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Tons.....and tons...and tons of marines.

Every now and then, there's like 1 marine player vs all non-marines, and boy those tournaments are something else!

Blackmoor wrote: So that is 6 out if 8 armies being MEQs.

My condolences.

On second thought it may actually be more fun than facing non stop T6 critters for 3 months straight (sigh)

Locally, there are no Godzilla lists. But, there is a reasonable number of different armies. It's nice to not have to face of against red marines, black marines or blue marines. On our given game day, I can typically get in a game against, Chaos, Eldar, Necron, Marine, Demonhunter, Dark Angel, Blood Angel, Tau or Ork. It's nice to get some different games in.

I went to an RTT outside of my local area last weekend and was suprised to see it's make up. Eldar were the majority and not a single Chaos army. Out of 4 Eldar players, 3 were fielding Eldrad and an Avatar. It was interesting to see what others outside my area were playing.

I have been saying eldar are the new Space Marine for quite some time now. At the Necro this year there were more eldar than any other single race.

- G

Here are the armies I faced in my last two RTTs:

Necron x3
Chaos
IG
Tyranids

- G

I have seen an increase of Necons in the past year or so.

You still need to tool up to beat MEQs, but with the new Chaos codex I think you will start to see less of them.

I think you also need to tool up to fight Eldar. They are bigger threats and a nastier codex than Space Marines, and you should face at least face one of them in most RTTs.

Blackmoor wrote:I think you also need to tool up to fight Eldar. They are bigger threats and a nastier codex than Space Marines, and you should face at least face one of them in most RTTs.

Especially in the later rounds. The last tournament I went to had over 75% MeQ (mostly Chaos), but the top three places went to Eldar and Dark Eldar.

If you run a good balanced army, and are a good general; you can do well against any army.

Until you face a GW scenario or escalation.

Then it's back to a dice toss to determine the winner.

Woo!

Stelek wrote:If you run a good balanced army, and are a good general; you can do well against any army.

Until you face a GW scenario or escalation.

Then it's back to a dice toss to determine the winner.

Woo!

That's funny.

I am 4-2 over my last 2 RTTs, Both of my losses have been the "Scouting Mission" scenario where you start with only your 2 compulsory troop choices on the board.

Walking Havocs and infantry on the board is not that much fun when you can't get into good cover, have bad lines of sight, are hanging out on the board edge (on the last game both my havocs ran off from shooting even with IoCG), and don't get to shoot until turn 3 or 4.

My last 2 RTT opponents

generic eldar (major loss)
drop pod marines (major win)
armored company (minor win)
godzilla (major loss)
raven guard (major loss)
daemon hunters (slaughter)

That's some variety, but the first place finisher in both RTTs was the same Black Templar player. So I'm still tooling to beat marines.

So Blackmoor, you lost the dice off then?

;p

the old RTT missions are slowed and quite frankly outdated. Not to mention very boring. Probably most of us have played those same missions since 2004/2003 and would like a welcome change of mission or even rulebook stuff.

Stelek wrote:So Blackmoor, you lost the dice off then?

;p

Not quite, but I had a bad army build for that mission.

I am trying some pre-heresy ideas, and I am trying to play without Oblits. Mobile heavy weapons are very important, and besides oblits, chaos really has poor options.

That mission screws people who take Havocs and Devastators, and rewards mech armies.

I can make the argument that any mission that cripples an army is not a fair mission. (For another example: the mission "This is heavy Doc" is a shooting army’s paradise).

efarrer wrote:
I love sisters, but they are one of the weakest armies in the game by my perception. Just about any army with an equal level player will beat the sisters. Basically Sisters<Any other army. You play them for a challlenge, not for thier strength. If you disagree with thier placement in the bottom tier, tell me what is worse than them.

I hate it when people say this, I cant even finish reading this thread first.

http://www.adepticon.org/modules.php?name=Sections&op=viewarticle&artid=54

...6th out of over 100, and my army wasnt even fully painted. This was no fluke since I frequently wreck shop with them. Most sisters rely on faith and dump tons of points into useless seraphim though, hence, crappy army.

LOTS of armies are worse.

Read the missions I posted in the Mind Games thread under 'looking for a game', Blackmoor. I wanted more feedback but only Lemartes provided any. Got lots of local feedback that was positive from actual players, but I'm open to more.

I gave our local shop the missions from this year's Baltimore GT. While I didn't think they were perfect, they are a lot better and competitive to play than the old RTT missions. He's going to adapt the GT missions for a tourney in a couple months. If I understand it correctly, the Baltimore GT missions were heavily influenced by Adepticon's missions.

I believe the missions really enhanced the enjoyment of each game.