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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/13 17:13:23
Subject: WIP: scratch-built Apocalypse Demon
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Grovelin' Grot
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You guys really have me wanting to try my hand at sculpting some models now! This guy looks awesome! I can't wait to see the finished product.
I really want to play around with building something from scratch myself, I've got all kinds of crazy ideas.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/13 18:02:38
Subject: WIP: scratch-built Apocalypse Demon
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Slaanesh Chosen Marine Riding a Fiend
Sale, Manchester, England
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My blog here, here and here...
Beware the silent wolf, not all packs howl as they hunt. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/13 18:12:58
Subject: WIP: scratch-built Apocalypse Demon
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Moustache-twirling Princeps
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Your going to be a bit more specific than ? DC. I don't understand.
That is good to hear Chrisms, I hope you can start a project soon!. I would suggest finding something simple to start with, like a scratch-built gun. If you want to go fancy this hot-glue method I have been using works quite well for medium-large models with organic shapes. Get the glue sticks from your local dollar store.
If you want to work mainly with plastic I would recommend starting with some sheet-styrene (plasticard) so you can build hard shapes for weapons and vehicles. Plastic welding requires a lot of ventilation, so have a fan and a lot of open windows when you do this. Working in a garage is always the best place to do any crafts hobby.
"Note"
Here is an example of how the torso will look... well sort of. This is a prop, and after some thought I don't really think I should post links to images of real internal organs. Not that their is much online for medical research from what I have seen.
http://www.hauntedprops.com/ProductImages/aaaaaaamakeuuuoo/85022.jpg
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/13 20:27:40
Subject: WIP: scratch-built Apocalypse Demon
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Slaanesh Chosen Marine Riding a Fiend
Sale, Manchester, England
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whats that lump?!
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My blog here, here and here...
Beware the silent wolf, not all packs howl as they hunt. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/14 00:42:24
Subject: WIP: scratch-built Apocalypse Demon
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Moustache-twirling Princeps
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I believe you are referring to the shoulder plate. It may look a bit awkward now, but I have a lot of green stuff sculpting ahead of me. The shoulder plate is going to be magnetized to accept both a gun arm, and a sword/ chain... well chainsaw club to be quite honest. Eldar are about the only race I would feel comfortable giving a "real" chainsword. The first weapon I make may end up being a hybrid cannon/ body part mulcher. This would be in direct homage of "Brain-Dead" of course, and all of the other fantastic Peter Jackson splatter-fests.
Advice on weapon making materials is still needed. I can get sheet-styrene, because I can't imagine being able to make the gun I want out of sprues and wire mesh. The concept I had in mind is some sort of giant nostril... not cartoony at all though. Like a demonic missile launcher, or plasma cannon. The hybrid-gun arm will look something like a super-soaker infested by the devil. Not a Tyranid super-soaker, a demonic super-soaker that looks less like a crab, and more like road-kill.
Before I get ahead of myself with grandiose ideas of trapped souls in a bubble on the back, robotic organ harvesters, a exposed system of ravenous intestine (yes please do watch Brain-Dead, and see for yourself the wonders of this feat), a crushed rhino or dread in the BIG hand, several severed space marines still shooting as they are picked into assorted piles of "parts", spine banks that are tipped like syringes, and a system of organically grown (why right over here, in my garden of despair and unripened tomatoes) weapons of torture and dismemberment; I will need a bit of C&C to give me a bit more of a focused goal.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/14 02:55:34
Subject: Re:WIP: scratch-built Apocalypse Demon
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Moustache-twirling Princeps
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Working on weapon concept art for a few days I suppose. There is not much more I can think of doing with the model until my green-stuff arrives. And when it does, I can finally get to the easy part. Here are some pics, I'll just keep drawing and posting until someone says... "HEY!!!"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/14 03:06:59
Subject: WIP: scratch-built Apocalypse Demon
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Thunderhawk Pilot Dropping From Orbit
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One quick question :
Cant you use some clay or whatever you where using to make the demon and sculpt something onto him like "pipes" or something?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/14 03:27:41
Subject: WIP: scratch-built Apocalypse Demon
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Moustache-twirling Princeps
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I could attempt to use the Yellow-gray milliput, but would expect a pretty epic failure. The air drying clay is WAY to brittle to hold anything with integrity besides the most minute detail. The clay has become chalky, although it has served to be an extremely effective counter-weight to the rest of my model.
