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2++ - doubtful, unless it's maybe a take only one per army item...and even then... I mean it does the job of a powersword and Stormshield - but is 1 better and 10 points LESS? Can't see it.

The reasons you think it unlikely only reinforce why it is likely for me.l

Too crazy to be fake.

VoidAngel wrote:2++ - doubtful, unless it's maybe a take only one per army item...and even then... I mean it does the job of a powersword and Stormshield - but is 1 better and 10 points LESS? Can't see it.

The point cost is probably the upgrade cost, so you're already paying for the power weapon. Say the 55pt Paladin takes a Warding Staff upgrade for ~25pt, that's still around the cost of 2 TH/SS Terminators from the vanilla codex.

Edit: I actually find the regular NFW being power weapons harder to believe, when combined with the 20pt PAGK rumour. That would mean for 4 points over a vanilla tactical marine, a PAGK would get a power weapon, a storm bolter and whatever special rules GKs get?

I also heard that the models will pack themselves up in your carrying case, that they'll paint themselves and that they'll cook you breakfast before big tournies.

I can't wait.

puma713 wrote:I also heard that the models will pack themselves up in your carrying case, that they'll paint themselves and that they'll cook you breakfast before big tournies.

I can't wait.

Not a big fan of large breakfast before tournies, the facilities are usually lackluster

puma713 wrote:I also heard that the models will pack themselves up in your carrying case, that they'll paint themselves and that they'll cook you breakfast before big tournies.

I can't wait.

I would actually pay GW prices for that.

I dont know what people are moaning about!!

Dreadknight looks sweet.

I know i'll be putting a cockpit over the "pilot" and having an awesome, properly sized:


KNIGHT TITAN!!

Hell yeah.

That Transformer looking thing does look weird, but if I think about a cross between a classic Dreadnought and a Titan, then it seems about right...

whats this about giant dreads?

Vitruvian XVII wrote:I dont know what people are moaning about!!

Dreadknight looks sweet.

I know i'll be putting a cockpit over the "pilot" and having an awesome, properly sized:


KNIGHT TITAN!!

Hell yeah.

YES!! can't belive I never thought of that, I mean they even called it a dreadknight, it's like saying, I know you think knight titans are cool, but we're not going to give you one however, they fit inbetween a dreadnought and a warhound, right, Oh, look, this new release is just that size, *cough*DIY*cough*

Grey Knight always had the medieval crusader style, so a big vehicle with castle towers etc. or a Mini-Titan resembling Kid_Kyoto's model or the Emperor Titan (with a cathedral on its back) would have supported the range. Adding a chrome transformer just doesn't fit the theme, sorry.


BTW Kid_Kyoto: Nice use of the Titan Legions model

Vitruvian XVII wrote:I dont know what people are moaning about!!

Dreadknight looks sweet.

I know i'll be putting a cockpit over the "pilot" and having an awesome, properly sized:


KNIGHT TITAN!!

Hell yeah.

good idea...stormraven LC turret cockpit methinks...
where are knight titans mentioned in fluff?

I know right!

Was wondering why no-one had mentioned it yet.

Suffices to say, my Admech will have some lovely new friends come April

@Shrike: Mind=read, my thoughts entirely, even left it off my SR as a sort of prescience

Old fluff iirc, knight worlds were feudal worlds in service to the AdMech.

Mechanicum

don't know where else


I don't know why, but I always imagined Knights having a cockpit like this, but vertical

Vitruvian XVII wrote:I know right!

Was wondering why no-one had mentioned it yet.

Suffices to say, my Admech will have some lovely new friends come April

@Shrike: Mind=read, my thoughts entirely, even left it off my SR as a sort of prescience

Old fluff iirc, knight worlds were feudal worlds in service to the AdMech.

-I am a psychic. I know what you are thinking. Aw, wash out your mind! Your mother would be ashamed of you...
-how large are they in the fluff? Are they really titan-size?
GIMME LINKS!
pwease.

in mechanicum they are sized between a dred and a warhound, they are equiped with a leman russ sized weapons + a CCW

presumably there are more sorces than that

Vitruvian XVII wrote:I dont know what people are moaning about!!

Dreadknight looks sweet.

I know i'll be putting a cockpit over the "pilot" and having an awesome, properly sized:


KNIGHT TITAN!!

Hell yeah.

YES. Built up with a bit of plasticard, putting angled armour over the legs and shoulders, maybe a back banner. The basic kit kind of looks like a Guyumelef chassis....

