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I'd like to keep KS news separate from the main Reaper News thread, so let's keep it here.

https://www.reapermini.com/KS/BONES6



"Tales from the Green Griffin"

It opens March 31, 2022 and they've been stealthfully leaking models out as freebys with March orders.

You can see some here

https://www.facebook.com/ReaperMini

Hopefully it's minis from the tales that adventurers tell each other at this inn, and not just a bunch of hero minis that would be at the inn itself!

I wouldn't mind a full tavern set at Bones prices... other than that I am not sure if I will be in this that much. I will still try and back the 1st minute to get wave 1... cuz... tradition... but other than a tavern or another ship, I am not sure what I really need. I havent used any of the stuff i got in Bones 5 in my games.. but I didnt get a whole lot... just the ship and some encounter sets.

I have used the Ogres, Giants and bugbears quite a bit from earlier KS... Maybe if they have some really big giants (Gargant sized) or something like that...

I'm hoping for more of the cyberpunk/Shadowrun stuff they did last year. But the announced theme does not give me much hope.

They showed off the video of the huge dragon in the KS on Facebook about 2 weeks ago. I'll get that at least as it's really nice looking but outside of that we'll have to see. I haven't backed a core set since Bones 2.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
I'm hoping for more of the cyberpunk/Shadowrun stuff they did last year. But the announced theme does not give me much hope.

They always have several add on sets that don't match the theme and there's always a modern/sci-fi. You might get a few cyberpunk figures but I'd be surprised, and happy, if it was a full $50 set.

Mrs. GG have been happy with Bones 4 and 5 so keen to see what Bones 6 has to offer. I just wish we had gotten that Chronoscope set in Bones 5. Lesson learned.

The delay just feels way too long for me to ever commit much money to the project.

Two years is a looong time in hobby land.

Yes, but on the plus side, they always seem to deliver.

That's another big reason I don't pledge as much. The long waits for pretty generic things that 90% will reach retail isn't an incentive to back.

Saving some good money on larger figures or sets I know I will end up getting is about the only reasons and I tend to just pledge $1 and then spend when the PM is about to close which tend to be around 8-9 months before delivery.

> Saving some good money on larger figures or sets

That's a good move. If you know what you want, buy that instead of the bulk assortment. Pre-Bones Black, Reaper said one reason for Bones was to create large figures at prices the market would accept. Nobody's going to pay $36 per model for an encounter with several hill giants.

Core set screencap. Assortment looks similar to Bones I-V. Core goes for $125. I'm spoiled by the lower Bones I-IV prices, and note that the "fodder" miniatures this year are zombies. Have too many of those (CMON, Mantic, etc.), and preferred the various humanoid races and weapon loads of previous KS. Assortment looks less novelty-oriented than last Bones, though. IIRC, It's all in Bones Black? Still, a good addition for anyone without a ton of zombies, and prices to be expected with today's global situation.

This may be the weakest opening core set yet. Even with lots of great stretch goals, I don’t think I can justify pledging for the core.

Agreed. It's not very enticing but lets be honest that the majority of people backing for the core set know it will be 3x that amount and are buying for the bulk more then what's in it.

I'm guessing that the tavern themed stuff will all be in the $50 expansion sets (probably just one or one + terrain).

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
This may be the weakest opening core set yet. Even with lots of great stretch goals, I don’t think I can justify pledging for the core.

Agreed. Those zombies are pretty awful and most of the rest looks like it was plucked from the 90's. I do like the halfling on the copper dragon and the bog golem or whatever that thing is. The rock golem with the spikey hands looks stupid, but kind of endearingly so. If I end up with it I'll be painting it to look like a Marge Simpson.

Did they decide not to produce the ship for retail? I wanted to wait and see how much it sagged before I got one.

I feel like anyone who wanted a legion of cheap generic zombies probably bought a Zombicide set or two, or just some of the perfectly adequate Mantic zombie sprues.

Looks like 16 zombies with 4 repeating poses? And I always think repeating poses are particularly noticeable for zombies because their silhouette is so uncanny inherently.

This is a good thing, because unless some pretty good ones show up, this saves me a core set. Those zombies already were in the previous one and I've always had a bit of a dislike of duplicates. As for the rest, it's impossible to tell with the poor image quality.

That's, uh, that's not looking that good in comparison to a 200$ resin printer.

Hang on has Bones 5 been delivered yet? Mine hasn't arrived...

It should be mostly delivered I think. I got mine ages (as in, last year) ago.

Got my Bones 5 stuff in August 2021, also in the UK.

I received my initial pledge, but haven't heard diddly about my late pledge.

And that had two ships in it.

My last update to my order was in July last year (yes, getting a ship). That might have delayed things?

The_Real_Chris wrote:
Hang on has Bones 5 been delivered yet? Mine hasn't arrived...

Bones 5.5 hasn't arrived yet, if you never got 5.0 and you closed you pledge properly during the campaign window, contact Reaper.


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 ced1106 wrote:
> Saving some good money on larger figures or sets

That's a good move. If you know what you want, buy that instead of the bulk assortment. Pre-Bones Black, Reaper said one reason for Bones was to create large figures at prices the market would accept. Nobody's going to pay $36 per model for an encounter with several hill giants.

