looked at, and couldn't care less for - other people are getting a lot out of that.

Myself, I saw the service (perhaps erroneously) as a streaming service whose content was focused around Warhammer. I think in that aspect, it's let down. There is very little content to watch right now, which is unique and appealing. It's telling when a good portion of the videos on the service are trailers or content which is available elsewhere. That content does absolutely seem to only be present as filler.

The bat-reps were really quite nice in terms of production value, but in terms of content I've gotten more out of free offerings on YouTube. The painting tutorials I can see appealing to many, but again, there is far better available for free elsewhere, and those included (understandably) continue to prop-up the Citadel/GW/'Eavy Metal system of miniature painting. As a passionate painter, that system can be something of a trap many get locked into, and there is a universe of techniques and mediums beyond it.

I'm comparing then, perhaps unfairly, the video content on offer with that of other streaming services that I use. Probably the most apt is Shudder, as it too, is a smaller, niche service for a similar price. It contains 100's of hours of professionally produced, classic and modern viewing for that price however, whereas WH+ simply does not.

I've unsubscribed, but I'd be keen to revisit it in 6 months time to see how things stand. Right now, I can't see the value for me. I am genuinely glad that there are people who love it and are getting a lot from their sub. It's these folk who are giving it the chance to blossom into something bigger and better.

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