Knight titans have been part of the background for a long time; Lexicanum cites an article by Rick Priestley in WD 178. Grey Knights are acknowledged as having access to all sorts of rare and potent technology due to living right next to Mars. I also buy their reticence regarding Dreadnoughts. I don't care how strong your will is, facing the truly horrific forces of Chaos in an unending war would incline you to prefer the relatively peaceful 'retirement' of death, and as a whole the 666th Chapter seems to share this attitude. So Knights make sense as an alternative support choice. In short, I accept it as an addition to the army.

FM Ninja 048 wrote:in mechanicum they are sized between a dred and a warhound, they are equiped with a leman russ sized weapons + a CCW

presumably there are more sorces than that

They are called knights been around for about 20 years in epic scale.

mechanicum wrote:resembling a brutish, mechanical humanoid some nine meters tall,Ares Lictor was a paladin class knight, a one man war machinewith a fearsome array of weaponrybeyond the power of even the strongest of the Terran Emperor's Astartes to bear

standing five times the height of [a feral servitor] the three knights towered over the battlefield.

The knights were armoured in thick plates of plasteel and creamite, protected by banks of powerful shields...and armed with weapons that could kill scores at a time.

i'll try to find more...

@johnstewartjohn, never played epic so I didn't know that, wait, found them

I am excited for everything but that weird dreadnought

Kroothawk wrote:
BTW Kid_Kyoto: Nice use of the Titan Legions model

Thanks!

Cathedralsaurus Rex and Pagodatron are some of my favorite models of all time. And yes, if I ever find a building that's the right scale I will make Mosquera.

I think if there's one lesson GW should learn from this...



It's GET OUT INFORMATION. We've now spent 10 pages ragging on a blurry photo of what we expect will be a flagship model for them. Maybe in person the Dreadknight is awesome but since GW refuses to show it to us first impressions are being formed from a blurry cell phone shot.

And they're not making any effort to counteract people saying Dreadknight=Fail.

The most important thing anyone in PR or advertising needs to do is control the narrative. Instead GW is letting blurry photos and internet wits make the first impression.

And, as a professional propegandist, that's just dumb.

The dreadknight will be cool if it can be posed effectively like a sentinel or a wraithlord. If it has to stand up straight with its arms at its sides... boring.

shrike wrote:
-how large are they in the fluff? Are they really titan-size?
GIMME LINKS!
pwease.

Old ones look like this, not my cup of tea:
http://www.zachary.org/games/gw/epic8.jpg

Kroothawk wrote:

shrike wrote:
-how large are they in the fluff? Are they really titan-size?
GIMME LINKS!
pwease.

Old ones look like this, not my cup of tea:
http://www.zachary.org/games/gw/epic8.jpg

A leman or land raider would come up to the knee joint, maybe.

I think I still have some of these knocking about, but the GKDK is waaaaaay too small to be considered a Knight IMO. They carried larger weapons than Leman Russ grade weaponry. More like Volcano Cannons and Mega Bolters.

But yeah... I can see where GW was going with the design of Dredimus Prime.

Wow so many new pages. The dreadknight thing is ok to me...but...I kinda wanna hear about vehicles that require an Inquisitor present; I hope theres at least 1. Inquisitorial Armies seem focused around just getting assassins and the Inquisitorial Mobs thats kinda bland.

Yeah...let's get off the opinions on what people think looks cool or not...have been waiting for more information or general speculation opposed to the minefield of supposed "roflcopters" we seem to be facing...

What's the deal with the ghost knight character?...I presume the knights vanish after he dies?

ductvader wrote:What's the deal with the ghost knight character?...I presume the knights vanish after he dies?

Why would they though? Mordrack can buy a bunch of them as a retinue and more show up if the dice rolls in his favor, it'd be pretty weird if the whole unit went poof when Mordrack died.

Edit: Here's how he works seemingly

Roll D3 for each unsaved wound he suffers. If = or greater than his remaining wounds, another knight shows up and joins the unit.
32pts per ghost minimum of 1 and max 10

aka_mythos wrote:Why does it look like a transformer?-Because its been painted in very similar colors and then pixelated by low resolution to the point that details are indistinguishable.

More like because it appears to have extremely blocky limbs and a blocky torso much the same way old-school transformers did (such as the ones posted in this thread). It also has oddly long legs that look quite static much the way old transformers did. And because there are a whole bunch of little black things hanging off the back of the shoulders that I swear look like the tires from the combiners' vehicle modes.

Lord Scythican wrote:@VoidAngel:

This isn't even half the acronyms I need to know for my job:

http://www.educationoasis.com/resources/Professional_development/list_edu_acronyms.htm

But I do admit, I am sick of seeing them everywhere. At least Dakka usually has a note for most of them.

Feh... You think *that's* an acronym list?!?! Try working for the Department of Defense sometime!

Valete,

JohnS