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Hmm....Trygon swarm? Or harpies and gargoyles. But those are just fluffy things. Zoanthropes are winz in any army

I'm going to run a Trygon and a Trygon Prime. As well as a squad of Zoey's and a brood of Carnifex 2 of them geared for CC and breaking down bastion walls.

Good idea. I got some pictures up. Take a look!
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/299455.page

Oh,and can you PM me when you send out?I know how busy you are,so I won't pester you about it.

NOOOOO

i find that fexes are a points sink

They are,compared to tyrants,which are 15 points cheaper.

Samus_aran115 wrote:They are,compared to tyrants,which are 15 points cheaper.

and yet the tyrant is much more affective. i say unless you want to convert the fex to a tyrant then scrap it

That's what I'm saying,lol.

Why bother with the carnifex anymore? At one point,it served several positions (like a shooty fex,wtf) and was a mainstay. Now that we have trygons and tervigons and biovores and hive tyrants,why bother with it?

The 9 STR is nice,but that's it. The trygon has 6 wounds,which makes it wayyy better.

All of this stuff is cool. Love the Zoan and Trygon!

Thanks warboss!

The whole point of the brood of Carnifexes is to break down the walls of the fortress and on the way there they will still draw fire away from the more squishy units out there. The attacks they will give me on the walls of the bastion will free up the more "useful" units to work of the other defenses. All these guys are for is to make openings in the walls for my little ones to swarm through.

Plus theres a lot of people who remember carnifexes of old editions. I still see people wanting to take carnifexes out first before other stuff. If anything they are good shock units to draw fire from softer elements of your swarm.

EXACTLY Lexx! I'm really banking on them drawing alot of fire and I think they will do just that.

I lvoe your 'Nids, and do the bike thing.

Well, carnifex's in spods would actually be useful in planetstrike.. scatter role and defenders' terrain setup willing. Trygon prime would be a barrel of fun, as always, on the charge (with AG) would need 7 on 2d6 to glance, 8 to pen.

Genestealers would be good, use them to crack open bastions in desperate situations or, more preferably, eat up the squishy stuff once it's out of the hard stuff!

Pyrovores could flame through fire ports, and roast some nice light infantry..

Zoe's might not be so good.. BUT THE DOOM.. against "immobile mech", should be a blast.

Tyrant can make stuff WS1/BS1 to help out the rest of your force.. and he can stomp stuff.

Hive guard might be good for any tanks hiding or coming on from reserve.

Spam gaunts with a walking on/DS Tervigon.

Basically,

Trygon(prime?)

Carnifex in spods or just walking on or just DSing normally

Tyrant

Doom

Tervigon

Stealers

Hive guard


I'm no expert, but..

As for defense? you'd stick your bastions on the board edge, block off reserves access points near your bastions with impassible terrain and walk on fex's and MC's from behind your fortress.. Basically the Gauntlet from the Planetstrike WD I believe..

It'd be helpful if you actually drew up a list of what you have/army list you were considering.


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Ah - missed a page! Eh, above is for planetstrike anyways..

@ comisarmilo- I am def doing the bike/demon hybrids once my nids are done... well at least 1500 points worth anyway.

Oh Darkvoid, you always pop in with usefull info. I swear you read the thread and wait for the oppertunity!

I will def have the doom in there as well as a trygon AND a trygon prime. I think I'm going to skip on the Tervigon for the attacking portion of the fighting. If I was on the defensive side I would use it but mainly I want to split the tough outer layers with MC's so that everything else can eat up the gooey screaming center!


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I sadly still have no pyro/biovores and I have a bunch of stealers and a broodlord sitting around. I need to get a few more hive guards. Any suggestions on how i should outfit my tyrant for the game?


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OOOHHH!! I got my wings in today for either a Harpy I will be making or maybe for my tyrant... I think magnets are in order! I have those too btw. The only thing I am not looking forward to is the actual painting of all of these bad bugs. It's not the amount of painting I have to do so much as the quality I will be able to manage. I painted alot in the past but it's been WAAAYY too long since I picked up a brush and I am afraid they will look like... well poo.

Tyrant, hands down. Harpie mepic phailzzz.

Gives him the ability to DS, no? Then assault bastions, no? Increased manoeverability in defense will be fun for keeping synapse.

More later.

Anyone else have some thoughts as to how to kit the tyrant out?

I like him with a HVC,but that's just me. I like a LOT of shooting in my Tyranids.

It's a personal flaw,I know.
I take warriors with VCs, carnifexes with HVCs and scything talons and a hive tyrant with HVC,lashwhip and bonesword. So sue me.

I'm actually working on a few Tyrants for future use too. One of wich is going to be a flyrant with a few sets of twin linked something or other on him and some beastly wings. I'm also going to attempt to make some taloned feet similar to (but not nearly as good as) insaniak's feet on the flyrant he was working on.

Since my wings came in I decided to get to work making a flyrant. Here is a pic of the wings after they have been trimmed down to fit the Tyrant body a bit better and 4 of the magnets that will be used to change out the weapon sets. I will also be working on the feet and the TL weapons and the one handed heavy weapons to work with the loss of the 2 arm sockets to the wings! More to come...

