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2024/09/18 18:22:49
Subject: Wargames Atlantic New Releases and News 2024
The ships are basic, but potentially fairly widely useful. Curious about the other four designs.
The crew figures would benefit from some physical samples... They seem to have some odd proportions, and it's difficult to tell how much of that is just the renders looking weird, as renders often do.
2024/09/20 18:23:33
Subject: Wargames Atlantic New Releases and News 2024
New SP looks very ooh-rah. Think it is a manned HMG-style weapon rather than an autonomous platform, but could be some kind of 'sentry gun' I guess.
Not totally blown away by the design, but don't hate it either. Will probably end up getting some eventually.
here is hoping it's a sentry gun and not just another crew served. my own suggestions in the WGA idea thread for the set was to lean into the light infantry feel. with the heavy weapons being stuff like ManPad rocket launchers, portable MG's, Grenade launchers, etc. and the command squad parts being stuff like SMG/PDW versions of the 'lasgun' weapons the basic set uses, as well as various customization bits for non-combat gear.
2024/09/24 13:12:20
Subject: Wargames Atlantic New Releases and News 2024
The Last War is a game by Will Rahman-Daultrey the creator of the popular Forbidden Psalm game system. https://wargamesatlantic.com/collections/the-last-war As we did with the This Quar's War game we will be bringing you a game that includes a full rulebook, tokens, dice, and plastic goodness including: 128 page rulebook Full color game token sheets All the dice you need to play WW1 British Frame (5 28mm Models) WW1 German Frame (6 28mm Models) WW1 Russian Frame (7 28mm Models) WW1 French Frame (7 28mm Models) Two Weird War One Conversions Frames with ROUSes, Huge Maggots, and lots of conversion heads and arms (including tentacles) to Last War-up your troops! 36 25mm Dual Use hard plastic bases Models require assembly and painting. Product contents may vary from photos.
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2024/09/25 16:34:29
Subject: Re:Wargames Atlantic New Releases and News 2024
No idea how well the game will play, but it's an interesting concept. No hard details other than it's a semi-coop warband game where each player plays a guard captain and 5 guards and you are competing against each other to go around town and solve crimes, help NPC citizens and apprehend NPC criminals. I was not particularly impressed when I played the 1st ed Test of Honour, but 0200 Hours is pretty fantastic. Even if the game is awful, those figures look great
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mithril2098 wrote: here is hoping it's a sentry gun and not just another crew served. my own suggestions in the WGA idea thread for the set was to lean into the light infantry feel. with the heavy weapons being stuff like ManPad rocket launchers, portable MG's, Grenade launchers, etc. and the command squad parts being stuff like SMG/PDW versions of the 'lasgun' weapons the basic set uses, as well as various customization bits for non-combat gear.
To be honest all you need is a sensor pod that can be swapped out for rear gunner trigger assembly, or even just some infantry arms with a remote control, and you have a nice little remote OR manned turret depending on whether you put infantry controlling it or not.
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2024/09/26 05:44:41
Subject: Wargames Atlantic New Releases and News 2024
Ancestral Hamster wrote: I'd like to see the civilian side. IIRC, they did say there would be civilians and criminals.
"'Ere now, guv'nor, I'm cutting me own throat 'ere."
And C.M.O.T. Dibbler counts as both!
Civilians? That's going to seriously hurt my wallet then. I love and need more civilians. The guards not so much, but that's mostly because I'm not the biggest fan of plate and prefer them to only have mail. But that's just me.
Last I've seen of the rules they were a "concept scribbled on a napkin at lunch" level nothingburger, which feels at odds with going all in on commissioning two plastic sprues and pre-printed mdf terrain. Hopefully they do actually get as polished as everything else, or else this is all just a very aggressive marketing campaign for some plastic minis.
The old meta is dead and the new meta struggles to be born. Now is the time of munchkins.
