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Hmmm... it appears Ice Angel's post is lost in the ether in-between pages... nope... my mistake... It's MY post that's lost in the ether.

Good suggestions guys... I'm all ears at this point... I might try Arakasi's idea to see how it looks before changing the color of the helmet entirely. Luckily because if it's location and shape it can probably be re-painted several times without any noticeable negative affects.


Hope to make some progress on the dread today *and* do a little work of the build on Arakasi's bug boy... just need to rummage around and find all the parts. I suppose I could start by just building the swords for him... there's enough work in that to fill up an afternoon all by itself. Might not get too much done though, parent's are coming over to pick up the kids for a week (Yippie!!) before school starts again.

Gitsplitta wrote:
Here are the slots:

Sergeant: Solar Lions (Solar_Lion)
Special Weapon: Plasma Trooper, Cromson Palidins (Lennysmash)
Trooper 1: Blood Angles (pie_2054)
Trooper 2: Salamanders (Twisted_Thrasher)
Trooper 3:
Trooper 4:
Trooper 5:
Trooper 6:
Trooper 7:
Heavy Weapon:
- Plasma, Dark Angles (whalemusic360)

I know this isn't the first time this has happened but I get a kick out of it every time. Trooper 1: Blood Angles???? lmao, are they loyal obtuse marines or more raging isosceles?

On another note, put me down for one of those troopers slots. You need an Ice Angel in there.

As requested.... (and you're right... I NEED an Ice Angle in there... or is it I.C.E. Agent??) *grin* Sorry... government employee humor... such as it is.


Here are the slots: updated 8/22

Sergeant: Solar Lions (Solar_Lion)
Special Weapon: Plasma Trooper, Crimson Palidins (Lennysmash)
Trooper 1: Blood Angels (pie_2054)
Trooper 2: Salamanders (Twisted_Thrasher)
Trooper 3: Ice Angels (Ice_Angel)
Trooper 4: Salamanders (Gretar)
Trooper 5:
Trooper 6:
Trooper 7:
Heavy Weapon:
- Plasma, Dark Angels (whalemusic360)

Definitely paint it white, and maybe add a large black camo marking going down the front

BTW, am working on trooper 1, it's coming out okay

How come Ice gets angels and pie and I get angles?

Don't worry I got Cromson Palidins... I've tried to find a colour scheme but to no avail. I'm sorry Git I failed you, alas I shall have to just paint you one of my CRIMSON Paladins .

Wow hes doin pretty awsome on the spelling thing, isnt he?

LOL, sorry guys, with the new set up I'm like... 9 feet away from the computer screen and I can't see a thing... it's like typing in English and little hieroglyphics appear on the screen instead. Maybe I'll move the couch up a bit...

*grunt" *strain* *pant*

OK, now I'm about 7 feet away... we'll see if that helps. Eh... not much, perhaps a little.


Though if Lenny continues to grouse... I may rename them the "Curmudgeon Palidins".

I can hear their battle-cry now... "Dang 'Nids, get off my lawn!"


O.K. think I've corrected the spelling... at least all of the A-words are spelled the same, if not correctly.

Lol, I like the sound of that, I'll start remodelling their preceptory into a giant front porch with row upon row of rocking chairs, haha.

I love the way your Mantis Warriors are turning out man!

Thanks Thorgrim... slow and steady. It's very cool to get the positive feedback though... helps keep me going at the painting table.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/120/312405.page

Not sure if you have come across this thread yet Gits so I'll post it up for you.

Thanks Len, interesting stuff... hadn't seen that thread before.

Git,

The problem as you have noted is that the black helmet, while cool in concept, ends up being a big black hole in the model. This is because the helmet is essentially just a big flat surface.

My suggestion to avoid this would be to do something that will add some definition to the helmet. Thoughts include:

1) Extreme Highlight in light gray. This would be on the vent at the top and possibly either at the edge of or just over the eyes.

2) Your standard camo is the yellow-brown with black? Do the helmet in reverse then, with black having some yellow-brown camo. This will help make the helmet a focal point as well as tie in with the rest of the model.

3) Add some freehand details to the helmet. Scroll work, text (in white), Chapter Symbols, or even just some straight lines (think war paint) would add detail and help break up the monotony.

Am moving a Mantis Warrior discussion over from another thread...

Concerning the Vanguard and the double-chain swords...

