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The upper hull of the shadowsword may consist of 2-3 pieces.
because it is moved between those "shadowsword" pic and the "doomhammer"pic.

Front has a hatch and a heavy bolter, both identical at shadowsword and doomhammer. Also identical is the weapon mount.
The gunbarrel of the shadowsword and the doomhammer looks exchangable.

And the apoc reloaded stormlord looks like the doomhammer without the big gun but a VMB.

So i guess the upper hull will be: a basic piece,maybe from engine to front. A superstructure that can be placed at different positions.

Both SHV don't block the mount of sponsons. If the rules agree ( apoc III in april ? ) there is nothing that stops you.

Doomhammer? Pics please.

Stormsword
Stormblade
Stormlord
Shadowsword
Doomhammer
[????????????]

I'd say something with a giant Inferno Gun, like off a Warhound, but why would you mount such a gun on a tank with a fixed turret?

And doesn't the Hellhammer make the Stormsword redundant?

BYE

The difference is that the Stormsword uses a 10" template, the Hellhammer a 7"

BrookM wrote:The difference is that the Stormsword uses a 10" template, the Hellhammer a 7"

Simply saying 'Yes' would've been quicker Brook.

There's no need for one if you have the other.

BYE

Something with a really huge mortar kinda thing sticking up might be kinda cool .. like a griffon only giant

You should hold your breath for a transport BB.

BrookM wrote:Doomhammer? Pics please.

For the love of all that is holy please tell me you have pics of the others...

Anyone else think this seems like a little much for just Apocalypse?

Are we possibly seeing something for Apoc. and the new Guard book...

1hadhq wrote:

BrookM wrote:Doomhammer? Pics please.

Looks more like a Stormsword to me, but oh well!

BrookM wrote:

1hadhq wrote:

BrookM wrote:Doomhammer? Pics please.

Looks more like a Stormsword to me, but oh well!

Yeah, that looks exactly like the current FW Stormsword other than the top hull.

Only thing missing are the heavy flamers and coaxial heavy bolter.

methoderik wrote:Anyone else think this seems like a little much for just Apocalypse?

It's not too much at all. Do people even play normal games anymore?

Yeah that's a Stormsword.

BYE

I do not believe GW calls a stormsword a doomhammer


Stormsword:

Yes, I do beliee that the plastic doomhammer above would be perfect for a superheavy demonic pleague tank with giant slime cannon.


...I love my hobby

If you look carefully, the FW Stormsword has a rear superstructure while Doomhammer has a forward superstructure.

Then we've seen 2 guns:
- Volcano Cannon (VC)
- Stormsword cannon (SSC)
And the Vulcan MegaBolter (VMB) seems a certainty based on the picture already published.

Presumably, then the 6 variants are as follows:

Rear superstructure:
- Shadowsword (VC)
- Stormsword (SSC)
- ??? (VMB)

Forward superstructure (for Transport):
- Doomsword? (VC Transport)
- Doomhammer (SSC Transport)
- Stormlord (VMB Transport)

That's a full 6 variants out of the one kit.

Obviously, we lose the Stormblade PlasmaBlastGun, but oh, well. At least FW still has something to sell...

I love it how he can just make up stuff like that. It's quite a skill.

I'd love to live in DD's world, just for 5 minutes. I don't think I'd get much done... but I don't think I'd really care.

BYE

You sure mister Wang isn't family of Bagdad Bob?

The way I see it GW will crank out their own variants and crush the opinions of fans regarding the proper placement of the upper superstructure. Or as mentioned before the superstructure will be as modular as the rest of the tank and you'll be able to mount it to the front, or to the rear.

GW might be doing all three FW variants along with the Stormlord and two newly "discovered" patterns, or just upgrade the Baneblade kit itself. The latter might mean a hike in the price of the kit though, a small price to pay for such a wealth of bits.

Ok, so, here are the name of the new tanks:

Shadowsword
Banehammer
Doomhammer
Stormlord
Banesword
Stormsword

Kinda reminds me that thread where we were coming up with different Baneblade types and Abadabadoodon came up with 'Hammerblade', 'Swordhammer' and 'Bladeblade!'.

Anyway, the descriptions for these are:

Shadowsword - We all know and love this one, and we've seen it. The main part here is the superstructure that makes up the cannon's housing. As I suspected, this can be mounted forward or back,

Banehammer - The superstructure housing is mounted forward and we get a huge giant mortar. Looking forward to this one.

Doomhammer - Forward turret again, but with a smaller turret. Very similar to the Banehammer apparently.

Stormlord - Once again, forward turret and with the twin Vulcans.

