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I actually thought the restic casts were better than the metal ones which look rushed obviously to make the shipping deadline.

I have yet to clean or paint any of the metal minis prefering to stick with the restic which is saying something given the extra cleaning work involved in cleaning restic.

Anyway hopefully that was a one off and won't happen again.

Yeah all these aliens fighting in back alleys of human worlds is confusing to me, too.

Considering all of this fluff is so far just quotes in Kickstarter updates, I'm fairly certain that if enough people point out some of the sillier inconsistencies they'll go back and rewrite them before the work hits print in the rules.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Yeah all these aliens fighting in back alleys of human worlds is confusing to me, too.

From what I gather, it's more the complete list of who "might" be found. We already have Orx, Teratons, Judwan, and Humans themselves as models who would be the more likely line-ups at underground fights in the middle of Corp territory. Many of these aliens would be showing up on the fringes, or even at non-corp worlds.

There is a lot of story telling potential here. It'd be fun to have rings where humans weren't even allowed, or Orx or Forge Fathers or whoever because the planet you're playing refuses their admittance.

Earth Dragon wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Yeah all these aliens fighting in back alleys of human worlds is confusing to me, too.

From what I gather, it's more the complete list of who "might" be found. We already have Orx, Teratons, Judwan, and Humans themselves as models who would be the more likely line-ups at underground fights in the middle of Corp territory. Many of these aliens would be showing up on the fringes, or even at non-corp worlds.

There is a lot of story telling potential here. It'd be fun to have rings where humans weren't even allowed, or Orx or Forge Fathers or whoever because the planet you're playing refuses their admittance.

Possibly. But none of those teams visually shout "this is gritty illegal-stuff" in the way Convicts and Plague and the odd Vampire-Sponsor do.

You can put anything in there from DBO (and stuff like Veer-Myn are arguably a better fit than some DBX stuff), but the distinct illegal-underground-theme is light on many of the add-on themes (MvPs are better, but there still isn't a useful and robust MvP rules-set in DBO, and I don't expect one here either. Those are largely "for painting").

NTRabbit wrote:
Considering all of this fluff is so far just quotes in Kickstarter updates, I'm fairly certain that if enough people point out some of the sillier inconsistencies they'll go back and rewrite them before the work hits print in the rules.

Yeah exactly, I'm hopig it all gets nicely refined like this. Prefereably for a deluxe hardcover rbook containing all season rules plus bonus fluff and stuff like the deadzone book >:-)

The next MVP is the Refbot I was talking about, so this must be the next team. Looks like those big, dumb, ugly ogres are getting a team.

And all Frenzies are gone.

I (and probably many others) pledged Frenzy to keep our options open until the end.
I expect that there'll be some backsliding as people drop their frenzies on last few days for rampage + options.

I expect quite a few of them to drop, but it was a smart move by Mantic... basically creating a bit of a rush in the middle rather than the end.

I'm not a fan of those kinds of things personally (the mine cart pledges with Shadows of Brimstone come to mind) though...

Even if they do drop, there was lots of demand for the pledge level, won't take long for someone to snap them up.

Amazed that Rampage EB's are still up for grabs.

 scarletsquig wrote:
Even if they do drop, there was lots of demand for the pledge level, won't take long for someone to snap them up.

How? Didn't Mantic say you couldn't pledge for Frenzy after today?

They'll leave the 700 available if someone drops it someone else can pick it up they won't add anymore but I doubt they will monitor every drop out and reduce the level accordingly.

Should be easy enough to pick up Frenzy pledge levels on the last day as people have to decide what level they want.

Frenzy is closing today, yes, but if anyone drops their Frenzy pledge, someone else will be able to grab it.

Same thing as Mars Attacks and the BotB level.

Sure, people may drop their frenzy pledges, but now we're down to the last week. In a few days we'll be headed for the end-rush. Mars attacks still had another week left at this point I think. Backsliding should get overrun by the 48 hour reminder imo.

