Confirmed 40K 5th Edition Box contents and September release date

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**adamsouza**

From BOLS:

According to Games Workshop USA Sales Representative Mark Koscielniak, the new Warhammer 40k 5th Edition Starter Boxed Set will include a “Crap-Ton of miniatures”.

The new boxed starter, due out in September of this year, will include the popular “mini-rulebook”, dice, measuring sticks and the proverbial French “Crap-Ton” of miniatures including:
1– Space Marine Commander (full sprue)
1– Space Marine Tactical Squad
1– Space Marine Terminator Squad
1– Space Marine Dreadnought

AND THAT’S NOT ALL!
The set will ALSO include:

1– Ork Warboss
2– Ork Boyz Mobs
1– Ork Nob Mob
3– Death Koptas

The retail price on this tremendous deal will be a ridiculously low $59.99! A quick analysis of the retail value of this set is valued at a cool $262 bucks, and that’s not even counting the retail value of the 3 Death Koptas, the “mini-rulebook”, or the dice!
The new 5th Edition starter will be called “Battle for Black Reach”.
The regular hard cover 5th Edition rulebook is due out in July, with a retail price of $49.99.
Even with this great value, Games Workshop Inc. has instructed their retailers to warn consumers that in order to off-set this incredible value,GW is forced to break the promise of not raising any prices for 5 full years. As a result, all of the GW starters (40k, Fantasy and Lord of the Rings) will now be sold at $59.99, rather than the former $49.99.
Even so, the values of these starters are astounding, as entire armies can be built for the cost of a couple of starters.
Be sure to place your pre-orders early so that you don’t miss out on this incredible deal

Does anyone remember how many people cried BS when I said August 2008 ?
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/205581.page

**Breotan**

I'm assuming these are the one-piece guys that currently occupy the 40k 4th Ed Box?

**Polonius**

I don't care what quality they are, if the fifth ed rules rumours are even close and this is the starter box... I'd get used to nothing but Orks for a few years.

**Dice Monkey**

Even with this great value, Games Workshop Inc. has instructed their retailers to warn consumers that in order to off-set this incredible value,GW is forced to break the promise of not raising any prices for 5 full years .

When did they promise no price rises? I thought they just renamed them adjustments.

**Polonius**

I think the idea was to keep the starter boxes at a low price for a long time. If you notice, about four years ago GW started pricing a few things slightly lower to appeal to new hobbyists. The BfM was a good start, followed by the $90 battalion box and the lovely Skull Pass and Mines of Moria. I think the promise was to larger retailers and the like, stating essentially that you could get a "game in a box" for $50.

**Hordini**

If that's true, that is a sweet, sweet deal. And if the 5th edition rules are good, there's a significant chance I'll be buying this.

I still want to pick up a Battle for Skull Pass set at some point. Any idea when the price hike goes into effect?

**usernamesareannoying**

wow... how big is this fraking box going to be?!?!

**two_heads_talking**

big enough to stuff all the models and goodies inside it. (grin)

**Grobrotz**

Baah, doesnt seem to me that Orcs will have a chance in winning games in this configuration.
But it can not be that emperrors finest got crumped by puny greenskins.

**adamsouza**

It has nothing to do with a winning configuration as is.

It has everything to do with a cheap way to 180 Boyz and 15 DeffKoptas

They NEVER give you a great army in the starting box. That way your enticed to buy more models.

It looks like I'm in for 5 BFBRs. Not only will it give me the models I want for my Ork Horde, but it wll give me enough marines for a new SM army.

**Janthkin**

It looks like I'm in for 5 BFBRs. Not only will it give me the models I want for my Ork Horde, but it wll give me enough marines for a new SM army.

Don't start a SM army. Find someone who is, split the cost of the boxes, and sell the 3 "bonus" rulebooks. You should end up with your orks (plus 1 rulebook) for ~$120, which is an incredible deal.

**Kid_Kyoto**

"the new Warhammer 40k 5th Edition Starter Boxed Set will include a “Crap-Ton of miniatures”. "

Is that a metric crap-ton or English crap-ton?

**Ozymandias**

He said, "proverbial French Crap-ton" so RAW says metric.

So as not to derail this thread, we should start a thread in YMDC.

Ozymandias, King of Kings

**JohnHwangDD**

Around $1 per model? Not bad, tho I doubt we're getting multi-pose SM and Termies.

**Teek**

And with that, Ozymandias wins the thread.

Is anybody else as twitterpated about the prospect of a plastic warboss? Even if it turns out a 1 or 2 piece, "this is how he shall be posed" sprue, think of all the hacking one could do. I'm also really interested in how they do plastic Deff Koptas, assuming it will be basically identical to the current metal model, just pieced onto a plastic sprue? Either way, delicious bits there.

