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WTF according to that list, the Land Raider didn't go up all that much. Thse are conflicting reports. AGGGGH which one is correct?

Man, that darksphere list is brutal.

Can't believe they're raising the price of all the LotR plastics *again* right after they doubled the price of the damn things back in February!

Entire range of LotR boxes are going up from £13.50 to £15.

I am so glad I don't buy from this company anymore.

That darksphere list is different from the other one.

It might be because it's the list for the UK rather than the list for the US?

The Darksphere list is the one to look at. it lists their price AND RRP. The one i posted only lists maelstroms discount prices which is why it didnt seem so bad.

and it IS bad.....

Look at it this way for US buyers, with the state of the Euro right now it might be cheaper for us to start ordering from GWUK even with shipping.

For the record its about 1.25 EU to 1.00 USD right now.

Yeah seriously I might be doing that. Or I might just get all of my stuff from places like Horde o Bits. (Seriously, I just built a Leman Russ for 40 dollars)

It has to get a little worse before it becomes a viable option to order from EU though, shipping internationally still adds some additional cost.

Although wishing a drop of a major currency for the benefit of tabletop gaming would be awfully selfish.

But, a nice 1:1 exchange would be awesome!

Bluetau wrote:Look at it this way for US buyers, with the state of the Euro right now it might be cheaper for us to start ordering from GWUK even with shipping.

For the record its about 1.25 EU to 1.00 USD right now.

Ahem, we use the pound in the UK, might be better off checking the Dollar against that (not that its all that much better probably... :p)


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Bluetau wrote:It has to get a little worse before it becomes a viable option to order from EU though, shipping internationally still adds some additional cost.

Although wishing a drop of a major currency for the benefit of tabletop gaming would be awfully selfish.

But, a nice 1:1 exchange would be awesome!

ahh the Euros dead anyway, it just doesn't know it yet...

Absolutely my mistake.

Thats my great University education paying off...


I need sleep.


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Okay so to make up for my earlier miscalculation, its 1.56:1 Pound to US. So pretty much you arent saving any money ordering with the UK after shipping is factored in.

Bluetau wrote:It has to get a little worse before it becomes a viable option to order from EU though, shipping internationally still adds some additional cost.

Careful now. Do that too much and they'll just embargo your country.

winnertakesall wrote:To get back OT, has anyone posted this yet?

http://www.darksphere.co.uk/articles/?news=games-workshop-price-rises-announced

There is a lot of stuff on this list that doesn't get a price raise in the US...

Which still leaves mainland Europe in doubt about what will get raised and what doesn't. I wish someone could post a list of those.

Also, btw, a Land Raider and a Storm Raven have the same price down here, but apparently in the UK they have different prices.

DarthOvious wrote:I think they've been raising prices higher than inflation really. I'm not sure how you can add 20% onto one model during one price increase and then try to justify that as "inflation".

Grimtuff wrote:Where's a good facepalm when you need one? Here we go:

If you think GW's price rises are in line with inflation, then you're more deluded than the guys running GW.

Sidstyler wrote:Except it's not, which is well-established in each and every thread like this. "Inflation" doesn't account for 25%+ increases in price every single year.

H.B.M.C. wrote:Everybody's a comedian.

Wait... you're serious aren't you? Oh dear...

I do, quite strongly, suggest you understand what the term "inflation" means, it is very simple and basic economics.

Inflation is the year on year price change of items. In GWs case, this seems to be 20-25%, if peoples claims above are correct. It is STILL inflation, and the reason that a box of marines used to be available for pocket money.

If you believe government published inflation values are your guide line, then youre an idiot, those values are based on specific items that are commonly purchased, like bread.

Fictional wrote:I do, quite strongly, suggest you understand what the term "inflation" means, it is very simple and basic economics.

Really I think we should all thank you. I'm pretty sure that none of us had ever heard of inflation before you showed up to enlighten us.

If you think 'inflation' is the reason for GW's prices, then you may need a shower because clearly you're very sticky after soaking your entire body in the GW Kool-Aid.

I think he's referring to inflation solely in the context of Games-workshop.
Therefore, Game-workshops yearly inflation is "20-25%" - much more than non-GW inflation - and that apparently makes the yearly price increase OK, because it's GW's usual inflation.

I think that's what he's trying to say...

Cadorius wrote:

Backfire wrote:
GW does not raise prices "25% every year", lets not get silly. If you average this current price increase over their entire range, it's probably something like 5-6% rise, even though some individual items have got outrageous price hikes.