2024/09/26 12:36:13
Subject: Wargames Atlantic New Releases and News 2024
lord_blackfang wrote: Last I've seen of the rules they were a "concept scribbled on a napkin at lunch" level nothingburger, which feels at odds with going all in on commissioning two plastic sprues and pre-printed mdf terrain. Hopefully they do actually get as polished as everything else, or else this is all just a very aggressive marketing campaign for some plastic minis.
You probably haven't been paying attention to his development of the rules over the last couple years. Remember that Graham is a consummate perfectionist and that the foundation of this game is built from the same concepts as the 02 Hundred Hours one.
Like we did with 02 Hundred Hours we've made plastic sets for the game but these will also be part of our Classic Fantasy range. The City Folk set will be pretty amazing for populating your D&D towns and for kitbashing. The guard will make good adventurers, mercenaries, etc.
The plastics for both will be ready next month.
Valkir plastic T1 due on October 8th. Barons' War Levy and Serjeants plastic T1s at end of October. Bunch of Damned frames in between those too.
2024/09/26 13:50:47
Subject: Wargames Atlantic New Releases and News 2024
Wargames Atlantic wrote: You probably haven't been paying attention to his development of the rules over the last couple years. Remember that Graham is a consummate perfectionist and that the foundation of this game is built from the same concepts as the 02 Hundred Hours one.
I admit so far I've not seen anything tangible enough to be classed as something more than a marketing pitch, until the new WIP posted an hour ago. Which does seem like there's an actual game there, and if this is an established author, of course it's easy for them to have a game in their head, but it was surprising to me how little actual typesetting had been done for something that feels like it should release any moment now. And I'd still say there's a few dozen games in 1-box-challenge that look more polished at this moment
Looking forward to Damned-tober!
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The old meta is dead and the new meta struggles to be born. Now is the time of munchkins.
2024/09/26 14:40:21
Subject: Wargames Atlantic New Releases and News 2024
Wargames Atlantic wrote: You probably haven't been paying attention to his development of the rules over the last couple years. Remember that Graham is a consummate perfectionist and that the foundation of this game is built from the same concepts as the 02 Hundred Hours one.
I admit so far I've not seen anything tangible enough to be classed as something more than a marketing pitch, until the new WIP posted an hour ago. Which does seem like there's an actual game there, and if this is an established author, of course it's easy for them to have a game in their head, but it was surprising to me how little actual typesetting had been done for something that feels like it should release any moment now. And I'd still say there's a few dozen games in 1-box-challenge that look more polished at this moment
Looking forward to Damned-tober!
There's a 6-page article about the game in the latest issue of WI.
2024/09/26 15:49:19
Subject: Wargames Atlantic New Releases and News 2024
Civilians? That's going to seriously hurt my wallet then. I love and need more civilians. The guards not so much, but that's mostly because I'm not the biggest fan of plate and prefer them to only have mail. But that's just me.
I've enough guard types both from wargames and RPGs that I do not need them. I don't have civilians, so that's my main interest. EDIT: Though I'll get a single sprue each of WGA Baron's War Foot Knights, Men at Arms, and Levy once the latter two are released and so available from 3rd party resellers.
As for plate, that does not fit my image of city watch. Plate was expensive and it is highly unlikely that someone working as the watch could afford it, or that the city would provide it. Mail, leather, or a cloth gambeson are all more typical. There's also a practical consideration. If you're walking a beat for the day, do you really want to bear that much weight when the most violence you're likely to encounter will be from pickpockets and footpads? The lighter armors should be enough for the average violent criminal encounter.
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Wargames Atlantic wrote: You probably haven't been paying attention to his development of the rules over the last couple years. Remember that Graham is a consummate perfectionist and that the foundation of this game is built from the same concepts as the 02 Hundred Hours one.
Like we did with 02 Hundred Hours we've made plastic sets for the game but these will also be part of our Classic Fantasy range. The City Folk set will be pretty amazing for populating your D&D towns and for kitbashing. The guard will make good adventurers, mercenaries, etc.
The plastics for both will be ready next month.
Valkir plastic T1 due on October 8th. Barons' War Levy and Serjeants plastic T1s at end of October. Bunch of Damned frames in between those too.
