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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
More notable is the bit about their warriors having bits of Blackstone.

Seems their dynastic trait will be some sort of anti-psyker thing.


Im pretty sure their dynasty trait will be ignore MW in the psychic phase on a natural 6. One of the most useless abilities in the entire game. Szeras may increase this to 5+, when he is within 6".

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 p5freak wrote:
 H.B.M.C. wrote:
More notable is the bit about their warriors having bits of Blackstone.

Seems their dynastic trait will be some sort of anti-psyker thing.


Im pretty sure their dynasty trait will be ignore MW in the psychic phase on a natural 6. One of the most useless abilities in the entire game. Szeras may increase this to 5+, when he is within 6".


It might just be ignores mw on a 5+ flat across the board.
   
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We're almost certainly getting double dynasty traits, same as every other recent codex so at the worst it would be that, plus something else.
   
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IanVanCheese wrote:
We're almost certainly getting double dynasty traits, same as every other recent codex so at the worst it would be that, plus something else.


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Working on it

I'm hoping that at some point they'll mention a starter box, if there is one.

They probably haven't said anything about it to keep up the sales of the Indomitus box, so would they unveil it after the indomitus preorder/release?

What would be in the starter box, I assume similar stuff to Indomitus.

Also, theres a picture with the new Overlord (the last picture in the Szarekhan dynasty WHC post), 10 warriors, Scarabs, 2 Skorpekh Destroyers, and the Canoptek Doom Stalker, considering some of the sculpts in the current SC! box for necrons are out of date, that looks like the prime candidate for a new SC! Necrons box

<Dynasty> ~6500pts
War Coven of the Coruscating Gaze ~2500pts
Thrice-Damned Plague Corps ~3250pts
Cult of the Stoneborn Serpent ~2500pts
Admech (TBN) ~2250pts
Kabal of the Shattered Crown ~2250pts 
   
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Assuming the 10 warriors stay at 6PL, it leaves 13 PL for the skorpekh destroyers and the skorpekh lord.
Don't know what to do with that though

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 Ghaz wrote:
 MannyMcCoconut wrote:
What do you think about destroyers? Its tough to say without knowing more about the new ones, but they likely wont be monsters so cant shoot in combat and if they fall back now they cant shoot.

With the size of the new Lokhust Destroyers I would say that there's a good chance that they may gain the MONSTER keyword when the nex codex drops.

Spoiler:


Seems more likely they will get the obliterator treatment,

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Shaelinith wrote:
Assuming the 10 warriors stay at 6PL, it leaves 13 PL for the skorpekh destroyers and the skorpekh lord.
Don't know what to do with that though


Points wise it probably puts the Skorpekh Lord at 125 and the Skorpekh Destroyers at 45 each.


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 Sasori wrote:
Shaelinith wrote:
Assuming the 10 warriors stay at 6PL, it leaves 13 PL for the skorpekh destroyers and the skorpekh lord.
Don't know what to do with that though


Points wise it probably puts the Skorpekh Lord at 125 and the Skorpekh Destroyers at 45 each.

I agree, this is probably what the points values are going to be for each unit.
   
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I would be very surprised if this wasn't the "start collecting!" Box:

Spoiler:
   
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JUST NOTICED SOMETHING

If you look at the art for the Enter the Darkness article on the WHC main page, it's an expanded piece of art from the one we saw in the Szarekhan article, if you look at the right side the art has the same terrain piece seen in the image with the monolith.

Not sure if it means anything, but it gives me hope for terrain

<Dynasty> ~6500pts
War Coven of the Coruscating Gaze ~2500pts
Thrice-Damned Plague Corps ~3250pts
Cult of the Stoneborn Serpent ~2500pts
Admech (TBN) ~2250pts
Kabal of the Shattered Crown ~2250pts 
   
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 p5freak wrote:
 H.B.M.C. wrote:
More notable is the bit about their warriors having bits of Blackstone.

Seems their dynastic trait will be some sort of anti-psyker thing.


Im pretty sure their dynasty trait will be ignore MW in the psychic phase on a natural 6. One of the most useless abilities in the entire game. Szeras may increase this to 5+, when he is within 6".


It could be that the whole army gets the rule they showed for Szeras. It seemed a pretty crap rule on him but something similar army wide would be decent.
   
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That rule is crap no matter how you look at it.
With a reroll you are looking at a 1.4% chance of it doing anything. That is not a rule that is a joke. Having to play on average over 98 games to see a rule do something is not ok.
   
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Pyrothem wrote:
That rule is crap no matter how you look at it.
With a reroll you are looking at a 1.4% chance of it doing anything. That is not a rule that is a joke. Having to play on average over 98 games to see a rule do something is not ok.


It's not 98 games, it's 98 triggers for the rule to occur.
   
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Working on it

I think the rule szeras has would be awful as a trait. Firstly, a good chunk of armies dont even have psykers, amd even less rely on more than a couple. Secondly, necrons are supposedly slower now, so the chances of a unit marching into range are very slim, even with the new rules. The save against wounds/mortal wounds would be better, but unless that is half the dynasty trait there are much better choices

<Dynasty> ~6500pts
War Coven of the Coruscating Gaze ~2500pts
Thrice-Damned Plague Corps ~3250pts
Cult of the Stoneborn Serpent ~2500pts
Admech (TBN) ~2250pts
Kabal of the Shattered Crown ~2250pts 
   
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I like it how this week GW revealed the stats for everyone in Pariah apparently from Szeras
Unless they are revealing him next week just before they actually release it
   
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Unless they just forgot (very possible) they might be saving the preview for closer to the actual release date because something about his new stats and rules might be a big spoiler for the new Necron rules in general.
   
