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Correction: Epic is 6mm, not 8mm (!)

One swallow does not make a summer, and GW releasing some titans that scale with 8/10mm will not suddenly switch the whole format of the game for the current playerbase and all of the other companies that make ranges in 6mm (not least the masses of all of the OOP stock range)

 Yodhrin wrote:
The big issue for me is aesthetic. There are a lot of "almost" 6mm ranges out there, but I'm not really interested in "almost". If I get into a game it's because I care about the setting so I want models that fit that setting exactly - note, I don't care who's selling them, just that they're accurate enough to pass as "official" to my eye.

So a GW-produced return to Epic is a big deal for me personally, because none of the readily available 6mm companies have made their not-Space Marines(etc) look enough like actual Space Marines(etc), and the original models are both a bit lacking by modern standards and sodding expensive now they're "collectible".


I know it's very much a personal thing (and I believe we may have this conversation before! ), but by my reckoning think the below would probably be classed as 'close enough' to most hobbyists.

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That was an interesting point though someone made about metal miniatures. You have a bit of a Catch-22 here for GW. They won't produce miniatures in metal, which arguably the infantry will need to be initially - resin will be too brittle/fine to use at that scale, and I'm guessing you'd need big sales for the prospect of infantry coming along in plastic. Which you won't get on the back of just Adeptus Titanicus box sales - as much as I love the game and scale, I can't see this being as popular as BB or Necromunda, there are too many wargaming newbies that think games have to be played at 28mm and will scoff at small scale.

Epic 30K&40K! A new players guide, contributors welcome https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/751316.page
Small but perfectly formed! A Great Crusade Epic 6mm project: https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/694411.page
Excellent discussion forum & information collection for Epic and other small scale miniatures: http://www.tacticalwargames.net/taccmd/index.php

 
   
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Well yeah, but any future Epic would be in 8mm

Where are those Orks from? These great alternate models always seem to only be available from some super secret garage caster when I try to buy some! EDIT: same question re the marines!

I guess the real decision comes when they exhaust the heresy Titans and knights. Do they produce Xenos titans or do they go into Heresy plastics for 8mm legions? Or stop 8mm entirely

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Erm...the pics from the post above are models by Vanguard Miniatures. Available here: https://vanguardminiatures.co.uk

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Ahh, I remember the was an indiegogo campaign for the plastics a long time ago and I remember E&Cs posts on taccom a long while ago. Somehow had not realised that site existed. Thanks and sorry for the off topic!
   
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 Pacific wrote:
Correction: Epic is 6mm, not 8mm (!)


... eh, kinda. Stand some Epic miniatures - even the very first MkI Rhinos and Mk6 Marines, so no worries about scale creep - next to some actual 1:300 scale models and the difference is ... impressive.
   
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Troublemaker Games got taken over by Vanguard Miniatures. Stay updated here: https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/694749.page

And then there's this: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/small-scale-armies-from-vanguard-miniatures#/

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OK.

While I realize that there isn't much to talk about here - yet - it is probably best to take a lot of this stuff to other, more appropriate and on topic threads.

Thanks!

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New news on AT: http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2017/12/adeptus-titanicus-mentioned-in-ama.html
   
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Right behind you.


How about copy/pasting the info over rather than forcing people to go to that festering cesspit of malware?

Or you could have looked on the first page of N&R and seen that the AMA actually got its own thread.
   
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Nothing really new that we didn't already know. But, it is enlightening to see a peak behind the curtain at the occasional machiavellian management maneuvering mishchief. Still, Generalissimo Kroll hightlighted some expanded parts to bits we've got basic info on. Cross posting as I know a few subscribers for this thread:

 General Kroll wrote:
Yeah I’m much more interested in the AT stuff.

Like this:
Question... “For Adeptus Titanicus - I heard that you really managed to capture that feel of a titan machine spirit railing against it's Princeps? So if the Princeps is playing it safe and staying back shooting from afar there's a chance the Titan will require some sort of self control check to stop it charging in with it's power fist and going against the player's wishes? If so, you're my favourite person. If not, well you might still place in the top 100 I suppose."

James’ Answer

“Do I get a special prize or something for being your favourite person? Because yeah, that's pretty much what happens. Basically, when you push your titan's reactors to do something cool and unusual (it involves rolling a number of special Reactor Dice, which can lead to your engines overheating, but lets you supercharge weapons, turn on the spot more easily, go faster, etc.) there's a chance that the Machine Spirit will rebel against this mistreatment. You get a Command check, representing your Princeps' Willpower trying to keep the machine in check, but if you fail there's a table you roll on. The plan (which is hopefully still the case) was that in campaign play, titans would each have their own personalities and preferred methods, a bit like Tyranid instinctive behaviour. In short, though, yeah, that can totally happen. I'll accept a certificate in the post.



BoL(lock)s can clear off though.


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One definite new piece of information that is exciting though:

We all want our Orks! I did some early planning on Gargant rules...

Interestingly, it's set during the Heresy for the same reason the original Adeptus Titanicus was set during the Heresy - because it means you only have to sculpt one set of models, and paint them different colours!

If the game's successful, which I'm hoping it will be, I'm sure there could be expansions that introduce the alien races


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Would love to see some more Gargants, if they do ever get around to it. The price on most of them on ebay these days is obscene, and there aren't that many third party producers that have stepped in to fill the void yet.