"5-6% annually" is exponential growth. At 7% you go from $50 to $400 in 30 years. 10 more years and it's up to $800, and so on. Doesn't sound so reasonable now, does it?

Of course it is exponential. But if it was really 25% annually, then we would have the prices go up 14-fold since 2000, it's pretty obvious this isn't the case...

One of my other former hobbies actually had price level increase as you described above: sailing. A new H-boat today costs as much in euros as it costed 25 years ago in Marks, ie. six-fold increase.

One has to maintain a positive outlook with rising prices: Remember that it always gets worse before it gets much worse.

Has Darksphere's site gone down ?

not here.

http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ is a handy tool in these situations too

Savage price increase...Imperial Sector £70......might pop into town and get one while still "cheap" lol

beezley1981 wrote:They're little plastic gray men, not food, not water...

Psh, are you kidding me? The cost of groceries for me every week come out to around $40 or $50 (I eat a fair amount).
Now instead of that, I could buy a box of Tactical Marines! Food doesn't last forever, but the models....they do. What seems like a fairer price in everyone's eyes?

Kind Regards,
Vladsimpaler

Vladsimpaler wrote:

beezley1981 wrote:They're little plastic gray men, not food, not water...

Psh, are you kidding me? The cost of groceries for me every week come out to around $40 or $50 (I eat a fair amount).
Now instead of that, I could buy a box of Tactical Marines! Food doesn't last forever, but the models....they do. What seems like a fairer price in everyone's eyes?

Kind Regards,
Vladsimpaler

Can't play 40k this week if I die of starvation because I bought another Razorback instead of groceries, yo.
Can't eat the minis if I get laid off.

Also can't play the game if no one else can afford to play it.

However if the game is cheaper, I can get more friends to play, afford more armies, and buy ramen to live off of for that week AND a new razorback instead of having to choose. It's sad that people think that being able to afford this hobby somehow makes you worthy of playing it, or even any good. Just because you're rich doesn't mean you're a good tactician. Or painter. Making the game more available widens your prospective customer base. No point in making a beer and pretzels game that's too expensive for me to be able to afford WITH beer and pretzels.

Model companies who sell models EXCLUSIVELY sell their kits for main battle tanks for far less than $60 each in the appropriate scale. Most kits I saw (on a quick google search) ranged in the $25-$40 range. That sounds appropriate to me. Especially when we're talking about kits that haven't changed their design or packaging in years. There's no sculptor to pay, no artist. Not even some intern with photoshop and a love of lensflare. Those guys at GW have long since been compensated. Now it's just pure profit that exceeds the cost of plastic and inflation.

Sorry, that's gouging.

Nagashek wrote:

Vladsimpaler wrote:

beezley1981 wrote:They're little plastic gray men, not food, not water...

Psh, are you kidding me? The cost of groceries for me every week come out to around $40 or $50 (I eat a fair amount).
Now instead of that, I could buy a box of Tactical Marines! Food doesn't last forever, but the models....they do. What seems like a fairer price in everyone's eyes?

Kind Regards,
Vladsimpaler

Can't play 40k this week if I die of starvation because I bought another Razorback instead of groceries, yo.
Can't eat the minis if I get laid off.

Also can't play the game if no one else can afford to play it.

However if the game is cheaper, I can get more friends to play, afford more armies, and buy ramen to live off of for that week AND a new razorback instead of having to choose. It's sad that people think that being able to afford this hobby somehow makes you worthy of playing it, or even any good. Just because you're rich doesn't mean you're a good tactician. Or painter. Making the game more available widens your perspective customer base. No point in making a beer and pretzels game that's too expensive for me to be able to afford WITH beer and pretzels.

Model companies who sell models EXCLUSIVELY sell their kits for main battle tanks for far less than $60 each in the appropriate scale. Most kits I saw (on a quick google search) ranged in the $25-$40 range. That sounds appropriate to me. Especially when we're talking about kits that haven't changed their design or packaging in years. There's no sculptor to pay, no artist. Not even some intern with photoshop and a love of lensflare. Those guys at GW have long since been compensated. Now it's just pure profit that exceeds the cost of plastic and inflation.

Sorry, that's gouging.

Bravo sir, well said...

Nagashek wrote:

Vladsimpaler wrote:

beezley1981 wrote:They're little plastic gray men, not food, not water...