Leonus wrote:Have you considered using Tyranid Scything Talons for Mantis blades? Could either be decorations on armour or even replace power swords and the like.

To which I responded...

Gitsplitta wrote:@Leonis: I'm not really familiar with the tyranid line, so no. I'll look into it though. Thanks! When I first started this project, I thought about using a more organic form for the mantis arms, but I decided that whatever form they took should be consistent with existing SIC templates. Something that was too alien looking would probably not be allowed to be produced, so I opted for hinged chain swords (or perhaps power swords if I can find the right ones. I can look at the 'nid bits and see if there's something there I can work with... maybe mounting them in a more traditional Imperial housing would make them convincing. Have to see.

Then Whalemusic360 said...

whalemusic360 wrote:I think that if you were doing Chaos MWs, the nid bits would be ace, but they will look like mutations. Have you seen Paulson games Power Scythes? Those may work for ya.

*whew* Finally caught up.

I've checked out Paulson's web site (for multiple things, he's working on some 3-jet jump packs that are just incredible, perfect accompaniment for my Vanguard). The power scythes are very nice as-is, but they look much too thick to me to work in the construct that I've envisioned. I realize the thickness is probably necessary for both casting and gaming durability... but I don't think they'd look right hanging out away from a figure as part of a hinged arm. When I get to the point where I'm really doing the vanguard... I may buy a set just to play with, but looking at it in comparison the the marine it just looks too beefy for my purposes.

That being said, I don't have a good alternative at the moment... so everything is still in play.


@Heffling: Those are all excellent suggestions... I like the idea of counter-changing the camo pattern a lot (which has been suggested before) for a number of reasons, some of which have nothing to do with war gaming. I also like the idea of adding some freehand details... which is consistent with the rest of the model (which is very busy). I think I'm going to leave the helmet until last... when I finish all the rest we may find that the helmet is kind of a nice area of quiet in the middle of a very busy model & all that's needed are some extreme highlights to bring out it's shape. Or we may indeed find that the counter-camo or freehand is warranted to pull it all together. In any case, I appreciate your thoughts on the matter and will consider them carefully when the time comes.

Lennysmash wrote:Actually not really if you follow the logic that they are not fully inducted DW. Onced returned to their parent chapters the DW pad reverts to the squad designation side and the parent heraldry resumes it place on the left. It is only while on active duty that the DW pad is the primary heraldic device on the left. And as Git will be fielding these marines in their chapter livery technically it should be on the right....

......or that could all be wrong, either way what do you reckon, lol.

You're absolutely right Lenny, when using the US Army method.

Current Regiment is displayed on the left arm, previous assignments on the right.

So... Inquisition pads should be on the left?

Only if the marines are in DW livery ie black armour. Anything else it should really be on the right pauldron.

Got it... Thanks my friend. The mysteries of military heraldry elude me.

Hah, Sorry Git, I should have explained myself better.

Good news for anyone trading a marine for my Deatwatch / Tac squad. The Deathwatch conversion upgrade kit just came in. So PM me your addy (if I don't already have it) and I'll send you out a shoulder pad, very cool bolter and a head... you don't have to use the head... but that way I'm replacing your stock.

Did you decide on a head color? Black or Silver maybe? My guy has a hood and no helemt so I dont care really, lol.

Make the whole marine the color of it's chapter... it's just the right shoulder pad that'll be different. I only offer the bolter because it's a really cool one & is part of the upgrade kit... so it would be nice to be consistent.

Kk, well I dont need anything at this point then. I'll do something to the right pad.

You know, for heavy weapons where the shoulder pad is kind of integral to the weapon... just paint it black with perhaps some gold trim? That should get it close enough... no reason to break your back over a shoulder pad that isn't clearly visible in the first place.

Is there any set that come with a selection of Combi- weapons?

The plastic commander comes with a Combimelta and Combiplasma.

No need to send me anything Git the right pad on my guy isn't glued down and its a special weapon too. I'll paint the DW pad I have but if you want to change it you'll be able to.

Sounds great Len, I'm sure yours will be fine... but thanks!

Gitsplitta wrote:Make the whole marine the color of it's chapter... it's just the right shoulder pad that'll be different. I only offer the bolter because it's a really cool one & is part of the upgrade kit... so it would be nice to be consistent.

uh oh...

I already painted him black and did all the highlights...
anyways, he's almost done, someone borrowed my bleached bone and hasn't given it back, so i'll have to get it back from him before it's done...