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JOHIRA wrote:

aka_mythos wrote:Why does it look like a transformer?-Because its been painted in very similar colors and then pixelated by low resolution to the point that details are indistinguishable.

More like because it appears to have extremely blocky limbs and a blocky torso much the same way old-school transformers did (such as the ones posted in this thread). It also has oddly long legs that look quite static much the way old transformers did. And because there are a whole bunch of little black things hanging off the back of the shoulders that I swear look like the tires from the combiners' vehicle modes.

I see where you're going there...

AKA Menasor, Bruticus, Devastator (not the Bay one), Defensor and Computron.

It's just a shame that it has a visible pilot like the lifters in Aliens. I don't think my skills are good enough to build a cockpit for it.

I have a non Dreadknight question :O

Can the regular GK Dread have a Psycannon and Nemesis Weapon???

Vitruvian XVII wrote:I know right!

Was wondering why no-one had mentioned it yet.

Suffices to say, my Admech will have some lovely new friends come April

@Shrike: Mind=read, my thoughts entirely, even left it off my SR as a sort of prescience

Old fluff iirc, knight worlds were feudal worlds in service to the AdMech.

They have atleast twice before, in this thread alone. But were basiclly told that dumb.

Noir wrote:They have atleast twice before, in this thread alone. But were basiclly told that dumb.

It is dumb. But at the time we didn't realise the great dumberer was in charge of running another army into the ground.

Geez. If the 2++ Warding Stave turns out to be true... I don't care if it does make then 80 pts per model, I will take Paladins with all 2+/2++/FNP with Draigo. That's just... Geez.

shealyr, You spelt cheese wrong

cygnnus wrote:

Lord Scythican wrote:@VoidAngel:

This isn't even half the acronyms I need to know for my job:

http://www.educationoasis.com/resources/Professional_development/list_edu_acronyms.htm

But I do admit, I am sick of seeing them everywhere. At least Dakka usually has a note for most of them.

Feh... You think *that's* an acronym list?!?! Try working for the Department of Defense sometime!

Valete,

JohnS

And I bet the DoD isn't even the worse one out there.

So the tau have joined up with the greyknights to make some transformers then?

Kid_Kyoto wrote: We've now spent 10 pages ragging on a blurry photo of what we expect will be a flagship model for them. Maybe in person the Dreadknight is awesome but since GW refuses to show it to us first impressions are being formed from a blurry cell phone shot.

And they're not making any effort to counteract people saying Dreadknight=Fail.

The most important thing anyone in PR or advertising needs to do is control the narrative. Instead GW is letting blurry photos and internet wits make the first impression.

And, as a professional propegandist, that's just dumb.

There is one way it could work. If, when they show us real pictures, it is so awesome that I start to drool, I will buy one, despite not playing grey knights. I honestly hope that it isn't as ugly as it looks right now. But I know in my heart that it will be.

Let's just say that if it is terrible, I was right. If it's amazing, I will be relieved, and there will be hope for when tau come out again in who knows how many years.

I hope this dosen't end like the chibi hawk. Maybe its just posed in a stupid way?

Yeah, I mentioned knight titans about 300 pages back, and I may not have been the first.

They are about 50% taller than a Wraithlord, and 3-4 times as massive. I have an Eldar version in 40K scale.

People keep saying that the photo is bad cell phone shot - it isn't. It's a deliberately leaked and depixilated photo. It's been digitally blurred like those crime show interviews with gang informants. Its voice has probably been made to sound human, too.

Grey knights are defiantly more than meets the eye.











(Did I say that first!?!? Did I ?)

Id just like to say pages are appearing in this thread faster than I can read...

Commissar Ciapha (on bolter and Chainsword)

Dreadknight comes with (And this is how you know Ward did it) two Nemesis Doomfists as default.

-Grey Knight Strike Squad Options:
-For every five:
-Psilencer (Free!)
-Psycannon
-Incinerator

-All the Nemesis weapons (Any model!)
-Various point costs

-Psybolt Ammo
-Personal Teleporters
-Justicar can MC any of his weapons

-Henchmen, upon further examination don't take up a FoC slot but you MUST have an Inquisitor to get a Warband (One warband for each Inquisitor you have). And there's no limitations, so yes you might see Daemonhost, an Arco, and a Mystic in one group.