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 Bosskelot wrote:
Unless they just forgot (very possible) they might be saving the preview for closer to the actual release date because something about his new stats and rules might be a big spoiler for the new Necron rules in general.


Aah fair point

Maybe its a hint as to how RP works now

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 Aza'Gorod wrote:
 Bosskelot wrote:
Unless they just forgot (very possible) they might be saving the preview for closer to the actual release date because something about his new stats and rules might be a big spoiler for the new Necron rules in general.


Aah fair point

Maybe its a hint as to how RP works now


Yeah Crypteks could be changing in how they interact with RP which would obviously effect Szeras.
   
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According to the preview video for this week they are going to be viewing the statlines of Indomitus units this Saturday. Should give us an idea of how things are going be shaking out.


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 Sasori wrote:
According to the preview video for this week they are going to be viewing the statlines of Indomitus units this Saturday. Should give us an idea of how things are going be shaking out.


What preview video are you referring to?
   
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punisher357 wrote:
 Sasori wrote:
According to the preview video for this week they are going to be viewing the statlines of Indomitus units this Saturday. Should give us an idea of how things are going be shaking out.


What preview video are you referring to?


https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/06/28/sunday-preview-calling-all-generals/

   
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 Sasori wrote:
According to the preview video for this week they are going to be viewing the statlines of Indomitus units this Saturday. Should give us an idea of how things are going be shaking out.


They will still be using the existing codex as a basis however, unless the new codex is shown alongside.but id expect most of the army wide rules to be as they are now on Saturday.
   
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I'm expecting new codex for Necrons and Marines to appear fairly swiftly after/at the same time. The other option is an upgrade book like Chaos got whereby there's a new codex, but its basically the same as the old with a few addendums - whilst a separate upgrade book is released at a cheaper price for those who already have a current codex.

   
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I can't really see them doing an entirely new Codex for Marines less than a year after the current one came out. Besides, it wouldn't be the first time that Marines weren't the first new 'dex for an edition; just look at 6th.
   
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 Bosskelot wrote:
I can't really see them doing an entirely new Codex for Marines less than a year after the current one came out. Besides, it wouldn't be the first time that Marines weren't the first new 'dex for an edition; just look at 6th.


I'm pretty sure SM are getting a new Codex early in 9th, likely as the second one after Necrons. Stu's made a few comments to that effect on stream and rumours seem to indicate it too. We already know they've worked on the Crusade elements of the SM Codex because they've explicitly been mentioned on stream.

Finally getting to see the statlines of the Indomitus stuff would be great. I wonder if they literally just mean statlines or whether we'll also see the datasheet abilities as well. That would probably be more revealing in telling us the direction they're taking Necrons than just their stats.
   
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Dudeface wrote:
 Sasori wrote:
According to the preview video for this week they are going to be viewing the statlines of Indomitus units this Saturday. Should give us an idea of how things are going be shaking out.


They will still be using the existing codex as a basis however, unless the new codex is shown alongside.but id expect most of the army wide rules to be as they are now on Saturday.

Indomitus comes with a 'minidex' with rules for the units within. I can pretty much guarantee you that they'll sneak in whatever new army-wide rules are coming.
   
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 Kanluwen wrote:
Dudeface wrote:
 Sasori wrote:
According to the preview video for this week they are going to be viewing the statlines of Indomitus units this Saturday. Should give us an idea of how things are going be shaking out.


They will still be using the existing codex as a basis however, unless the new codex is shown alongside.but id expect most of the army wide rules to be as they are now on Saturday.

Indomitus comes with a 'minidex' with rules for the units within. I can pretty much guarantee you that they'll sneak in whatever new army-wide rules are coming.


OK but when the warriors in the mini dex have a different reanimation protocol ruleset to the main codex, how do you expect the codex cryptek to interact with them? Likewise if there's a month delay between it coming out and a new codex, new players might buy the old codex and get confused. If it ends up being hard to purchase then there's some players who can't use the new rules until a codex drops etc.

Causes a lot of problems to have 2 variations of the same rules active at the same time, especially if you don't know how long they'll be relevant for.
   
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Dudeface wrote:
 Kanluwen wrote:
Dudeface wrote:
 Sasori wrote:
According to the preview video for this week they are going to be viewing the statlines of Indomitus units this Saturday. Should give us an idea of how things are going be shaking out.


They will still be using the existing codex as a basis however, unless the new codex is shown alongside.but id expect most of the army wide rules to be as they are now on Saturday.

Indomitus comes with a 'minidex' with rules for the units within. I can pretty much guarantee you that they'll sneak in whatever new army-wide rules are coming.


OK but when the warriors in the mini dex have a different reanimation protocol ruleset to the main codex, how do you expect the codex cryptek to interact with them? Likewise if there's a month delay between it coming out and a new codex, new players might buy the old codex and get confused. If it ends up being hard to purchase then there's some players who can't use the new rules until a codex drops etc.

Causes a lot of problems to have 2 variations of the same rules active at the same time, especially if you don't know how long they'll be relevant for.


I don't disagree, but I also don't think GW really cares about that kind of thing. Their thinking seems to be more along the lines of shoving the datasheets in the Indomitus box and calling ti a day. Whether that works with the current rules probably isn't that relevant to them. It's also not impossible for GW to have changed the RP rules and still have them work with the current Cryptek. As long as there's still a dice roll involved (which we know there is because of the Reanimator preview) the Cryptek's rule still works.
   
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