Nice tyrant wings. For my tyrant I was initially going for the 1 x Talons and Heavy venom cannon. But I'm going for the Bone-sword and lash whip combo and a set of talons. Also giving him old adversary and sticking him in the center of my main forces so everyone nearby will gain preferred enemy special rule. With my shock troop melee carnifex on one flank and the rest of my 1k army being Hormgaunts and genestealers with Broodlord and warriors. Had a lot of fun swamping a 1k Imperial guard force last month with that list. The Fex took a beating but he survived with 1 wound. Whilst the tyrant surged up the center with the gaunts. Fun times.

Lexx wrote:Nice tyrant wings. For my tyrant I was initially going for the 1 x Talons and Heavy venom cannon. But I'm going for the Bone-sword and lash whip combo and a set of talons. Also giving him old adversary and sticking him in the center of my main forces so everyone nearby will gain preferred enemy special rule. With my shock troop melee carnifex on one flank and the rest of my 1k army being Hormgaunts and genestealers with Broodlord and warriors. Had a lot of fun swamping a 1k Imperial guard force last month with that list. The Fex took a beating but he survived with 1 wound. Whilst the tyrant surged up the center with the gaunts. Fun times.

Why take talons if you had old adversary? Take the brainleech wotsits.

Ah this is a good point! Thanks. Will be using that next time.

For tyrant scratch old adversary, use hive commander with outflanking tervigon!

First person to make a 1500 pt list consisting of at least one trygon and one trygon prime and not bio or pyrovores wins 10 points!

HQ-Tyrant with wings,LW and BS and talons
Elites- none
Troops-3 warriors w/ talons and a venom cannon
20 Hormaguants,toxin sacs
20 hormaguants,toxin sacs
10 genestealers, claws,1 broodlord
3 warriors with talons and some sort of crappy shooter
Fast-none
Heavy Support- Trygon prime
Trygon
Carnifex with HVC and talons

1 Hive Tyrant @ 220 pts (Hive Commander; Heavy Venom Cannon; Paroxysm; The Horror)
1 Tyrant Guard @ 60 pts

1 The Doom of Malan'tai @ 130 pts (Mycetic Spore)
1 Mycetic Spore

2 Zoanthrope Brood @ 160 pts (Mycetic Spore)
1 Mycetic Spore

10 Termagant Brood @ 50 pts

10 Termagant Brood @ 50 pts

1 Tervigon @ 185 pts (Toxin Sacs; Catalyst)

1 Tervigon @ 185 pts (Toxin Sacs; Catalyst)

1 Trygon @ 210 pts (Adrenal Glands)

1 Trygon Prime @ 250 pts (Adrenal Glands)


1500!


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DS the trygons and leave the tervigons in reserve. Pop one terv out from hole and outflank the other with +1 to reserves


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and pop the spores out with those too

You can't bring spods out of the hole, and The Horror is not worth it - anything with a low enough LD to have a decent chance of being affected probably won't be trying to assault it anyway.. only exception I can think of is nobs or nob bikers. Take Old Adversary instead - much more awesomesausage better.
Since he wants a flyrant, drop the Tyrant guard and give the Tyrant wings. Just fly in and out of cover.

IMO above list should also drop the broodlord. Pretty crappy model, it's metal, and 60pts is just silly for what it does. Other than that, the above is a pretty good list.


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Oh and Tony, can we have a pic(s) of your entire nid force so far? That'd be nice.

Darkvoidof40k wrote:You can't bring spods out of the hole, and The Horror is not worth it - anything with a low enough LD to have a decent chance of being affected probably won't be trying to assault it anyway.. only exception I can think of is nobs or nob bikers. Take Old Adversary instead - much more awesomesausage better.
Since he wants a flyrant, drop the Tyrant guard and give the Tyrant wings. Just fly in and out of cover.

IMO above list should also drop the broodlord. Pretty crappy model, it's metal, and 60pts is just silly for what it does. Other than that, the above is a pretty good list.


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Oh and Tony, can we have a pic(s) of your entire nid force so far? That'd be nice.

which list mine? horror is actually pretty good as is paraoxy one and they are free, yeah addd the wings take our the cannon and guard. but ive used this list in vassal before and it works so well., with spores and trygons coming in on a 3+ on turn too, win!

Two*

Yeah, Paroxism is awesome. Leech essence is the only other one I would ever take. Very much a power you'd use only if it was a specific situation, for instance, the Tyrant is on 1 wound. Terminator squad 18" shooting you? Fly up, strip wounds for yourself and assault. Terminators about to assault? Above.

Nob bikers? (and so on..)

I will gladly give a few pics of the entire force once they are all primed at least. I will be heading over to my parents on Sunday and they have a garage that I can prime in since the weather here lately has been entirely to rainey and windy to accomplish anything. I attempted to prime yesterday and the wind blew it away before it even hit the trygon so i called it a fail...


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Keep in mind that my heart isn't set on a flyrant, its just one of my many projects I'm working on.


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I'm going to run one zoey brood and a brood of hive guard also. I think I might also avoid the tervigons for this game just because I have NOTHING to use for a proxy.