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Nagashek wrote:
The cost of raising a child to the age of 18 is in excess of $1 million (American).

There is no way this is true. You are then saying it costs over $55,000 per year to raise a child.
I can tell you, my wife and I do not make all that much more than this figure after taxes, and we own a home, have 2 car payments, hobbies, and a young child, and we still have some money left over to save at the end of the month.
Please explain where you get this $1,000,000 figure.

According to this site it's $124,000 to $249,000 from 0-17 in the US, based on 2001 numbers

To get back OT, has anyone posted this yet?

http://www.darksphere.co.uk/articles/?news=games-workshop-price-rises-announced

winnertakesall wrote:To get back OT, has anyone posted this yet?

http://www.darksphere.co.uk/articles/?news=games-workshop-price-rises-announced

That has to be some kind of joke? A lot of those are 25% increases..

£80 for a battle force?! Is this the same percentage increase that other territories have seen?

German retailers today got an extended list of price raises, now with 393 products and including the Land Raiders (+7€).The three 40k expansion books (City of Death etc) are raised from 22.75€ to 29€ (+27%), all Eldar Elite boxes by 5€ .

winnertakesall wrote:To get back OT, has anyone posted this yet?

http://www.darksphere.co.uk/articles/?news=games-workshop-price-rises-announced

So THATS the real prices.. ok, i take it all back. Im outraged... this is by far the biggest kick GW have given us.

but then there is SO much quality competition out there to discover im not ALL that bothered game wise... Ill still stay invested in the fluff as its awesome but i may give 6th a miss, especially if it will force me to change the composition of my army....

Hello Infinity/DZC

DarthOvious wrote:No offense, but 30 years ago we Brits had just barely entered the decimal system (by 2 years) currency wise. Before that we were paying a half-penny for a packet of sweets. Now at the local sweet shop I'm looking at about £1 for a bag and I have a feeling they are smaller bags but I don't really know that since I wasn't even born at that point.

You're thinking of 40 years ago. I was born at that point.

Ian Sturrock wrote:

DarthOvious wrote:No offense, but 30 years ago we Brits had just barely entered the decimal system (by 2 years) currency wise. Before that we were paying a half-penny for a packet of sweets. Now at the local sweet shop I'm looking at about £1 for a bag and I have a feeling they are smaller bags but I don't really know that since I wasn't even born at that point.

You're thinking of 40 years ago. I was born at that point.

I was born just over 30 years ago and i remember half penny sweets... (not a pack though) on topic, would anyone care to work out the savings (if any) on buying a space marine battleforce now? The individual contents havent gone up by 33% so the saving must be minute now....

An independent retailor told me they were going up between 10-15% but thats not been confirmed by gw.

This has to be a joke:
40K BATTLEFIELD ACCESSORIES:
old price £7.20 new price £12.00

Up by 67%??!!! .... SERIOUSLY?!

DiabolicAl wrote:

Ian Sturrock wrote:

DarthOvious wrote:No offense, but 30 years ago we Brits had just barely entered the decimal system (by 2 years) currency wise. Before that we were paying a half-penny for a packet of sweets. Now at the local sweet shop I'm looking at about £1 for a bag and I have a feeling they are smaller bags but I don't really know that since I wasn't even born at that point.

You're thinking of 40 years ago. I was born at that point.

I was born just over 30 years ago and i remember half penny sweets... (not a pack though) on topic, would anyone care to work out the savings (if any) on buying a space marine battleforce now? The individual contents havent gone up by 33% so the saving must be minute now....

Rhino - £22.50
Tac Squad - Not listed. I think someone said it was going to be £30
Combat Squad - £15.50 (no change as far as I can see)
Assault Squad - £20.50 (no change as far as I can see)
Scout Squad - £15.50 (no change as far as I can see)

Total = £104. Still a saving of £24. If the tacticals remain the same then the total would be £97 and a saving of £17.

CITADEL REALM OF BATTLE GAMEBOARD:
was £155.00 now £175.00, up 13%!

WTF????!?!! I'd rather just pay the extra to get a Titan from FW... £175?!! for some plastic tiles?!! SCREW THAT! I was so tempted to pick up a ROB board.... not now...

I more miffed by the Codices going up by 25%...

anybody who buys GW movement trays now is a fool A FOOL I TELL YOU!!

make your own out of plasticard for a fraction of the cost....

DarthOvious wrote:Tac Squad - Not listed. I think someone said it was going to be £30

The Tactical Squad isn't listed because it didn't change. The claims that it would be £30 were totally unfounded speculation. Generally speaking, infantry prices didn't change very much. Most of the changes here apply instead to vehicle kits.

Fetterkey wrote:

DarthOvious wrote:Tac Squad - Not listed. I think someone said it was going to be £30

The Tactical Squad isn't listed because it didn't change. The claims that it would be £30 were totally unfounded speculation. Generally speaking, infantry prices didn't change very much. Most of the changes here apply instead to vehicle kits.