So in short, no I have no material that would really be strong enough to create any kind of surface detail as of now.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/14 06:44:37
Subject: WIP: scratch-built Apocalypse Demon
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Slaanesh Chosen Marine Riding a Fiend
Sale, Manchester, England
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o right i get what you mean by the "gun" arm
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My blog here, here and here...
Beware the silent wolf, not all packs howl as they hunt. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/14 07:17:09
Subject: Re:WIP: scratch-built Apocalypse Demon
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Moustache-twirling Princeps
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Update. Final gun-arm up for C&C.
Here is a description of what you see below.
The Demons arm resembles that of a rotten head of a giant horse laden with clouded eyes and a putrid scent. The nostrils of the mutant face take the place of two large cannons, firing whatever bile seems appropriate at that time. The arm also doubles as a "manufacturing plant", so to speak. When the creature emerges from hiding it immediately begins taking the pieces of it's victims into it's bowels. The small arms under the end of the arm serve to batter and harass any offending characters from the monstrous cannon and sub-digestive system. Where a fore-arm would be present a grotesque stone like face presents itself in full horror. The upper arm is where the demons victims are first ingested; if not directly through the mouth or torso that is. The "undesirable" pieces of gore are simply kept in a sac where they wait ejection with ill intent. The arm itself can form a shield to block and regenerate even the strongest blows.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/14 07:20:25
Subject: WIP: scratch-built Apocalypse Demon
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
Australia (Recently ravaged by the Hive Fleet Ginger Overlord)
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Gun? He can have a gun? Is it a soul-grinder? (look hopeful)
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After the game, pack up all your miniatures, then slap the guy next to you on the ass and say.
"Good game guys, now lets hit the showers" |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/14 07:53:02
Subject: Re:WIP: scratch-built Apocalypse Demon
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Moustache-twirling Princeps
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It will have a gun most definitely. I am not clear on Chaos fluff and specific unit sizes, so is he could count as a soul-grinder so be it says I. In fact I think the model will work out out to be about the same width, but probably much taller; this could be a good thing for a soul-grinder though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/14 08:49:56
Subject: WIP: scratch-built Apocalypse Demon
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Slaanesh Chosen Marine Riding a Fiend
Sale, Manchester, England
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If its large enough go for a banelord of khorne!
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My blog here, here and here...
Beware the silent wolf, not all packs howl as they hunt. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/15 10:56:44
Subject: WIP: scratch-built Apocalypse Demon
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Moustache-twirling Princeps
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I was hoping for some feedback on the weapon design.
Which gun looks best? The bottom one is more basic and would be a bit easier to build, but the top one is my favorite.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/15 11:34:50
Subject: WIP: scratch-built Apocalypse Demon
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
Australia (Recently ravaged by the Hive Fleet Ginger Overlord)
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I cant' really tell wchich end is which on the bottom one, so yeah! go for the top.
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Smacks wrote:
After the game, pack up all your miniatures, then slap the guy next to you on the ass and say.
"Good game guys, now lets hit the showers" |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/15 13:32:35
Subject: Re:WIP: scratch-built Apocalypse Demon
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Moustache-twirling Princeps
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I did a preliminary concept elaborating further on the gun arm. It needs a few adjustments; such as removing the tusk possibly, and making the cannon more visible and a bit more nurgly. Please take a moment to tell me what you think.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/15 13:48:19
Subject: Re:WIP: scratch-built Apocalypse Demon
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Lady of the Lake
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That looks really cool
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/15 14:16:17
Subject: WIP: scratch-built Apocalypse Demon
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Thunderhawk Pilot Dropping From Orbit
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I like all the guns , its up to you really... besides , its supposed to make YOU happy , then others...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/15 14:29:06
Subject: WIP: scratch-built Apocalypse Demon
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Moustache-twirling Princeps
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Thank you. I am trying to get the community involved so the model can evolve so to speak. More than anything I am reviewing my design process, just to keep the old-brain cog spinning. Input, whether it is positive or negative (constructive of course) is extremely valuable to me.
Little things in the picture, mainly the gun and tusk are what I would like a bit of feedback on. Possibly a nurgle flamer barrel style? Like it is made from bone and rotten flesh. Should it have a crest along the "forehead"?
