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The Crippler wrote:

Kroothawk wrote:
My personal hopes are for new non-monkey gutter runners. We need them!

I have no idea what my Skaven army would USE their gutter runners for (monkeys or not) in the new edition. Hard to imagine something that they could do that a block of slaves couldn't do better.

Warmachine hunt and rear charges? Slaves can't deep strike.

What? Am I missing a rule here? I don't know how a block of Gutter Runners is supposed to hunt a warmachine in any fashion that's cheaper then a block of slaves who cost a quarter as many points.

Kid_Kyoto wrote:From Skull pass to Blood Island...

GW is really pumping the depths of their creativity here. I wonder what 9th edition will be? Spike Field? Grimdark Hills?

How about Skidmark Valley?

Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:

Kid_Kyoto wrote:From Skull pass to Blood Island...

GW is really pumping the depths of their creativity here. I wonder what 9th edition will be? Spike Field? Grimdark Hills?

How about Skidmark Valley?

the browned fields maybe where armies are horribly outnumbered and the army with the fewest points has a general with brown pants.

The Crippler wrote:What? Am I missing a rule here? I don't know how a block of Gutter Runners is supposed to hunt a warmachine in any fashion that's cheaper then a block of slaves who cost a quarter as many points.

minimum unit of 5 GR for 60 points can take out two - three measly crewmen easily. especially when they scout or use thier subterranian assault.

Meh, tunnelling teams are a) not skirmishers in the 'normal' sense and b) not good at all in the new book.

The Crippler wrote:Meh, tunnelling teams are a) not skirmishers in the 'normal' sense and b) not good at all in the new book.

state your reasoning to support this. They can still take out war machines which can save your blocks from annihilation by cannon fire.

Whatever the rules, I want ninjas in my Eshin army

Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:

Kid_Kyoto wrote:From Skull pass to Blood Island...

GW is really pumping the depths of their creativity here. I wonder what 9th edition will be? Spike Field? Grimdark Hills?

How about Skidmark Valley?

They did that one arleady, remember Gorkamorka? That was "The Skid" full of muscly, toothy fungus monsters that drop trou' in a giant cesspool of filth that they harvest their food from. GW has quite the imagination, indeed!

Dagnabbit!
Ninja'd by GW yonks ago! DOH!

It's definitely high elves for one of them because in one of the pictures you do see a High Elf lord on a gryphon overlooking a giant host of Elf regiments and I don't recall seeing that model in the elf lineup...

Pics or it didn't happen.

Well whatever is in the box I will be using one of the armies . . . I need a new army as Ogres suck =p

And starter boxes are just brilliant value for money =p

Oshova

Kurgash wrote:It's definitely high elves for one of them because in one of the pictures you do see a High Elf lord on a gryphon overlooking a giant host of Elf regiments and I don't recall seeing that model in the elf lineup...

Do you mean the Lord on a Giant Eagle (looks like conversion of WE eagle) or this one, as both are seen in the new rulebook, overlooking a giant HE host:



This is a very old model, before anyone asks.

ghosty wrote:Pics or it didn't happen.

ninja'd

yeah kroothawk that is the one. well then I'm stumped.

That very old guy there...

I had him in his orignal packaging, with the rules on the back for him, and all his equipment. It even came with an apology that the equipment printed on the box was not the stuff he was supposed to have, and had a piece of paper with the proper equipment printed.

Alas, at 10 years old, such coveted treasures lead to getting ruined, and i lost a great many models this way. Only real survivors from this age was nagash (Love him) the old metal zombie dragon (Love him) and that's it. Orion was used to make a daemon prince, a conversion i greatly regret, and the griffon....oh why did i do it?

The griffon's hands were used in said daemon prince conversion, the rider was lost, and the griffon itself, due to having a really bad cast, had massive gaps and needed to be filled in with GS. I lost him as far as i know.

Such a shame.

but back on topic, i don't particularly like the sound of this. Skaven im decidedly 'meh' about, as i disliked their new miniatures, and high elves...well, i dont like them. They're too generic fantasy elves for my tastes.

Now if they released a starter set with beastmen in...

Coincidently, i wonder if the enxt 40k edition will have space marines in the box?