Thanks,

So that means, you will save £17 from the Battlebox instead of buying separately. I think they're trying their best to bring these margins down. You used to get more of a discount than that when buying the boxes.In fact, the only thing that went up separately was the Rhino and that was only by £2.

So decided to look at and compare the stormraven prices.

Current:
$66 US
$79.50 CAN

New:
$82.50 US
(Guessing) $96 CAN

Are you F'n serious?? I make good money and get this junk at discount and this is getting stupid.

Check this out this. SUMMER SALE just in time for the price hike.

http://store.privateerpress.com/sale.aspx

Well at least one company doesnt have its head up its ass

Tigerone wrote:Cost of LR in 2000: $50.00. Still using the same model 12 years later cost per year $4.166 the same model can be used for as long as you wish to play. Cost of iphone $500 or so depends on contract. It may last 2 years......You do the math. Tank of gas this morning was close to $80 and it will be gone by next week. Model bought yesterday "can" last a lifetime........Its just not that expensive.

Comparing plastic soldier to iphones...

Its not meant to be an insult in anyway but... your priority is abit obvious xD

LunaHound wrote:

Tigerone wrote:Cost of LR in 2000: $50.00. Still using the same model 12 years later cost per year $4.166 the same model can be used for as long as you wish to play. Cost of iphone $500 or so depends on contract. It may last 2 years......You do the math. Tank of gas this morning was close to $80 and it will be gone by next week. Model bought yesterday "can" last a lifetime........Its just not that expensive.

Comparing plastic soldier to iphones...

Its not meant to be an insult in anyway but... your priority is abit obvious xD

The idea is that they're both items we don't necessarily need, but your models will last forever as opposed to technology that through planned and perceived obsolescence will not.

Brother SRM wrote:
The idea is that they're both items we don't necessarily need, but your models will last forever as opposed to technology that through planned and perceived obsolescence will not.

Except GW has its own planned and perceived obsolescence on models and units. Some great ones one edition become not so much, while others rise to priority.

Plasma in 4th and melta in 5th are some examples. Among others. LR use to be not so good. Under 5th their great. 6th remains to be seen.

Ravenous D wrote:So decided to look at and compare the stormraven prices.

Current:
$66 US
$79.50 CAN

New:
$82.50 US
(Guessing) $96 CAN

Are you F'n serious?? I make good money and get this junk at discount and this is getting stupid.

When did the storm raven model come out? Did it get released after the last "adjustment" or just before? If it's after, I can't fathom the reasoning behind such a big jump in one go. I'd expect that GW would release a model at what they consider a "fair" MSRP (regardless of whether or not I agree with the price) instead of raising it so significantly so quickly after coming out with it.

Brother SRM wrote:
The idea is that they're both items we don't necessarily need, but your models will last forever as opposed to technology that through planned and perceived obsolescence will not.

The difference of couse being that a phone contains something that we do need on a daily basis (98% of us at least) - a phone. On top of that it also plays sends emails, web browses, contains a backup of my music library etc. etc. etc all things that I'd wager a large percentage of people also 'need' on a level more than merely 'want'. You could also use it for pretty much as long as you like. Newer models get released sure, but no one is forced to upgrade. Hell, I work with people carrying Nokia bricks around and they work just fine.

Models are uni-functional (dual-functional if you take in to account painting-gaming) andy don't really last forever as new versions get released, gaming companies and model companies go under, models either suck or rule depending on the current Codex and GW (from what I've read on these boards) generally frown upon using old models that have since been redone. They are a hobby and not in any sense "needed". Wanted, yes. Not a good comparison IMO.

ICleadpeople wrote:Check this out this. SUMMER SALE just in time for the price hike.

http://store.privateerpress.com/sale.aspx

Yeah, they did that for last years price increase too and it's fraking hilarious/genius!

Aduro wrote:

ICleadpeople wrote:Check this out this. SUMMER SALE just in time for the price hike.

http://store.privateerpress.com/sale.aspx

Yeah, they did that for last years price increase too and it's fraking hilarious/genius!

Well, it's pretty easy to do when GW's price rises become so regular that they can help remind you to change the batteries in your smoke alarms!

They're little plastic gray men, not food, not water...

Groundh0g wrote:

Brother SRM wrote:
The idea is that they're both items we don't necessarily need, but your models will last forever as opposed to technology that through planned and perceived obsolescence will not.

The difference of couse being that a phone contains something that we do need on a daily basis (98% of us at least) - a phone. On top of that it also plays sends emails, web browses, contains a backup of my music library etc. etc. etc all things that I'd wager a large percentage of people also 'need' on a level more than merely 'want'.

Bingo, I just didnt want to blatantly point out people's social preference/ priority Brother SRM.
(not that I have the right to judge, but there is a difference in priority as you can see )

But surely kite surfing, skydiving, iphones and grey plastic soldiers are the same? I mean they're all considered a hobby or a part of one thus all equal based on that fact alone.

Like how apples are fruit and so are oranges.

I just received a Email from The Warstore confirming the price hikes. I am not pleased at all.

The GW site still has nothing about the hike, as they useally do. But have the pre orders for the Fliers.