For what its worth, to those worrying about the KS fluff for these races, I wouldn't worry. The editor on the project (and most of Mantic's going forward) is an incredibly passionate and focused guy who, having worked for other companies with deep lore pools to negotiate, knows how to make a cohesive universe.

Its in good hands, as he's already stopped me from mucking up too much. ;-)

Still slipped Space Gypsies into canon though.... hehehe..

*cough*

Good to hear, hopefully by the time Warpath makes it's kickstarter debut we'll have a nicely fleshed out world to enjoy.

On the comment someone made about how they expected Xtreme to be playing mainly on underground criminal gang tropes and whatnot... yes, i agree that this would be good. We at least need some 80s-style punk gangs all dressed in neon polyester and with mirror sunglasses.

One tidbit Hewitt dropped on the BoW Crystallins video was interesting tho - in the co-prosperity sphere, you need a license to be an alien. So by definition almost all alien races are illegal.

Is it just me, or does Mantic pick less then optimal times to have loan Stretch Goals? Only a season 5 book in site? Come on Mantic. You gotta give people something to really look forward to. Printed media is traditionally at the low end of which stretches make people excited for the project.

Not gonna hold my breath that this thing moves forward quickly tonight.

I like printed media.

Joyboozer wrote:
I like printed media.

I love the Season Books, but as far as a "exciting stretch"......

It's an expensive option, I agree as a stretch goal it sucks, but it does require funding.

I agree with that. But when they showed the Short Stories, they had other stretches showing beyond it. I think it's not the smartest play to have it sitting by itself when Mantic could have showed the 1st Season 6 team, keeper models, more sponsors, or any number of other things as a goal beyond the book.

Letting frenzy pledges now they are getting ***** is gonna help retain them. I feel they are gonna lose a few due to uncertainty at least from the western states and Oceanic countries during this evening.

Joyboozer wrote:
It's an expensive option, I agree as a stretch goal it sucks, but it does require funding.

Wait, 20 grand and it's only free for frenzy! Is that just for print or are they including design? I'm guessing under 20 sheets( 100 pages 4 up, average collator limit ), that's very expensive for a print run of that size.

Yeah, and I was giving Mantic credit earlier in the campaign for seemingly more upfront and realistic stretch goals........

Digital free for all. Print only provided for Frenzy


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And yes.....the campaign is starting to move backwards. Would have been mitigated if they just showed a little something more. You'd think Mantic would be super pro at KS projects at this point 85% vet moves sprinkled with 15% rookie mistakes.

Losing 2 backers a few hours into the Kicktraq defined "day" doesn't exactly constitute going backwards.

Are people expecting any surprise fireworks at the end? Or do we think we have it all figured by now?

We know there'll be 4 more teams for Season 6, another giant (the Marauder Hulk), probably a couple more MVPs, and if the campaign runs as normal, probably a limited hardback. Is that about it?

How about solo play cards

 lord_blackfang wrote:
How about solo play cards

I would find a pack of Deadzone cards pretty exciting if they reversed course on that.

But they won't. Just had it confirmed (again) on the comments that they won't be changing their minds on this.

I would just draw comfort from the fact they have created a lot more ideas for factions in Deadzone.

If and When Deadzone: Infestation comes to fruition, they have lots to pool from. I'm excited the the Sphyr are being established as their own thing!!

Yeah, the more races they establish into the Warpath universe, the better. It seems that generally less people who play Mantic's games are sticklers for using zomg official models for everything, and now that the sphyr are a thing that you can get a reasonable number of models for at a time... could easily convert them into your own fighting force, and just use the closest Warpath or Deadzone list as you can find. For warpath, allies make it even easier, though the odd merc might help in deadzone.

Who knows if WP 3.0 has allies in the future, but I'm pretty sure both previous versions of it did.

If I get a sphyr team, maybe I'll use them under marauder stats, commandos seem a fair fit. Maybe.