-Assassins DO take up an Elite slot.

-Librarian can take all of the powers and can be upgraded to Mastery Level 3 allowing him to cast 3 per turn. Also, he comes default in Terminator Armour. AND can take all of the various Nemesis weapons.

-Thawn, no, but he is Mastery Level 2. Not sure why, as Hammerhands is the only power outside of I Shall Not Yield that he has.

Also, before I list this, if I'm over the line at all, PLEASE tell me so I can remove what's necessary not to get my butt kicked.

-Valeria has a LOOOOOT of equipment. Here it is:
-She's an Ordo Xenos Inquisitor
-Also, Stubborn
-Stats: 4 4 3 3 3 4 3(5) 10 3+
-Power Armour; Frag, Krak, & Psyk-Out Nades; Laspistol
-Graviton Pistol: Range: 12" Strength: 10 AP: 1 Type: Pistol, One Shot
-Jacked it from an Alien Weaponsmith in the Ultima Segmentum apparently.
-Runes of Destiny: ALL (Armour or invul) Successful saves against her shooting or CC attacks must be rerolled.
-Eldar Runes she's taken over her career, but she ain't got no wraithbone batteries to make em work at full power
-Dagger of Midnight: Grants +2A (Included in profile) that MUST be rolled with different colored dice (Or separate I suppose) because if she rolls doubles with them, the attacks hit her instead.
-Stole this from an Eldar Pirate's corpse. Apparently the dagger is "controlled by a rebellious and bloodthirsty intelligence". Please perform an "Oogedy boogedy boo" after reading that.
-Hyperstone Maze: Can be used once per game in lieu of her CC attacks. Must be directed towards a character or MC in B2B contact. Target must roll a d6 and roll equal to or below their remaining wounds or be "trapped in the maze forever" AKA removed from play.
-Multi-faceted emerald that leads to a spooky sub-dimension, apparently
-Forceshield: 4+ Invul save
-Hand-mounted forcefield thingy.

Also, randomly enough, they can take Ordo Xenos inquisitors. Weird.

-And yes, VenDreads are the only ones with Reinforced Aegis


Edit: Justicars are in. True Grit is out as far as RULE goes, but I think Stormbolters count as pistols for them anyway.

Vindicare Info:

-Move Through Cover, Fleet, Infiltrate, Fearless, Uncanny Reflexes (4+ Invul)
-Deadshot: In Soviet Russia, Vindicare shoots you. Kidding, the Vindicare's player picks who he hits, not the opposing player.
-Blind Grenades
-Exitus Pistol: 12" S: X AP:1 Pistol, Sniper
-Exitus Rifle: 36" S:X AP: 1 Sniper, Heavy 1
-Rounds: Must Declare which round before rolling to hit
-Hellfire: 2+ to wound
-Shieldbreaker: Takes no damage, but PERMANENTLY removes Invul saves granted by items or wargeat
-Turbo-Penetrator: Inflicts 2 wounds on any non-vehicle model wounded. Has penetration of 4D6 against vehicles!

You forgot the last bit :p

I Shall Not Yield! only works on Thawn, sorry.

As for the other assassins:

Eversor:
-Neuro Gauntlet: Counts as Lightning Claw
-Frenzon: Gain d6 attacks on the turn they charge instead of 1
-Meltabombs
-Furious Charge
-Executioner Pistol: 12" S4 AP2 Pistol, Poisoned (2+)

Cadillus:
-C'Tan Phase Blade: Power Weapon. Instant Death against unsaved wounds regardless of Toughness
-Neural Shredder: Template S8 AP 1 Pistol Hits are resolved against Leadership not Toughness. Can't hurt vehicles.
-Polymorphine: When the assassin arrives from reserve, choose an enemy unit. Chosen unit immediately takes D6 S4 AP 2 hits. Then the assassin is placed anywhere within 3" using Deepstrike rules but does not scatter.
-Hit and Run & Stealth

Cullexus:
-Psyk-Out Nades, Psyocculum (<- Not actually sure what that does)
-Animus Speculum: 12" S5 AP1 Assault 2. For every psyker within 12" of the assassin, add 2+ to the Speculum's assault value
-Etherium: Any unit wishing to shoot or use a psychic power on the Cullexus must pass an LD test on 3d6 (Vehicles count as LD10). If the test is failed they can't target the assassin but can target others.