/random ponderings over.

Yeah I might well have been tempted too if the Beastmen were in the box. Hey Ho at least this way there won't be another pile of unassembled plastic bits in the house.

Taking a look at the rulebook, all the Skaven/High Elf pics featured only the original studio HE army.

So from what we know will we actually have a plastic lord on griphon, plastic Swordmasters AND plastic hell pit? Man now I know how my friend felt about the 5th edition black reach set full of win and I get to use both sides! Anyone know about the price, will it be like black reach when it was first released?

Ill be very sad if this is over 100 dollars.

Luthon1234 wrote:So from what we know will we actually have a plastic lord on griphon, plastic Swordmasters AND plastic hell pit? Man now I know how my friend felt about the 5th edition black reach set full of win and I get to use both sides! Anyone know about the price, will it be like black reach when it was first released?

Ill be very sad if this is over 100 dollars.

Figure it's the same price as Black Reach is for 40k. 75 is the ballpark here.

I like HE and skaven. My only fear is if I get the box it will dilute my miniature time even more and I'll never get my beastmen done.

Kroothawk wrote:

This is a very old model, before anyone asks.

You know, I love the high elves, but that's always been a ridiculous mini. If I was a griffin and some poncy git tried to strap an upholstered throne to my back that was twice as tall as he was (not counting his enormous winged hat), I'd claw his eyes out.

Dont insult that throne, it has a bow and quiver attached to the back.


The tail goes on that way round?!

you can do either. I've seen both ways.

Brother SRM wrote:

Luthon1234 wrote:So from what we know will we actually have a plastic lord on griphon, plastic Swordmasters AND plastic hell pit? Man now I know how my friend felt about the 5th edition black reach set full of win and I get to use both sides! Anyone know about the price, will it be like black reach when it was first released?

Ill be very sad if this is over 100 dollars.

Figure it's the same price as Black Reach is for 40k. 75 is the ballpark here.

BroSRM, that would make sense; however with the new basic rule book for Fantasy costing 75 fething dollars, I would set my price point for the starter a bit higher myself. Just a thought.

I'm really looking forward to the boxed set. I've always been a fan of the Skaven and while I've always balked at High Elves, I can see the appeal. I think they are good choices for the starter set because Skaven aren't a generic fantasy race. They are a very Warhammer specific race with an element of silliness as well as dastardly evilness. It also keeps the idea of a horde army vs an elite army. I'm glad to see a new gryphon in the box as those older mounts are iconic of old school Warhammer. I'm looking forward to new rat ogres too as I hate the current plastic ones, I'm sticking with my metal ones. Skaven war machines also help with learning how templates work. So yes, I can see why these two armies were picked lots of infantry, warmachines, cavalry, monsters, magic and independent characters.

I'll be interested to see what other bits come in the box for templates etc. While it would be cool to have the highly detailed ones that are coming out in July I'd prefer something a bit more plain to begin with so there's no confusion.

OH NO! The fish people that were rumoured years ago are coming! Why can't it be NIPPON!? Or is it?

What are you talking about?

Sorry but Pisceans just sound silly
please no hammerheads and flying jellyfish

Leave them in the gaming systems that already have them. Even with my schoolboy sense of humour, "You've got crabs! tee hee!" will wear a bit thin.

Luthon1234 wrote:So from what we know will we actually have a plastic lord on griphon, plastic Swordmasters AND plastic hell pit?

Certainly no hellpit abomination in the starter. Only 2 Rat Ogres, one warpfire thrower, one mortar and clan rats confirmed (heroes and slaves also likely, BramGaunt said globardiers as well).
Hellpit abomination will come later.

eugh.

Definitely not buying this one. Unless you know, they can make half decant skaven, or make high elves have any flavour.

Kroothawk wrote:

Luthon1234 wrote:So from what we know will we actually have a plastic lord on griphon, plastic Swordmasters AND plastic hell pit?

Certainly no hellpit abomination in the starter. Only 2 Rat Ogres, one warpfire thrower, one mortar and clan rats confirmed (heroes and slaves also likely, BramGaunt said globardiers as well).
Hellpit abomination will come later.

my mistake I thought I saw a rumor that it was in.