Looking forward to both those sets. Happy to see the Barons War Levy and Sergeants are not far off too. Any chance we’ll see a preview of the mounted Sergeants soon?
Steve
2024/09/27 04:51:57
Subject: Wargames Atlantic New Releases and News 2024
Civilians? That's going to seriously hurt my wallet then. I love and need more civilians. The guards not so much, but that's mostly because I'm not the biggest fan of plate and prefer them to only have mail. But that's just me.
I've enough guard types both from wargames and RPGs that I do not need them. I don't have civilians, so that's my main interest. EDIT: Though I'll get a single sprue each of WGA Baron's War Foot Knights, Men at Arms, and Levy once the latter two are released and so available from 3rd party resellers.
As for plate, that does not fit my image of city watch. Plate was expensive and it is highly unlikely that someone working as the watch could afford it, or that the city would provide it. Mail, leather, or a cloth gambeson are all more typical. There's also a practical consideration. If you're walking a beat for the day, do you really want to bear that much weight when the most violence you're likely to encounter will be from pickpockets and footpads? The lighter armors should be enough for the average violent criminal encounter.
Thing is, overall there was no "City watch" in reality, there were citizens who brought their own armament and, depending on century of course, they were equipped with what they could afford. Plate was cheaper than mail usually, both affordable for an average citizen if he saved for about a year. Or inherited them from their fathers.
The "City watch" is something made up in fantasy universes where you have modern times polices projected into the past. Totally fine if you do a fantasy setting, but putting them in plate armour wouldn't be the fantastical part about them .
2024/09/27 10:13:29
Subject: Wargames Atlantic New Releases and News 2024
Civilians? That's going to seriously hurt my wallet then. I love and need more civilians. The guards not so much, but that's mostly because I'm not the biggest fan of plate and prefer them to only have mail. But that's just me.
I've enough guard types both from wargames and RPGs that I do not need them. I don't have civilians, so that's my main interest. EDIT: Though I'll get a single sprue each of WGA Baron's War Foot Knights, Men at Arms, and Levy once the latter two are released and so available from 3rd party resellers.
As for plate, that does not fit my image of city watch. Plate was expensive and it is highly unlikely that someone working as the watch could afford it, or that the city would provide it. Mail, leather, or a cloth gambeson are all more typical. There's also a practical consideration. If you're walking a beat for the day, do you really want to bear that much weight when the most violence you're likely to encounter will be from pickpockets and footpads? The lighter armors should be enough for the average violent criminal encounter.
That makes a lot of sense. The city watch, in my opinion, would probably be akin to militia duty for citizens and I wouldn't expect them to be so heavily armed indeed. It's the same reason why you don't see the police patrolling in full military kit. It's heavy and unpleasant.
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as there was no city watch in reality, how that one looks like and which encounters there might be depends on the fantasy setting anyway
like a Warhammer City Watch were Undeads and Skavens appear during the night, being heavy armoured is much more useful than in a setting were the only encounter would be drunken down people
Harry, bring this ring to Narnia or the Sith will take the Enterprise
2024/09/27 16:51:27
Subject: Wargames Atlantic New Releases and News 2024
I mean, it's pretty standard D&D armor for town guards, just basic platemail/half-plate. Medieval economics are interesting, but they don't account for magic or alchemy or dragons. History is fun and should inform fantasy, I just never understood the need to constrain fantasy worlds too closely to the real world.
Ancestral Hamster wrote: There's also a practical consideration. If you're walking a beat for the day, do you really want to bear that much weight when the most violence you're likely to encounter will be from pickpockets and footpads? The lighter armors should be enough for the average violent criminal encounter.
Plate is pretty much the lightest form of armour. The stronger your materials, the less mass you need to be effective. Cloth and leather armour was astonishingly heavyweight stuff; twenty layers or more of dense fabric, often covered with leather, and treated with wax and oils. Nothing like LARP 'quilted' (two layers with some wadding between them) and leather armour.