Psh, are you kidding me? The cost of groceries for me every week come out to around $40 or $50 (I eat a fair amount).
Now instead of that, I could buy a box of Tactical Marines! Food doesn't last forever, but the models....they do. What seems like a fairer price in everyone's eyes?

Kind Regards,
Vladsimpaler

Can't play 40k this week if I die of starvation because I bought another Razorback instead of groceries, yo.
Can't eat the minis if I get laid off.

Also can't play the game if no one else can afford to play it.

However if the game is cheaper, I can get more friends to play, afford more armies, and buy ramen to live off of for that week AND a new razorback instead of having to choose. It's sad that people think that being able to afford this hobby somehow makes you worthy of playing it, or even any good. Just because you're rich doesn't mean you're a good tactician. Or painter. Making the game more available widens your prospective customer base. No point in making a beer and pretzels game that's too expensive for me to be able to afford WITH beer and pretzels.

Model companies who sell models EXCLUSIVELY sell their kits for main battle tanks for far less than $60 each in the appropriate scale. Most kits I saw (on a quick google search) ranged in the $25-$40 range. That sounds appropriate to me. Especially when we're talking about kits that haven't changed their design or packaging in years. There's no sculptor to pay, no artist. Not even some intern with photoshop and a love of lensflare. Those guys at GW have long since been compensated. Now it's just pure profit that exceeds the cost of plastic and inflation.

Sorry, that's gouging.

QFT

Nagashek wrote:

Vladsimpaler wrote:

beezley1981 wrote:They're little plastic gray men, not food, not water...

Psh, are you kidding me? The cost of groceries for me every week come out to around $40 or $50 (I eat a fair amount).
Now instead of that, I could buy a box of Tactical Marines! Food doesn't last forever, but the models....they do. What seems like a fairer price in everyone's eyes?

Kind Regards,
Vladsimpaler

Can't play 40k this week if I die of starvation because I bought another Razorback instead of groceries, yo.
Can't eat the minis if I get laid off.

Also can't play the game if no one else can afford to play it.

However if the game is cheaper, I can get more friends to play, afford more armies, and buy ramen to live off of for that week AND a new razorback instead of having to choose. It's sad that people think that being able to afford this hobby somehow makes you worthy of playing it, or even any good. Just because you're rich doesn't mean you're a good tactician. Or painter. Making the game more available widens your prospective customer base. No point in making a beer and pretzels game that's too expensive for me to be able to afford WITH beer and pretzels.

Model companies who sell models EXCLUSIVELY sell their kits for main battle tanks for far less than $60 each in the appropriate scale. Most kits I saw (on a quick google search) ranged in the $25-$40 range. That sounds appropriate to me. Especially when we're talking about kits that haven't changed their design or packaging in years. There's no sculptor to pay, no artist. Not even some intern with photoshop and a love of lensflare. Those guys at GW have long since been compensated. Now it's just pure profit that exceeds the cost of plastic and inflation.

Sorry, that's gouging.

Aaaand the award for someone who totally missed the point of my comment goes to...
That being said, my comment is making fun of people who'd rather buy models than go hang out with friends

Kind Regards,
Vladsimpaler

Unless you go buy groceries with your friends, I don't see how your comment really referenced to going out with friends, whilst gaming is in itself a largely social hobby.



Ultimately for me, there's only so much I'm willing to pay for Warhammer. Food is both essential and relatively cheap, Warhammer is neither.

Just Dave wrote:Unless you go buy groceries with your friends, I don't see how your comment really referenced to going out with friends, whilst gaming is in itself a largely social hobby.



Ultimately for me, there's only so much I'm willing to pay for Warhammer. Food is both essential and relatively cheap, Warhammer is neither.

You guys are overthinking it way too much. Strong comment backfire.

Kind Regards,
Vladsimpaler

So thats why my flgs hoarded 5 of each battle force and black reach box set....

No point in making a beer and pretzels game that's too expensive for me to be able to afford WITH beer and pretzels.

Very nice


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reds8n wrote:http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/article.jsp?aId=16600002a

This month we will be increasing the price of some of our products. This price change will take effect from May 28th

At time of writing this has 100 "likes" on Facebook.

When I click on the link now it takes me to the main page of the GW site and not to the announcement like it did previously.

Is the announcement gone or what?

Is that the one from last year?

pretre wrote:Is that the one from last year?

?

It's the link posted on page 6 of this thread.

When it was first posted it directed to the announcement, but now I get GW's main page, and can't find the announcement anywhere anymore.

Not saying the price raise is not happening or whatever, but why would they take the announcement away?