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I hate chaos dreads as much as anyone I use em as bait most of the time. I think all Deamon Possessed vehicles should have the Insane stipulation insteed of dreads but thats another story. I dont have a defiler but a brass scorpion and it rocks, I mix it with a vindicator and 2 predators as well as 3 obliterators and it works well. Its all about tactics and were you place them on the field.

well that sounds like its used only in Apoc games. but it sure would be nice if we could use Brass Scorpions in standerd games.......