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Fateweaver wrote:At 10 yards+ the penetration is only around 5", not enough to be considered a good defensive load but I figure if I need to ever draw on someone outside my house I'd be within 2-3 yards so the pattern isn't really that bad, it's about 2" between pellets at 10 yards, haven't tried it closer.

I have .45 hollows in my house I load in there at night instead just in case as I see myself being further away from a intruder than someone trying to steal my wallet or carjack me.

I got a good lead on a .44 Taurus for really cheap, thinking of using that for home defense.

I love the Taurus guns. Nothing but good things I hear about them and not even as close to pricy as a Kimber. A buddy of mine spent $2k on a custom engraved Kimber .45. Eek.

Yea but a Kimber is dead sexy! I hate stripping 1911 frames though. At least it beats RUger .22 pistols which require a mallet (WTF!).

JEB_Stuart wrote:I am just gonna stick with old faithful....

Yeah but every pull of the trigger is about $15 dollars a second or $900 dollars a minute!!! Nice idea but impractical if your not a bloated, decadent government.

I'm thinking if zombies attack, especially a zombie apocalypse I wouldn't think it'd be much issue to "borrow" the ammo needed for a mini.

Noble713 wrote:

Fifty wrote: If he had walked up to you with his gang to rob you, and you pulled a weapon him, he and his friends would have killed you.

If you pull a handgun and immediately begin engaging targets while moving towards cover, and somehow *still* end up getting killed/maimed.....you're doing it wrong.

I was going to make some other comments but I got distracted at EncylopediaDramatica and forgot everything.

That sort of assumes that most people know how to "do it right". I kind of doubt that.

It also assumes that a desirable to way to deal with a group of potentially unpleasant people moving towards you is to start shooting first and ask questions later.

The earlier implication was that having a gun would prevent them targetting you in the first place. Your reaction seems to be to start shooting anyone who in a group that is approaching you that looks like they might, just might, be about to rob you.

If you feel I am being overly dramatic, so be it, but I work in an Inner City school, with known gang members, others who have committed violent crimes and others who will go on to commit violent crimes unless someone can stop them. I feel entitled to have strong opinions about this.

Fifty wrote:

If you feel I am being overly dramatic, so be it, but I work in an Inner City school, with known gang members, others who have committed violent crimes and others who will go on to commit violent crimes unless someone can stop them. I feel entitled to have strong opinions about this.

What exactly is your point?


OT but gang bangers can't shoot squat.

GoFenris wrote:

JEB_Stuart wrote:I am just gonna stick with old faithful....

Yeah but every pull of the trigger is about $15 dollars a second or $900 dollars a minute!!! Nice idea but impractical if your not a bloated, decadent government.

Meh, once the zombie apocalypse comes, money doesn't matter anymore. Soooo I can spend all I want! Given the possibility of this plan failing, I am running as fast as I can to a Bass Pro Shop, or a Cabella's. Let us see how this supposed zombie hoard fares then!

Fair points regarding the minigun and perhaps I was WAY to much in the "reality" dimension but even still, 40,000 rounds to kill a few hundred zombies is just lousy math. What about the other 5.85 billion?

Of course it would be fun though, hee hee

You have to make a trade off for the increased demon killing ability.

I think we all need guns to protect ourselves from Glenn Beck... crazy donkey-puncher... YOU ABUSER OF FROGS!!! , man... I feel bad for that frog though.




TBH, I didn't even see the frog go into the water... but as the saying goes, when you need to bring your metaphors to life... and start boiling frogs... it is safe to say that your point is quite... tasteless. Who said hey... let's boil some damn frogs, that will show them how serious this really is. Man... the frogmanity.

Wrexasaur wrote:I think we all need guns to protect ourselves from Glenn Beck... crazy donkey-puncher...

No need to get sexual Wrex...

GoFenris wrote:Fair points regarding the minigun and perhaps I was WAY to much in the "reality" dimension but even still, 40,000 rounds to kill a few hundred zombies is just lousy math. What about the other 5.85 billion?

Of course it would be fun though, hee hee

Flame thrower. Its much cheaper, easier to find fuel for, and nothing says loving like WOOSH!!!
Plus flames have been proven to work on everything: zombies, vampires, low level demons, ghouls, King Kong, even ALIEN and the Thing.

Flame throwers: for people who really want to set you on fire, but are too lazy to walk over to do it.

But in the zombie survival guide, all a flamethrower does is create a zombie that is on fire and wants to eat your brains, I would prefer a zombie that is not on fire and wants to eat my brains. Sure it will eventually burn away the zombie, but if he's close enough you're fethed. Also, big back pack that is heavy so you can't run.

@The fellow who asks why I want a bayonet:
I just do, my dad has an S.K.S with a bayonet so I see it only natural to also own a bayonet, its also a bargain seeing as though the local gunshop had them for $125 and no accessories included.

Its like going to an auto dealer and looking at two cars. Car A is 15,000 and has power windows, Car B is 30,000 and has manual windows. Power windows are unnecessary, but good to have, just like bayonets.

Why do I want a rifle, because its an older Russian Rifle, Model 1891/30 and was issued to russian infantry during WW2. The best part is, the russian government decided to take all of the old ones and restore them just in case WW3 broke out, so its in nice condition.

For Frazz and other gun lovers I post a neat little Surplus Supplier website.
Guns Here

halonachos wrote:But in the zombie survival guide, all a flamethrower does is create a zombie that is on fire and wants to eat your brains, I would prefer a zombie that is not on fire and wants to eat my brains. Sure it will eventually burn away the zombie, but if he's close enough you're fethed. Also, big back pack that is heavy so you can't run.

@The fellow who asks why I want a bayonet:
I just do, my dad has an S.K.S with a bayonet so I see it only natural to also own a bayonet, its also a bargain seeing as though the local gunshop had them for $125 and no accessories included.

Its like going to an auto dealer and looking at two cars. Car A is 15,000 and has power windows, Car B is 30,000 and has manual windows. Power windows are unnecessary, but good to have, just like bayonets.

Why do I want a rifle, because its an older Russian Rifle, Model 1891/30 and was issued to russian infantry during WW2. The best part is, the russian government decided to take all of the old ones and restore them just in case WW3 broke out, so its in nice condition.

For Frazz and other gun lovers I post a neat little Surplus Supplier website.
Guns Here

I wipe my butt with the Zombie survival guide. Hollywood has foreseen the disease, and proclaimed the flamer is da cure.

Nothing beats the ex for killing zombies. If a zombie apoc ever comes I'll find her and tie her to me to keep zombies at bay. Trust me when I say not even the living dead would want to be anywhere near her.

Wrexasaur wrote:I think we all need guns to protect ourselves from Glenn Beck... crazy donkey-puncher... YOU ABUSER OF FROGS!!! , man... I feel bad for that frog though.




TBH, I didn't even see the frog go into the water... but as the saying goes, when you need to bring your metaphors to life... and start boiling frogs... it is safe to say that your point is quite... tasteless. Who said hey... let's boil some damn frogs, that will show them how serious this really is. Man... the frogmanity.

Okay... now that I am done laughing... here is the whole plan revealed. Tricky Glenn... very tricky .




Shut the piehole indeed... shut it nice and good. Wait... is that cranberry? What kind of pie is a cranberry pie... this is terrible... why am I eating this...