Epic 30K&40K! A new players guide, contributors welcome https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/751316.page
Small but perfectly formed! A Great Crusade Epic 6mm project: https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/694411.page
Excellent discussion forum & information collection for Epic and other small scale miniatures: http://www.tacticalwargames.net/taccmd/index.php

 
   
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 Pacific wrote:
Would love to see some more Gargants, if they do ever get around to it. The price on most of them on ebay these days is obscene, and there aren't that many third party producers that have stepped in to fill the void yet.


And if they do well in small scale, they can scale them up to 28mm.
   
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 Pacific wrote:
Would love to see some more Gargants, if they do ever get around to it. The price on most of them on ebay these days is obscene, and there aren't that many third party producers that have stepped in to fill the void yet.


I love Gargants in Epic, especially from 2nd edition. You'd unload everything into, you couldn't miss, it'd have fires all over, missing arms, the Kaptain would've been blown off but it still came at you! You just had to hope the fires ran away and it'd explode in typical Orky (loud, messy, destructive) fashion!

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Yeah the Gargants news is definitely exciting, it means they are at least planning ahead to Xenos inclusions.

I wonder if we will see any stuff from AT at the New Years open day?

Also, does anyone else reckon AT may be 2018s Blood Bowl/Necromunda? As in the just before Christmas release.

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Someone from FW already said "AT maybe in 4th Quatal 2018".
   
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 Malika2 wrote:
Troublemaker Games got taken over by Vanguard Miniatures. Stay updated here: https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/694749.page

And then there's this: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/small-scale-armies-from-vanguard-miniatures#/


Technically, Vanguard bought the Troublemaker Games 6mm "Defeat In Detail" range, and Troublemaker Games itself is still in operation, eg with the soon-to-be-released plastic buildings kits (see my sig link).

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Incredibly rude of that horrible rumour monger site to steal my comment and post it for their hits. And deliberately crop my name out of their screenshot to boot.

Scumbags. Should by boycotted wherever possible
   
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Interesting stuff. I know we all loved the Tyranid Instinctive Behaviour rules.

   
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While I would really love to see all the Xenos races return to AT, it's going to depend on sales.

I sincerely hope the player base (and demand) is still out there!
   
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Well. Still no word giving much hope for stuff other than titans(ie tanks, infantry etc) so still on waiting mode here.

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If GW continue the pattern of releasing specialist games just before Xmas as they did with Bloodbowl & Necromunda, I wouldn't expect much concrete info on AT before the summer.
   
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 schoon wrote:
While I would really love to see all the Xenos races return to AT, it's going to depend on sales.

I sincerely hope the player base (and demand) is still out there!


The fact that there is still such a strong community for Epic (although it's obviously a bit under the radar, as a lot of people - myself included previously - don't seem to know about it), then you have to think that there will definitely be the player base there.

Not Blood Bowl big, which was still getting tournaments with hundreds of players even without the GW re-boot, but I would say pretty sizeable. I think you'll get a lot of younger players especially saying "oh my God, titans and super-heavies are so much better suited to small scale rather than 28mm. Why on earth did GW not think of this before!"

Epic 30K&40K! A new players guide, contributors welcome https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/751316.page
Small but perfectly formed! A Great Crusade Epic 6mm project: https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/694411.page
Excellent discussion forum & information collection for Epic and other small scale miniatures: http://www.tacticalwargames.net/taccmd/index.php

 
   
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Tiny titbit dropped today, courtesy of Battle Bunnies:

Titan Weapons: Titan Weapons will be created in 40k Scale then Down scaled to Adeptus Titanicus.


A full seminar on Adeptus Titanicus is scheduled for tomorrow.

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I'm more and more excited about this, whether or not epic makes a comeback. the sculpts being done in 40k size will really help give them the detail they need.

If epic did comeback it would just be icing on the cake.

Now we just need BFG and the triumvirate will be complete.
   
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I think my excitement has finally worn off . Still very interested to see how the sculpts come out at the smaller scale, especially in plastic... but do we even know if it's coming out this year?
   
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 RiTides wrote:
I think my excitement has finally worn off



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We'll find out soon enough eh.

I'd have said yes it'll be out this year before, but TBH I'm not so sure now, especially with that "sculpting in 40K scale first" thing, the extra work to convert everything down to AT scale will add a fair bit of time I expect(you can't just "resize" it in the CAD software and you're done, they'll have to go in and manually re-greeble the surface detailing to account for the size).

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I'm pretty sure they've been working towards plastic for quite a while now. Hopefully we see stuff in 8mm tomorrow
   
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 Yodhrin wrote:
I'd have said yes it'll be out this year before, but TBH I'm not so sure now, especially with that "sculpting in 40K scale first" thing, the extra work to convert everything down to AT scale will add a fair bit of time I expect(you can't just "resize" it in the CAD software and you're done, they'll have to go in and manually re-greeble the surface detailing to account for the size).


At least that means some of the missing options for titans in 28 will finally appear- I know I would pick up a coup more reaver carapace guns, and would love to see the warlord carapace guns not be paired letting you mix them up.
   
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 RiTides wrote:
I think my excitement has finally worn off . Still very interested to see how the sculpts come out at the smaller scale, especially in plastic... but do we even know if it's coming out this year?


I fully expect Adepticus Titanicus to come out in November this year. Tony Cottrell talked about their game a year strategy on warhammer TV last year. They should also have all six Necromunda houses out by then. They can then put additional releases into the once a quarter rotation with bloodbowl and Necromunda so they will have one big release a month going forward.

If they keep up their schedule Bloodbowl will have 14 teams by the end of 2019 so they can release BFG and put bloodbowl on the back burner a bit.
   
 
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