Check this model out though, I like it a lot. Not that similar to what I am doing, but inspirational nonetheless. The head is very well done.
http://www.coolminiornot.com/216977
Combine this with the last picture and you will have something along the lines of my project... just add more grossness.
http://www.coolminiornot.com/215420
Nice "guts" sculpting
http://www.coolminiornot.com/223534
Here is the grossness=
Excellent... yes... indeed it is excellent
http://www.coolminiornot.com/215238
http://www.coolminiornot.com/178025
http://www.coolminiornot.com/178025
http://www.coolminiornot.com/150286
http://www.coolminiornot.com/199819
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/15 16:28:00
Subject: Re:WIP: scratch-built Apocalypse Demon
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Moustache-twirling Princeps
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Update. Added the first layer for the magnet sockets.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/16 02:22:05
Subject: Re:WIP: scratch-built Apocalypse Demon
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Waaagh! Warbiker
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Am back from my festival and gotta say ive missed out on alot
Ive just browsed along and your concept sketches are brilliant
Its all coming together and am very eager to see it all finished up
Oh and a late happy birthday
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/16 02:31:46
Subject: Re:WIP: scratch-built Apocalypse Demon
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Moustache-twirling Princeps
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/16 05:46:11
Subject: Re:WIP: scratch-built Apocalypse Demon
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Moustache-twirling Princeps
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My friend has added definition to the drawing he was working on. This is part 2 of 3 steps, re-scanning and coloring comes next.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/16 09:59:51
Subject: WIP: scratch-built Apocalypse Demon
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
Australia (Recently ravaged by the Hive Fleet Ginger Overlord)
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That guy on the head must be a LITTLE worried.
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Smacks wrote:
After the game, pack up all your miniatures, then slap the guy next to you on the ass and say.
"Good game guys, now lets hit the showers" |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/16 10:06:31
Subject: WIP: scratch-built Apocalypse Demon
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Moustache-twirling Princeps
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The commissar sure isn't!!!
"YOU... HEY YOU, get over here so I can heet you with my sword."
...OK... One minute, I need to screw my brain back in. Has anyone ever put the commissar straddling the a tanks gun like a bayonet? OMFG... I have to make that.
"No metal is tougher than the commissar, he is made of PURE bad-ass. Pure bad-ass happens to be more resilient than even wraithbone, and some commissar enjoy making a "point" of this by performing bayonet duty; although he rarely gives up this opportunity many guardsmen have been taught a lesson by showing the commissar what they are "made" of."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/16 17:00:06
Subject: WIP: scratch-built Apocalypse Demon
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Waaagh! Warbiker
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I was at the download festival, still getting rid of the sunburnt skin >.<
That artwork is very creepy, all spooky looking . . . likes it very much
Gotta love the commisar way of life
"You will hold the line, no questions asked"
"ITS CHEWING MY NECK!!!!!!"
"THEN CHEW BACK HARDER YOU WORM"
-executes guardsmen and walks away-
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/17 00:22:44
Subject: WIP: scratch-built Apocalypse Demon
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Moustache-twirling Princeps
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Looks like a pretty fun festival. Sun...in... England?
Apparently my green stuff is not at the post office, which is pretty irritating. BUT... my phone company gave my a free months service after I brought the FCC into the equation after a long, and extremely drawn out problem. Hey, not a bad trade... I want my green stuff.  . Apparently a single letter is more than big enough or something to be simply put in my mailbox... so weird.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/18 18:22:41
Subject: Re:WIP: scratch-built Apocalypse Demon
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Moustache-twirling Princeps
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The concept drawing my friend did is finished, I think it came out really well.
My green stuff has not arrived yet for some reason. Hopefully I will get it tomorrow, or I am going to have to give this company a big thumbs down; the delivery is already 2 days late.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/18 20:16:29
Subject: WIP: scratch-built Apocalypse Demon
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Waaagh! Warbiker
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I notice you havnt really scultped much on the giant claw arm
Looks pretty bitchin' in concept, how are you going to go about doing it?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/18 20:32:42
Subject: WIP: scratch-built Apocalypse Demon
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Moustache-twirling Princeps
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I am going to start by making a simple chainsaw arm like in the drawing my friend did. At some point I will make a second arm using the mouth gun stomach thing design, but I want to finish the model before making any other fancy pieces, especially now that I am getting behind on my original schedule.
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