Earlier rumors included plastic grots. It's a bit sad they're not showing up now, unless this "plastic Nob mob" is a miscommunication...

I have until September to find a marine player or two willing to split some boxes up...

**Alpharius**

If true, this is an amazing deal!

I can't quite believe all the miniatures in it...

Though exactly how many models are in a marine squad and an Ork mob?

**Rbb**

I wonder how much Battlewagon Bitz will be selling the individual squads for? You can get the bfm marines for around $15 American.

**adamsouza**

Janthkin wrote:
It looks like I'm in for 5 BFBRs. Not only will it give me the models I want for my Ork Horde, but it wll give me enough marines for a new SM army.

Don't start a SM army. Find someone who is, split the cost of the boxes, and sell the 3 "bonus" rulebooks. You should end up with your orks (plus 1 rulebook) for ~$120, which is an incredible deal.

Meh, tried that with BFM and BFSP. Too much work trying to find someone who isn't an idiot to work with.

I'd just be happier with the mountain of marines.

Besides that, I don't want to break with tradition.
I had a RT marine force, a 2nd Ed Blood Angels Army, a 3rd edition Blood Angels, and a 4th Ed Vanilla Marines who happened to be painted something like Blood Angels army. I might as well make a 5th go at it

**Hellfury**

adamsouza wrote:It has nothing to do with a winning configuration as is.

It has everything to do with a cheap way to 180 Boyz and 15 DeffKoptas

I hate to admit this, I really do, but... QFT

Something like that could make me really get into making an ork army.

**JohnHwangDD**

Alpharius wrote:If true, this is an amazing deal!

I can't quite believe all the miniatures in it...

Though exactly how many models are in a marine squad and an Ork mob?

I'd guess:

1 SM Commander
10 SM Tacticals
5 SM Termies
1 SM Dread

1 Ork Warboss
10 Ork Boyz (x2)
10 Ork Nobs
3 Ork Deffkoptas

17 SM vs 34 Orks = 51 models total.

**H.B.M.C.**

If this becomes the only place where you can get Deffkoptas I'm going to have to call shenanigans.

BYE

**Stelek**

And the wait begins...will 5th edition be released 60 days before the first GW GT? Will we be unsure what rules set we're using till 3 days before the GT? Will another GT season be screwed up with mixing rules between events?

I look forward to Dave Taylor's answers.

**temprus**

Stelek wrote:And the wait begins...will 5th edition be released 60 days before the first GW GT? Will we be unsure what rules set we're using till 3 days before the GT? Will another GT season be screwed up with mixing rules between events?

I look forward to Dave Taylor's answers.

5th Ed is supposedly coming out by the beginning of July, almost exactly 60 days before the US Las Vegas GT. The fact that they mention a rule for edition changes in the 2008 US packet was a dead giveaway that one was coming.

Also explains why they moved the two US summer GTs into fall.

**Polonius**

H.B.M.C. wrote:If this becomes the only place where you can get Deffkoptas I'm going to have to call shenanigans.

BYE

Spider Riders got their first model in the BfsP, and were made available pretty quickly in a seperate kit.

I'd imagine these death coptas will be quite simple, probobly smaller then the metal ones as well. Still, even if it's the smallest amount possible, it'll be a great day for Orks.

**Deadshane1**

cant wait

**DarthIbis**

H.B.M.C. wrote:If this becomes the only place where you can get Deffkoptas I'm going to have to call shenanigans.

I heard these were "new" plastic Deffkoptas. Maybe they'll have a new box set as well.
There is supposed to be other new ork stuff coming as well.

**Corpsman_of_Krieg**

You know, I don't care that this starter box will give me a bunch of Orks I have no use for. Paying $60 for just the Marines and rulebook is a friggin deal!

5 Termies = $50 Box Set
10 Tacticals = $35 Box Set
1 Commander = $20 Box Set
1 Dreadnought = $40 Box Set
Separate Rulebook = $50

So for $60, I'm getting $195 of models I'll use, as well as probably $100 more in Orks!

This concludes my summer purchases. One box of this and a Crusader, and I'll be set for life.

CK

**Lemartes**

Depends on the molds. The marines in BFM were not the greatest. The stealers were not half bad tho'.

**yakface**

This is no doubt a great deal, and I look forward to 5th edition from everything I've read but it occurs to me. . .

. . .people are going to buy marines no matter what and people are going to buy a boxed set no matter what just to get the mini-rulebook and because that many miniatures at that price is just too good a deal to pass up.

So why doesn't GW put not-marines into this box set, that way they still sell all these starter sets plus all the marines they already sell to everyone and their grandmother who wants more marines?

It makes sense to me.

**adamsouza**

Because Marines make the world go round ?