So, am I seeing that if you take an Inquisitor, you could potentially spend all the rest of your points on the retinue? How does that work with the FoC? Wouldn't it be tactically kinda suicidal? (well, people do run giant seer councils...so I guess it could be done)

Xenos inquisitor with 18 Clawed Fiends of the Dorian Sector here I come! heh heh


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Vhalyar wrote:
Cadillus:
-C'Tan Phase Blade: Power Weapon. Instant Death against unsaved wounds regardless of Toughness
-Neural Shredder: Template S8 AP 1 Pistol Hits are resolved against Leadership not Toughness. Can't hurt vehicles.
-Polymorphine: When the assassin arrives from reserve, choose an enemy unit. Chosen unit immediately takes D6 S4 AP 2 hits. Then the assassin is placed anywhere within 3" using Deepstrike rules but does not scatter.
-Hit and Run & Stealth

No freaking way. There's no way they made the Callidus more abusive than it was in 2nd edition!

Valeria looks crap

Callidus is a let down (no ignore invulners )

Vindicare is an absolute must. Every GK army needs at least 2!

Thrawn looks meh

Jaon wrote:Vindicare is an absolute must. Every GK army needs at least 2!

Yeah, the Vindicare looks extremely potent and versatile. But unfortunately, you can only field one. Still, that one can cause some significant damage if the enemy doesn't deal with him fast enough.

There is typically no save possible against C'tan weapons. Might be an omission in the rumor, actually in the rules. Still, it potentially kills a small squad of anything when it comes down. Used to just replace one guy. Points back on deployment? Not bad...

Does the Eversor still wound on a 4+ is the question...

Well, inv ignoring or not, the callidus is still very adept at killing stuff like long fangs, who could otherwise cause some very serious problems with your terminators and storm ravens.

And I thought Vindicares had always been rumoured to be 0-3 elite slot? or has it changed to 0-1 no slot?

Jaon wrote:And I thought Vindicares had always been rumoured to be 0-3 elite slot? or has it changed to 0-1 no slot?

The B&C guy says that they take up a slot and are each 0-1. It's possible that there's some kind of Inquisitor gimmick that he missed, but that seems doubtful.

-Hyperstone Maze: Can be used once per game in lieu of her CC attacks. Must be directed towards a character or MC in B2B contact. Target must roll a d6 and roll equal to or below their remaining wounds or be "trapped in the maze forever" AKA removed from play

Whoa

That sounds nasty.

Hahaha, her name is Valeria, and she's running around with looted alien artifacts! I hope the model looks just like Claudia Black.
ahahahahahahaha

Woh ho ho. Paladins can have a 2++ Save?

At least one dude can take one; no idea if it's limited in any way.

bhsman wrote:At least one dude can take one; no idea if it's limited in any way.

The way it was described, it looks like a piece of gear they could all take. Which is probably not the best idea anyway.

GK players will roll more dice for the Culexus' shooting than for the rest of their army put together, with a bit of luck.

Well, looks like Matt Ward tried to see if he can out cheese the BA codex. He seems to have succeeded.

This codex is going to be interesting...


The balance between lack of survivability and overspending your points is going to be a fine line indeed. On one hand we can have the possibility of Lord Draigo and a retinue of 10 2+/2++ power weapon wielding psychic monstrosities, on the other we have a pile of dead grey knights at the hand of a huge swarm of gribblies.

Happygrunt wrote:Well, looks like Matt Ward tried to see if he can out cheese the BA codex. He seems to have succeeded.

This what my thought exactly when I read Valeria's stats above. Now, granted, I don't have a Codex in my hand so these rumors are still just that - rumors - but more and more it seems like these authors are sitting there thinking, "Ya know what would be cool?!" And then penciling it into the Codex. It's getting a bit cumbersome.

Your character can do x, y, and z? Well guess what? Mine can do all that too, but once per game, I am allowed to drop a bowling ball on the table and any models that are knocked over are removed from play!

Usually codex creep (or creep of any kind) has a pace - it is generally slow. One thing "creeps" in, then another, then another. But, if these rumors are true, I shudder to think of the state of the game by the time the Chaos Codex comes out, or Eldar. It's like the next codex is meant to be crazier and more superfluous than the one before it.