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George Spiggott wrote:This does seem very biased towards the Marines (as usual) I can't help but think that Orks will be seeing their 'stock drop' as new players will play the starter set, and based upon their performance verses the Marines will drop the Orks and play Space Marines (as usual).

Anybody got any ideas of the number of Orks in the box? They've got a lot of points to make up against that Terminator Squad and Dreadnought.

Likely it'll be just like BfM. The models will be used in a variety of scenarios to help beginners learn the rules, and then to give them a start on their armies. They won't be start up armies to fight each other with, as then the two forces in the box would be equal points.

I'm all for complaining about GW, but it's best to stick to their actual screw ups and not make assumptions so you get to complain about it.

temprus wrote:In the USA, it is normally cheaper/better/easier to "pulp"/"destroy" unsold books/product than sell it at sub-prime discounts or to dump it at cheap wholesalers because of the way accounting write offs work here. Giving them away for free normally can't be written off (at least not at the level we would probably be talking about in this case).

Where are you getting that from? And are you talking from a tax or financial accounting perspective? Either way write-offs allow for the same expense as pulping... it's all just a hit to inventory. Giving books away potentially carries tax complications, but if done properly you still get to make the claim.

Pulping and crushing has everything to do with the costs of distribution and retail (which besides overhead and creative work are the bulk of costs, production itself is nearly irrelevant) being greater than the discounted sale price. That is, shipping the old boxsets, receiving them in store, recording that whole process, advertising the discounted sale of the old sets and recording the sales is more expensive than the discounted price. Especially when the sale of old boxes will be competing with the sales of box sets of marines, stealers and gaunts still in production.

Of course, there's inventory that's in store when it becomes obselete. Old metal stuff replaced by newer plastic sets, that's already incurred the costs of distribution and storage... that GW stores do flog off in auctions and raffles.

What was the name of the box set before macragge, I've been looking for it on ebay. I finnaly found one that was unopened and had some limmited edition force commander, but I lost with like 30 secs left.

The third edition boxed set (and the 2nd edition set for that matter) didn't have any official name.

Ian, please try to refrain from dragging up a thread that is over a month old, especially when dealing with a news thread.