Banesword - Not much detail other than a 'thicker' barrel than the Shadowsword. Unsure what this could mean. In any case, it has the superstructure housing mounted back, so it would be of comparable damage to the Shadowsword and the...

Stormsword - Which I'm assuming is just like the FW one, only crunchy.

No Stormblade, which pisses me off royally (I wanted another one, and one that was all plastic this time). The names are very stupid, but then again they weren't all that clever to begin with. Doomhammer is pretty cool in the GRIMDARK context though.

Also, apparently, three of them - I'm guessing the ones where the superstructure housing is mounted forward - transport infantry! Transport baneblades! OOOH!

And No I can't tell you who or where I heard these from. Don't ask.

BYE

I LOVE the names Doomhammer and Bladehammer... reminds me of the Dark Heresy interview in D6G when the guy must have said 'grimdark' like ten times.

I like the sound of the kit.. I think the Bane chassis lends itself much more to the gorgeous fixed-hull setups FW designed. It sounds like I can see myself ending up with like two or three of these if I pace myself... I wonder if I should start playing guard... or Apoc

No Stormblade, which pisses me off royally (I wanted another one, and one that was all plastic this time). The names are very stupid, but then again they weren't all that clever to begin with. Doomhammer is pretty cool in the GRIMDARK context though.

No giant Plasma cannon?

Of what do we base that there will be no Stormblade in the kit? Is this being based of an extensive study of the Shadowsword picture?

H.B.M.C. says he has his sources and he's not the guy who would say stuff like that just to get attention.

H.B.M.C. wrote:Ok, so, here are the name of the new tanks:

Shadowsword
Banehammer
Doomhammer
Stormlord
Banesword
Stormsword

Kinda reminds me that thread where we were coming up with different Baneblade types and Abadabadoodon came up with 'Hammerblade', 'Swordhammer' and 'Bladeblade!'.

Anyway, the descriptions for these are:

Shadowsword - We all know and love this one, and we've seen it. The main part here is the superstructure that makes up the cannon's housing. As I suspected, this can be mounted forward or back,

Banehammer - The superstructure housing is mounted forward and we get a huge giant mortar. Looking forward to this one.

Doomhammer - Forward turret again, but with a smaller turret. Very similar to the Banehammer apparently.

Stormlord - Once again, forward turret and with the twin Vulcans.

Banesword - Not much detail other than a 'thicker' barrel than the Shadowsword. Unsure what this could mean. In any case, it has the superstructure housing mounted back, so it would be of comparable damage to the Shadowsword and the...

Stormsword - Which I'm assuming is just like the FW one, only crunchy.

No Stormblade, which pisses me off royally (I wanted another one, and one that was all plastic this time). The names are very stupid, but then again they weren't all that clever to begin with. Doomhammer is pretty cool in the GRIMDARK context though.

Also, apparently, three of them - I'm guessing the ones where the superstructure housing is mounted forward - transport infantry! Transport baneblades! OOOH!

And No I can't tell you who or where I heard these from. Don't ask.

BYE

SO:
Shadowsword =
Banehammer = mortar ?
Doomhammer = unsure about main weapon but
Stormlord =
Banesword = Laser?
Stormsword =

Since the shadowsword and doomhammer have a few similarities (only gun-barrel exchanged) at their main weapon and structure,
i think we get at least: 1x volcano cannon, 1x TL vulcan megabolter, 1x siege cannon, maybe the mortar, a short barreled weapon,
and a unidentified weapon (laser?).
This leaves only the stormblade out.

Maybe i should stay on my "converting superheavies" course.


PS: we do not need sources. Statlines for weapons would be enough.

1hadhq wrote:

BrookM wrote:Doomhammer? Pics please.

I have no idea what a doomhammer is. Never heard of it. I agree that looks more like a stormsword to me. Are you guys talking about the chaos Doom blaster which GW provided a data sheet for awile ago?

http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m1181496_Chaos_Space_Marines_Datasheet_-_Doom_Blaster_of_Khorne.pdf

This tank has 4 doom mortars not 1 mortar. Nice concept with "doomhammer" I guess but I dont think we should just be pulling stuff out of thin air.

Well, either way, I somehow resisted buying a Baneblade the first time around, but now it looks as if I'll be picking up at least one, if not more!

I was going to call my own custom tank a doomhammer. I guess I'll just have to beat them to the chase and use Doomwolfhellswordcannonbladedeaththingknifefire Tank before they think of it.

What's mildly annoying is that I had just started major conversion of my Baneblade about a week ago. Now, all of that is going to be on hold until I see what the new sprues will give.

Most likely I will buy 1 or 2 of the Shadowsword kits to drive my conversions forward.