Core set screencap. Assortment looks similar to Bones I-V. Core goes for $125. I'm spoiled by the lower Bones I-IV prices, and note that the "fodder" miniatures this year are zombies. Have too many of those (CMON, Mantic, etc.), and preferred the various humanoid races and weapon loads of previous KS. Assortment looks less novelty-oriented than last Bones, though. IIRC, It's all in Bones Black? Still, a good addition for anyone without a ton of zombies, and prices to be expected with today's global situation.

This looks underwhelming, but...

The Core set will be massive, and a bargain by past account. The higher price does not faze me as all prices are headed that way.

Also if there is too much junk and not enough good stuff one can buy items from the core set separately and the solo price is reasonable, if the separate pieces amount up to a significant portion of $125 USD it pays to just get the core, you can always give away the excess. Reaper are noted for the large number of junk miniatures in their sets. I have masses of unwanted junk Reaper miniatures from previous Bones campaigns, but each as packed with something else worth the price and then some.

My Bones expenditure has roughly doubled each time since my first dip with Bones 3, I missed the first two or I would have sunk cash earlier. Bones 5 probably praked out for me, I am likely to spend about the same on Bones 6, but it depends what is on offer.

Will watch with interest.

The core set will probably end up at 120-150 minis or more, just like the previous ones.
The initial 30 have always been slightly underwhelming, but the strech goals fall rapidly during the first and the last days.

I Got the core in 1-4... Got 2 cores each in 2, 3 and 4. Bones 4 was my biggest at just under $1000. Bones 5 was my smallest at just over $200 and was the first time i skipped the core set. Will likely skip Bones 6's core set too. Though there are a couple in that Core set that i might buy as addons... like the gnome on Dragon.

Hmm, should I order a huge bucket of bones miniatures for delivery some time in the future or should I get round to painting the core sets from the two Bone Kickstarters that I have already backed. Its a real head vs heart clash.

Ah they have now emailed everyone talking about shipping and production problems for Bones 5.

The_Real_Chris wrote:
Ah they have now emailed everyone talking about shipping and production problems for Bones 5.

Oh ? I didn't see that. Maybe because I didn't order more when they reopened the PM ?

I'm torn about Bones 6. I've backed every Bones KS but to a lesser degree in each successive one.
However, the delay of 4, the built-in protracted wait for 5 (that was still delayed) and the gobs of unneeded minis make the KS campaign process much less appealing to me nowadays. I'm having trouble justifying paying over two years in advance for something I might no longer be interested in when it arrives, in general or because something I like better has come out in the interim, as in the case of the Wizkids and Pathfinder minis.
I'm torn because I've been a Reaper fan for decades but, realistically, I suppose I need to admit I have enough minis.

I think the kickstarter core sets were always meant to appeal to a certain magpie nature, and they don't really stack up as the best way to spend hobby dollars. I will say that when I picked up Rangers of Shadow Deep over covid, or IK RPG years before that, being able to just dig out usable minis from my stash was pretty cool. The last one I backed fully was bones 1, I think, and I still have unpainted stuff from that set. As the quality has gone up, I could see splashing for a core set again.

I'm also keeping half an eye on the planned Gloomhaven minis kickstarter. I've held off on Gloomhaven since I have an allergy to standees... but with minis?

> and the gobs of unneeded minis make the KS campaign process much less appealing to me nowadays.

Same here. Basic economics is that utility generally decreases with each incremental purchase.

> I'm having trouble justifying paying over two years in advance for something I might no longer be interested in when it arrives, in general or because something I like better has come out in the interim, as in the case of the Wizkids and Pathfinder minis.

I think that's a standard risk for KS. I don't buy anything that "you only need one of" or something that a big box store might carry (eg. a coffee maker, blender, clothing) because, by the time it comes out (especially with delays), a better version of it will be out there.

> I've been a Reaper fan for decades

You can still buy their retail miniatures! (: Make sure you're a fan because they give you the miniatures you want, not because you wish they were better!

> I'm also keeping half an eye on the planned Gloomhaven minis kickstarter.

BTW, Anyone know who's the creator? Sure hope it's not Blacklist Games!

And here's an (old) email from Reaper's manufacturer in China for Bones 5.5. Sure, Bones VI production is months from now, but did you think, two years ago, that CoVid's disruption of supply chains and increases in shipping costs would be like it is now?

"I trust you are all doing well, but the situation in China is getting worse due to the Omicron pandemic. In Dongguan, where over 50% of the world’s toys are produced and our factory is situated has been locked today to March 21, 2022. No production nor logistic activities are allowed and so we have no choice but to shut down our production. The labor shortage situation has been improving but this shutdown will derange our production planning’s. I hope we can resume production on March 22, but I really don’t know. Some orders will be delayed but we will do our best to keep the ship date we promised. We will do the best we can."

Kudos to Reaper for posting this on their forums. They didn't have to, especially a week before their next KS. I'm still backing some "Made in China" KS, but I'd still yellow flag a KS until I knew they didn't have to manufacturer or use supplies overseas. (Even .stl KS use plastic and resin from China...)